charlyholly1

Wondering why AC provides strictly Rouge service to Las Vegas? We are travelling there with AC Vacations next month and after reading a number of Rouge reviews, I'm not impressed with what people are saying about 767-300's. Unfortunately competitors don't have the hotel options we're interested in. Hopefully I will be presently surprised with the flight. Any insights on this? (Apologize if this has been covered before but in checking available threads I didn't find anything.)

Cheers,
Rob

24left

Ah, but then the answers are buried in the main rouge thread, all 518 pages, started Dec 2012.

Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline

But simply, rouge costs to AC are significantly lower (labor), rouge customers may or may not be those who travel to more leisure-type destinations and the rest of the AC FT collective can add their thoughts.

LondonElite

yyz_atc_qq

Low Roller

So, forget about vacation packages and next time book the flight you want and the hotel separately.

The seats on those planes are very thin, so you'll feel a jab in your back every time someone behind you reaches into the seat pocket, adjusts their tray, etc. My best advice is to choose the seats right in front of the washrooms since there is a wall behind you instead of annoying passengers but they don't recline if that matters to you.

expert7700

Rouge to Vegas because... (pick 1)

-clearly a beach destination
-never any business travelers or conferences
-not enough demand for service more than once a week
-90% of tickets are sold by AC Vacations
OR
-ACr can pack 'em in like sardines with lower crew cost + lower cost per available seat mile

Also, package prices to vegas with hotel or car are only a good deal for one party: the travel seller. The only exception I have found is that sometimes during tech conferences, some sellers who bundle hotel+airfare have lower rates because they pre-negotiate blocks of rooms for every week of the year. In my younger days I'd book those and laugh at the disclaimer which would "prohibit business/conference attendees booking at these rates."

Symmetre

StuMcIlwain

Pay for a preferred seat to get a decent amount of legroom. You'll be glad you did three hours into the flight.

tcook052

Agree. I did when I flew Rouge YVR-LAS and for short flight it was fine for me. Just MHO.

HerpaYvr

Manage expectations! Prepare for Rouge and hope for the best.
Try and sleep all the way there and pretend it's AC Mainline, Singapore, Thai whatever works for you to get through this. I was forced on Rouge September long weekend to MIA for a JAYS game, i just passed out and avoid the experience of the Rouge flight!

yul36

Rouge is now flying most of the AC flights this fall to the other vacation mecca of YQB.
Who would have ever thought there was enough traffic for 3 A321's a day. Rest of the flights are Skyservice E-175s. First time in a long time no mainline there.

jazzsax

The way I deal with ACR flights is go spend time in the galley. My father used to be an FA and I have tons of stories from my earlier travel days. They like to chit chat and will often give you extras for free and just be overly bubbly and cheery.

Doesn't hurt that the FA's on rouge are also prettier to look at than the dragons on mainline.

24left

LOL. Yes, and I did 4 sectors on those ex-AF 321s (with those nasty Recaro seats) for the YQB Do - J in July and Y + FTer Smartie Party in September.

But each flight was packed in the back. In September, it was full of American tourists coming up for cruise season. Not sure they knew exactly which airline they were on and it seemed they didn't care. The flights are a little over an hour.

jc94

RZR

You just like AQM 's . and flying.
Extra 8 hours of gate to gate to gate your way for saving about 105 minutes of rouge aircraft. Not worth it.

Im not judging , I did it twice in the last 20 days