Unaware of separate ticketing baggage policy, I paid the price. Don’t like it!
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Another example of how AA doesn't care
Recently flew AA 108/109 LAX-LHR in first class. Was originally going to be a London trip. At the last minute due to great snow conditions in Europe, I added a BA flight to GVA. The records were NOT bundled. At Flagship check-in, I was told that because I had two separate PNR's they would not check my bags to my final destination. I asked why, then after nobody gave me an answer, I asked how they could not check my bags. I played the Ex Plat, FC paying customer card all to no avail. Of course, we were late to LHR and I had to scramble from T3-T5 and missed my flight due to a short connection. I did calculate that had my luggage been tagged to GVA, I would have made my flight. AA did not care!.
I think that is poor customer service. I wrote to AA customer care and four emails back and forth and all I am able to get out of AA is we value you. Thanks for your business when what I wanted was my two expiring SWU's being credited to my account for 2019. I think that is fair compensation. I earned them and I just didn't have to use them. I"m not asking for money or miles. I'm about to post these on other social media outlets. Does anyone have any other suggestions please?
thank you in advance.
I think that is poor customer service. I wrote to AA customer care and four emails back and forth and all I am able to get out of AA is we value you. Thanks for your business when what I wanted was my two expiring SWU's being credited to my account for 2019. I think that is fair compensation. I earned them and I just didn't have to use them. I"m not asking for money or miles. I'm about to post these on other social media outlets. Does anyone have any other suggestions please?
thank you in advance.
Last edited by JDiver; Jan 17, 2019 at 3:31 pm Reason: Restore original post title
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TLDR: AA follows its published policy, customer expects "compensation" in return.
AA's policy to not through check bags on separate tickets has been well published here and elsewhere for some time. Yes, it is a customer unfriendly policy. No, it is not a customer service failure when AA follows it's own published policy. While an agent might be willing to go around the policy it is unreasonable to expect that they should. It is absurd to expect compensation for them following their policy.
And OP, you did not have a "connection". You had two separate tickets.
AA's policy to not through check bags on separate tickets has been well published here and elsewhere for some time. Yes, it is a customer unfriendly policy. No, it is not a customer service failure when AA follows it's own published policy. While an agent might be willing to go around the policy it is unreasonable to expect that they should. It is absurd to expect compensation for them following their policy.
And OP, you did not have a "connection". You had two separate tickets.
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I hate the policy as much as anyone, but acting like AA somehow hurt you by following a rule thats been in place for a while (a year and something)....
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Ironically, since your next flight was on BA and you missed the connection, AA WILL protect you at their expense on another flight to GVA. Makes no sense that they will do that, but not check bags through, but what do I know.
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Recently flew AA 108/109 LAX-LHR in first class. Was originally going to be a London trip. At the last minute due to great snow conditions in Europe, I added a BA flight to GVA. The records were NOT bundled. At Flagship check-in, I was told that because I had two separate PNR's they would not check my bags to my final destination. I asked why, then after nobody gave me an answer, I asked how they could not check my bags. I played the Ex Plat, FC paying customer card all to no avail. Of course, we were late to LHR and I had to scramble from T3-T5 and missed my flight due to a short connection. I did calculate that had my luggage been tagged to GVA, I would have made my flight. AA did not care!.
I think that is poor customer service. I wrote to AA customer care and four emails back and forth and all I am able to get out of AA is we value you. Thanks for your business when what I wanted was my two expiring SWU's being credited to my account for 2019. I think that is fair compensation. I earned them and I just didn't have to use them. I"m not asking for money or miles. I'm about to post these on other social media outlets. Does anyone have any other suggestions please?
thank you in advance.
I think that is poor customer service. I wrote to AA customer care and four emails back and forth and all I am able to get out of AA is we value you. Thanks for your business when what I wanted was my two expiring SWU's being credited to my account for 2019. I think that is fair compensation. I earned them and I just didn't have to use them. I"m not asking for money or miles. I'm about to post these on other social media outlets. Does anyone have any other suggestions please?
thank you in advance.
I’m sorry you created such a plight for yourself, but AA will not give you anything, much less two SWU. It’s unfortunately all on you; AA merely did what it said it would do over two years ago.
My suggestion, since you’re asking for it, is to perform some due diligence. And complain to AA about their customer unfriendly policy, but avoid embarrassing yourself on other social media.
Last edited by JDiver; Jan 17, 2019 at 3:32 pm
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Recently flew AA 108/109 LAX-LHR in first class. Was originally going to be a London trip. At the last minute due to great snow conditions in Europe, I added a BA flight to GVA. The records were NOT bundled.
