What to say to pax automatically assuming you are in Y...
#46
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If I felt like being confrontational, I'd say, "Yes it is the first class line. Now, if you don't belong here, you'd better get out of my way."
In most cases, however, I'd reply, "What makes you say that?"
In most cases, however, I'd reply, "What makes you say that?"
#47




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I said domestic F. Do not compare int'l C (even when used on domestic routes) to domestic F.
Originally Posted by BlissWorld
You obviously have not flown F often enough. Perhaps it is time to try F on CO's BusinessFirst configured planes on Hawaiian routes and transcon.Let me give you a taste of it:
55" sleeper seats with IFE 12 movies to select from, games, etc and 5 course meal: (This was what was served in June for the following routes:
LAX-EWR/HNL/OGG; PDX/SAN/SEA/SFO/SJC/SNA/YVR-EWR)
55" pitch
President Club Access
Smoke salmon appetizer with Caviar
Salad with toppings
Surf and turf main entree
Ice cream sundae with strawberry sauce
55" sleeper seats with IFE 12 movies to select from, games, etc and 5 course meal: (This was what was served in June for the following routes:
LAX-EWR/HNL/OGG; PDX/SAN/SEA/SFO/SJC/SNA/YVR-EWR)
55" pitch
President Club Access
Smoke salmon appetizer with Caviar
Salad with toppings
Surf and turf main entree
Ice cream sundae with strawberry sauce
#48
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This makes me laugh so hard. Last week, on my normal flight back to the US, I am dressed like an homeless college student. Jeans with holes in the knees, flippies, and a hoodie. I am in line to board and this jacka** guy behind me cuts in front of me. Me being in a foul mood to start with and not feeling so hot, poke him on the shoulder and inquire just what the hell he's doing. He just looks at me and laughs. Tells me to go sit down. The best part was the GA saw the whole thing, laughs and asks me, by name, to come to the front of the line. Haha. The look on his face when he saw that he was 3 rows behind me was great.
Bottom line. Don't judge a book by their cover (or in this case crappy looking outfits)
Bottom line. Don't judge a book by their cover (or in this case crappy looking outfits)
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Originally Posted by entilzhaFT
Yes. I think Niles said it.
Fraiser's full quote when they find-out the clock was stolen by a servant:
"Now there's a back aching for the lash."
Freaking hysertical.
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Originally Posted by herzmeh
I said domestic F. Do not compare int'l C (even when used on domestic routes) to domestic F.
Originally Posted by herzmeh
On the other hand, looking at domestic US F (or European C), I'm not even sure why people make such a big deal who wears in F
There are many airlines who offer fantastic DOMESTIC transcontinental service with great first class products. These are the long trips that count. Don't agree with Continental? How about United Premium Service with 67" lie-flat beds in First. Now don't say this is int'l C/F because they only have p.s. aircrafts available domestically from coast to coast. Even their p.s. business has 55" of room which is comparable to CO. Continetal does not just "use int'l C" domestically. They provide excellent transcontinental services. The meal pictures I posted were served in several DOMESTIC markets: LAX-EWR/HNL/OGG; PDX/SAN/SEA/SFO/SJC/SNA/YVR-EWR
I don't even consider first class, first class, when flying LAX-SFO, or LAX-DEN etc. With flights of such duration, what do you expect?
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Originally Posted by BlissWorld
Oh?
And since when did LAX-EWR/HNL/OGG; PDX/SAN/SEA/SFO/SJC/SNA/YVR-EWR become international? The last time I checked, Newark is still in New Jersey.
There are many airlines who offer fantastic DOMESTIC transcontinental service with great first class products. These are the long trips that count. Don't agree with Continental? How about United Premium Service with 67" lie-flat beds in First. Now don't say this is int'l C/F because they only have p.s. aircrafts available domestically from coast to coast. Even their p.s. business has 55" of room which is comparable to CO. Continetal does not just "use int'l C" domestically. They provide excellent transcontinental services. The meal pictures I posted were served in several DOMESTIC markets: LAX-EWR/HNL/OGG; PDX/SAN/SEA/SFO/SJC/SNA/YVR-EWR
I don't even consider first class, first class, when flying LAX-SFO, or LAX-DEN etc. With flights of such duration, what do you expect?
Not sure what you're trying to prove (especially by making "european c" bold)... Most domestic F products in the U.S. suck, bringing up a few great ones out there isn't really an indicator of the general F service out there.
P.S. You forgot to mention the BE-configured 777 DL uses between ATL and JFK, I love when I get on that plane (food is the standard domestic 2hr F grub, unfortunately...)
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Originally Posted by jyatlantic
What to say to pax automatically assuming you are in Y . . ."
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#55
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I can't imagine this happening. I've never had a passenger challenge me about my seat or when I board or anything like that.
I did, however, get challenged by an FA in international C a couple of weeks ago. Right after take-off I discovered that my seat was broken. The FA apologized and had me move up to another seat several rows forward. About 10 minutes later the purser strode up to me and demanded my boarding pass stub, telling me that I needed to return to my seat immediately and basically lecturing me about the difference between the three cabins on the aircraft. I couldn't get a word in edgwise, so I handed her my boarding pass stub. She saw I had a seat in the same cabin and then was puzzled enough to let me explain. To her credit, she immediately apologized profusely and seemed genuinely embarassed about the whole thing. She ended up being really great the rest of the flight.
But a passenger? I don't think I'd hesitate to tell him or her off.
I did, however, get challenged by an FA in international C a couple of weeks ago. Right after take-off I discovered that my seat was broken. The FA apologized and had me move up to another seat several rows forward. About 10 minutes later the purser strode up to me and demanded my boarding pass stub, telling me that I needed to return to my seat immediately and basically lecturing me about the difference between the three cabins on the aircraft. I couldn't get a word in edgwise, so I handed her my boarding pass stub. She saw I had a seat in the same cabin and then was puzzled enough to let me explain. To her credit, she immediately apologized profusely and seemed genuinely embarassed about the whole thing. She ended up being really great the rest of the flight.

