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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 9:44 am
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Paying for priority boarding or for an extra half-inch of leg room is an old idea. Anyone's who's flown SleazyJet or Monarch is familiar with the idea.

I wonder what took WN so long.

Anyway, OT: I am absolutely ELATED by the news that priority boarding for families with brats will soon be history. I never understood how the decision to breed led to preferential treatment.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by Droneklax
Anyway, OT: I am absolutely ELATED by the news that priority boarding for families with brats will soon be history. I never understood how the decision to breed led to preferential treatment.
It was done to allow kids and parents to sit together. I did give up an isle seat once to allow a mother and her young daughter to sit together on a flight which was full since no one else would. I wished at the time they had pre-boarded.

To us it doesnt matter. As seasoned travelers, we will just make sure to get the first group of A boarding passes and board first.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by cxn
It was done to allow kids and parents to sit together. I did give up an isle seat once to allow a mother and her young daughter to sit together on a flight which was full since no one else would. I wished at the time they had pre-boarded.

To us it doesnt matter. As seasoned travelers, we will just make sure to get the first group of A boarding passes and board first.
And they will now have to do the same if they want to fly sitting next to Junior. ^
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by Droneklax
And they will now have to do the same if they want to fly sitting next to Junior. ^
Incorrect. You're forgetting the post-A family boarding.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:30 am
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What is the consensous on the new boarding process?

I see a thread out there about "assigned seating," but obviously that didn't come to be. However, what we will be getting soon is boarding by-the-numbers.

I, for one, believe that the new process will be better than the current process. I'm always getting very low numbers on my boarding passes, so, if that continues, the new process will work better for me than the current process.

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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:47 am
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Regardless of their new seating scheme, it still is a hassle not to have assigned seats. SWA is still creating a cattle call mentality with their new numbering procedures. When passengers board planes, they still fool around deciding where to sit. Give them a seat number and be done with it.

I happily pay a little more to fly on airlines with assigned seats, and in many cases those flights don't even cost me more money. Would I pay more for a preferred seat on SWA (aisle, bulkhead, etc.) Absolutely not! It's not just the lack of seat assignments that annoys me.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by TTT103
Regardless of their new seating scheme, it still is a hassle not to have assigned seats.
You have plenty of options for airlines which offer assigned seats. Leave "our" only open seating airline alone! We like it the way it is.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:52 am
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I'm pretty happy with the decision. I was concerned that they'd go to assigned seating which I definiately do not want. Automatic "A" for YL fares would be fine but I hope that they do not start selling "A" passes.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by lougord99
My computer clock is synced with the atomic clock, and I have not found that problem. You can get a program to sync your computer clock with the atomic clock at this site: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/atomic-clock/
I wonder if Southwest isn't sync'd up, but then adds a certain amount of random error to mess up entities like BoardFirst.com? I also using an atomic time clock and find that it is always 30-60 seconds after the turn of the minute before Southwest will let you get your boarding pass. Based on last experience, I think about 45 seconds is the magic moment.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Hayden
Perhaps I've been on different flights, but with the exception of an American Eagle flight, all of my recent AA flights (a combination of intra-California, mid-cons, transcons, and international) have pre-boarded passengers who need a bit more time/assistance to board, prior to commencing boarding for everyone else. On one or two flights, I think they boarded First at the same time.

Pre-boarders on my AA flights have usually been families with babies or very young children and people who have difficulty walking. The GA has never made an announcement about "medical conditions," but has usually done the "people who need a bit more time/assistance" PA. In general, they've identified those people prior to commencing boarding.

-Hayden
Last week I flew AA, ORD to MSP on an MD-80. 1 family with a baby tried to board with 1st and was specifically reject by the GA and told to board by their zone number.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by FCfree
I wonder if Southwest isn't sync'd up, but then adds a certain amount of random error to mess up entities like BoardFirst.com? I also using an atomic time clock and find that it is always 30-60 seconds after the turn of the minute before Southwest will let you get your boarding pass. Based on last experience, I think about 45 seconds is the magic moment.
I've noticed the same. My theory is there is a degree of lag between all the connected systems.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by TTT103
SWA is still creating a cattle call mentality with their new numbering procedures. When passengers board planes, they still fool around deciding where to sit. Give them a seat number and be done with it.
Except that you're forgetting that the average plane, most any plane that's predominantly coach (ie, anything except all-business or all-first planes) is full of infrequent flyers who fool around at least as much with figuring out where their assigned seat is (especially in summer, around holidays, etc).

(These overlap a lot with the tons of people in Group 3 or 5 who try to board with first-class, because they have no clue about boarding order, don't listen carefully to boarding annoucements, etc.)

So on Southwest they can just grab a seat without having to know its number or letter. On other airlines it's slower for them (and thus the people behind them), because for reason it takes them forever just to figure out how seat numbers work!

If people board Southwest so inefficiently, how are they able to get the 25-minute turn that other airlines can't seem to manage with same-size planes?

Originally Posted by TTT103
Would I pay more for a preferred seat on SWA (aisle, bulkhead, etc.) Absolutely not! It's not just the lack of seat assignments that annoys me.
Yeah, isn't it funny that people who come to the Southwest board to complain about the lack of assigned seating and offer theories about why it's so bad are both ones who rarely fly Southwest and ones who wouldn't fly Southwest even if they changed this policy!
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by FCfree
I, for one, believe that the new process will be better than the current process. I'm always getting very low numbers on my boarding passes, so, if that continues, the new process will work better for me than the current process.

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I agree the new system will be an improvement. But now it's a race to check in at 23:59:59 (or 23:59:15 according to FCfree's atomic clock). Before, if my flight leaves at noon tomorrow, I'm just fine if I check in at 1:00. Now, the guy checking in at noon has a distinct advantage over the person checking in at 1:00.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 4:54 pm
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http://www.azcentral.com/business/ar...st0924-ON.html
BoardFirst caters to Southwest's line change

The boarding changes Southwest Airlines announced Tuesday may have upset families traveling with small children and business travelers hoping for assigned seating, but Phoenix entrepreneur Kate Bell was nothing but pleased.

The changes could drive more business to BoardFirst.com, the service she started a couple of years ago to help people snag a good boarding pass. [...]

If the Dallas carrier had switched to assigned seating, as it had considered during a lengthy boarding and seating experiment, Bell would have been instantly out of business. [...]

But there is an important new twist: Instead of just piling into the A, B and C lines first-come, first serve, your place in line will now be determined by the order in which you checked in. If you're first to check in online, you are A1 and first in line. If you're 62nd, you're B2, or second in the B line.

"Since they will be boarding by numbers now . . . being on time to check in will mean more than ever," she said. [...]
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by TTT103
It's not just the lack of seat assignments that annoys me.
What is it that does annoy you then, the fact that your favorite airline is not as successful?
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