BA clamping down on missed final ex-EU sector [?]
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This is turning into a hugely entertaining episode of "When lawyers attack"
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The corporation can state what they want in their Ts and Cs but it is for the consumer to bring the case wherever he chooses and the system then to decide. When bought online then it is most likely heard in the country in which the passenger made his booking from ie normally home.
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Dave I reckon is our man.
I do so hope he continues to contribute in exactly the way he has and doesn't bow to the bullying. We'd benefit from his knowledge, fun and preparedness to actually debate.
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All the toing and froing is a nice intellectual debate, but it's still an attempt to synthesise a hypothetical situation into a concrete resolution. Or maybe it's turning water into wine. Anyway, that's the beauty of an internet forum: the apparently effortless flow of ideas and discussions without repercussion (save to an online ego, of course).
And it's still raining.
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Secret confessions, oh my But seriously, I am happy to confess that this is not my area of the law, which is why I have not engaged in the specific content matter. It was uk1 comments about the barrister asking where the robbing room was that made me realise that the last time I stepped foot in a county court was seven years ago. (I thought my civil brethren gave up gowns in 2008.)
All the toing and froing is a nice intellectual debate, but it's still an attempt to synthesise a hypothetical situation into a concrete resolution. Or maybe it's turning water into wine. Anyway, that's the beauty of an internet forum: the apparently effortless flow of ideas and discussions without repercussion (save to an online ego, of course).
And it's still raining.
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All the toing and froing is a nice intellectual debate, but it's still an attempt to synthesise a hypothetical situation into a concrete resolution. Or maybe it's turning water into wine. Anyway, that's the beauty of an internet forum: the apparently effortless flow of ideas and discussions without repercussion (save to an online ego, of course).
And it's still raining.
H
I really enjoy reading the opinions and wallow in intelligent debate which I so enjoy ... whether I agree with it or not. It is lovely to see respectful disagreement. It presents a real opportunity to learn rather than defend.
I was told when I worked for the corporation that I was confusing to work for because I would learn by debating and it sounded like interrogation I'm told. But it was simply a quick way of learning, and soak testing alternative ideas and views rigorously, and because I have no embarrassment about changing my mind, people would find it odd when it seemed like I was seemingly aggressively disagreeing with some one for half an hour and then I'd say "I agree ... your version of this is better than mine .... you've convinced me .... thanks".
Where would we be if there was insufficient people with better things to do .... it's just a bit if a shame that too much is still poster rather than post obsessive.
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However, with most forms of transport less is more valuable. You pay a premium to travel on an express train rather than a stopping service. Why? Because it takes less time and that time has a value.
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This is only counter-intuitive if you do not realise that you are comparing apples with pears in many of the comparisons offered.
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This is only counter-intuitive if you do not realise that you are comparing apples with pears in many of the comparisons offered.
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Oneworld joint venture no longer seems to price direct vs connecting differently, at least until we get close to departure (< 2 weeks) and booking codes start to fill up.
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Prices on TATL are almost flat UK wide, with a few quirks from time to time. Hence Belfast is usually twice the price of Dublin.
Oneworld joint venture no longer seems to price direct vs connecting differently, at least until we get close to departure (< 2 weeks) and booking codes start to fill up.
Oneworld joint venture no longer seems to price direct vs connecting differently, at least until we get close to departure (< 2 weeks) and booking codes start to fill up.
I am not a legal expert so I am not sure what this would mean if something did end up going to court, but wouldn't it make it difficult for an airline to claim that an indirect itinerary is of less value than a direct one and to therefore use the direct vs indirect differentiation as a basis for levying a higher price to the customer who skips their last leg?
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Sadly, it always means that provincial flyers have the worst of both worlds (high prices and connections), so in practice, flying BA from MAN, AF from NCE, or LH from TXL virtually always guarantees you a bad deal.
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Wow, if ever there was an argument for ending the practice of law as it exists today and limiting all contracts to one page maximum of clear language interpreted under common sense rules by common sense judges, this thread is it.
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... I am not a legal expert so I am not sure what this would mean if something did end up going to court, but wouldn't it make it difficult for an airline to claim that an indirect itinerary is of less value than a direct one and to therefore use the direct vs indirect differentiation as a basis for levying a higher price to the customer who skips their last leg?
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In my experience judges (in England at least) tend to be excellent at understanding the legal issues and are very discerning.
There is currently a drive to simplify contracts and conditions in consumer contracts but there is still a long way to go.
It would be impossible to restrict contracts and T&Cs to just one page in many instances. Remember a contract is a two way thing, the protections are there for both parties. Some are a little too onerous, I agree but to oversimplify them would create more problems than they would solve.