But a passenger? I don't think I'd hesitate to tell him or her off.
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Originally Posted by FLYGVA
I gate agent of OZ told out "Economy this way" as we wanted to enter First / Business Class entrance. ...
It is up to him to ask to see your boarding pass or otherwise address you personally and politely when you continue down the first class line. (He does not have to know or memorize your name.)
Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
I've only had the situation a few times - on domestic - and I know this sounds mean, but it's true - older white biz-men shoving themselves to the front of the line -.
More on-topic: I have been flamed various times on these boards for suggesting the stereotype of biztravelers' being rude.
Last edited by AllanJ; Jul 10, 2006 at 7:50 am
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Several years ago, traveling in paid first on CO, I was dressed very sloppily (t-shirt/shorts/flipflops) on a flight from IAH-FLL for vacation. As I was standing in line for boarding, this self-important woman cut in front of me while talking on her cell very rudely to who I assume was her assistant. Never an excuse me, or an apology, just cut right in. Well, imagine my surprise when I board to find her in my seat. Apparently, she'd been given an automatic upgrade as an elite member, but was assigned my seat. I told the FA she was in my seat and showed my BP showing I was in paid FC. The FA checked with the GA, who told the FA that the woman was given the seat in error. When the FA walked up to her to reseat her, the lady, still on the cell phone, wouldn't acknowledge the FA.
The FA looked at me with "the eyes" and a smirk and then leaned her face infront of the woman and said, "Ma'am, we're going to need to reseat you in the main cabin. You're in this gentleman's seat." The woman went nuts! (I can only imagine what the poor assistant was thinking on the other end of the phone!) After the woman's tirade was over, she ultimately took her seat in coach.
As she gathered her things to walk back, she made one last glare at me and I said, "Karma."
The FA looked at me with "the eyes" and a smirk and then leaned her face infront of the woman and said, "Ma'am, we're going to need to reseat you in the main cabin. You're in this gentleman's seat." The woman went nuts! (I can only imagine what the poor assistant was thinking on the other end of the phone!) After the woman's tirade was over, she ultimately took her seat in coach.
As she gathered her things to walk back, she made one last glare at me and I said, "Karma."
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Originally Posted by ASULawFlyer
Several years ago, traveling in paid first on CO, I was dressed very sloppily (t-shirt/shorts/flipflops) on a flight from IAH-FLL for vacation. As I was standing in line for boarding, this self-important woman cut in front of me while talking on her cell very rudely to who I assume was her assistant. Never an excuse me, or an apology, just cut right in. Well, imagine my surprise when I board to find her in my seat. Apparently, she'd been given an automatic upgrade as an elite member, but was assigned my seat. I told the FA she was in my seat and showed my BP showing I was in paid FC. The FA checked with the GA, who told the FA that the woman was given the seat in error. When the FA walked up to her to reseat her, the lady, still on the cell phone, wouldn't acknowledge the FA.
The FA looked at me with "the eyes" and a smirk and then leaned her face infront of the woman and said, "Ma'am, we're going to need to reseat you in the main cabin. You're in this gentleman's seat." The woman went nuts! (I can only imagine what the poor assistant was thinking on the other end of the phone!) After the woman's tirade was over, she ultimately took her seat in coach.
As she gathered her things to walk back, she made one last glare at me and I said, "Karma."
The FA looked at me with "the eyes" and a smirk and then leaned her face infront of the woman and said, "Ma'am, we're going to need to reseat you in the main cabin. You're in this gentleman's seat." The woman went nuts! (I can only imagine what the poor assistant was thinking on the other end of the phone!) After the woman's tirade was over, she ultimately took her seat in coach.
As she gathered her things to walk back, she made one last glare at me and I said, "Karma."
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Originally Posted by dd992emo
Miranda Priestly?
Last edited by ASULawFlyer; Jul 10, 2006 at 1:23 pm
#60

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I fly F out of SEA a lot and haven't had this happen despite being not only (relatively) young and female, but also fairly overweight (which for some reason some people tend to assume = less money/lower class) and have always assumed it's because everyone just figures you're probably some dot-com tycoon. 
I have had it happen in line at check-in elsewhere, though more often of the "you know this line is for ELITE passengers, right?" variety to which I sweetly say "and First Class." The best, however, was on a BA flight from LHR to SEA, when I was flying in F (on an award ticket, I hasten to add) and my mom was flying in coach (for the record, I offered to upgrade her to biz and she turned me down). Midway through the flight, I desperately needed a painkiller which I knew she had, so I wandered back to the cheap seats and talked with her a bit and got the pill, etc. As I was making my way back to the front, a FA stopped me and told me to go back to my seat. I said, "yes, that's what I'm doing. My seat is that way" and pointed to the front.

I have had it happen in line at check-in elsewhere, though more often of the "you know this line is for ELITE passengers, right?" variety to which I sweetly say "and First Class." The best, however, was on a BA flight from LHR to SEA, when I was flying in F (on an award ticket, I hasten to add) and my mom was flying in coach (for the record, I offered to upgrade her to biz and she turned me down). Midway through the flight, I desperately needed a painkiller which I knew she had, so I wandered back to the cheap seats and talked with her a bit and got the pill, etc. As I was making my way back to the front, a FA stopped me and told me to go back to my seat. I said, "yes, that's what I'm doing. My seat is that way" and pointed to the front.