At Flagship check-in, I was told that because I had two separate PNR's they would not check my bags to my final destination. I asked why, then after nobody gave me an answer, I asked how they could not check my bags.
I played the Ex Plat, FC paying customer card all to no avail.
Of course, we were late to LHR and I had to scramble from T3-T5 and missed my flight due to a short connection.
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Does anyone have any other suggestions please?.
At Flagship check-in, I was told that because I had two separate PNR's they would not check my bags to my final destination. I asked why, then after nobody gave me an answer, I asked how they could not check my bags.
I played the Ex Plat, FC paying customer card all to no avail.
Of course, we were late to LHR and I had to scramble from T3-T5 and missed my flight due to a short connection.
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Does anyone have any other suggestions please?.
From Sept 2016 (no baggage interning on separate tickets)---->https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...es-2016-a.html
Suggestions
- Read FT threads
- Read the ticket t&c's
- Read AA's policys
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I know everyone on here wants to flame the OP, but I tend to agree with the OP that the policy sucks. I'm also of the mindset that SWU's shouldn't expire, but then again, I guess there's a reason Doug Parker is running AA and I'm not.
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No-one in this thread so far has said anything positive about the policy itself.
Nonetheless it is on the customer to understand the limitations of the product he/she is purchasing. Asking for compensation because you didn't know a policy existed (as the OP is asking) is absurd.
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I think the policy sucks too. That's different from expecting compensation for a policy you dont happen to like.
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Most people (all?) agree the policy is not good, but we on FT do not make airline policy's.
Many OW airlines have this policy, with some variations.
CX had the no interlining bags on separate PNR for a while, but then reversed it. ^
OW forum master thread-->Bag interlining issues and OW policy changes (Combined threads)
Many OW airlines have this policy, with some variations.
CX had the no interlining bags on separate PNR for a while, but then reversed it. ^
OW forum master thread-->Bag interlining issues and OW policy changes (Combined threads)
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Doug Parker wasn’t at the helm, and he hasn’t reset SWU longevity to the original time period.
He was at the helm when oneworld put this awful policy in place, he endorsed it and it’s perfectly legitimate to complain about this policy. Some oneworld airlines in fact rescinded it.
But being unaware of policy and terms and conditions in a world where airlines are in control and can establish all kinds of self-serving policies and impose one-sided contracts of adhesion on their customers, that’s on us, IMO. Drive defensively, fly defensively, travel defensively.
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Recently flew AA 108/109 LAX-LHR in first class. Was originally going to be a London trip. At the last minute due to great snow conditions in Europe, I added a BA flight to GVA. The records were NOT bundled. At Flagship check-in, I was told that because I had two separate PNR's they would not check my bags to my final destination. I asked why, then after nobody gave me an answer, I asked how they could not check my bags. I played the Ex Plat, FC paying customer card all to no avail. Of course, we were late to LHR and I had to scramble from T3-T5 and missed my flight due to a short connection. I did calculate that had my luggage been tagged to GVA, I would have made my flight. AA did not care!.
I think that is poor customer service. I wrote to AA customer care and four emails back and forth and all I am able to get out of AA is we value you. Thanks for your business when what I wanted was my two expiring SWU's being credited to my account for 2019. I think that is fair compensation. I earned them and I just didn't have to use them. I"m not asking for money or miles. I'm about to post these on other social media outlets. Does anyone have any other suggestions please?
thank you in advance.
I think that is poor customer service. I wrote to AA customer care and four emails back and forth and all I am able to get out of AA is we value you. Thanks for your business when what I wanted was my two expiring SWU's being credited to my account for 2019. I think that is fair compensation. I earned them and I just didn't have to use them. I"m not asking for money or miles. I'm about to post these on other social media outlets. Does anyone have any other suggestions please?
thank you in advance.
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If I understand correctly, the policy is there so that each airline can collect all applicable baggage fees. Not defending the OP, who is being unreasonable, but couldn't AA figure out a way to charge the second OW airline's baggage fees (if any) at initial check-in? The policy is an unnecessarily heavy-handed solution to a problem that could be solved a different way. Not clear which class the OP was booked in on BA, but if it was a premium class the OP presumably would not owe baggage fees anyway---the system should at least allow exceptions in such cases.
Last edited by SeeBuyFly; Jan 17, 2019 at 4:47 pm
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Unforgivable they won't check thru even when AA to AA flights
I resent this policy so much. Out of my home base, the flight to/from a hub from which the transatlantic flight departs can add up to 2K to a biz class RT. I continue to take my chances by adding lengthy layovers on the outbound when using two separate PNRs with checked luggage.
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