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Hotel category change list
https://world.hyatt.com/content/gp/e...-updates.html
https://world.hyatt.com/content/gp/e...-updates.html
World of Hyatt award chart structure and category changes for 2026
#151



Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,969
I started qualifying for SPG plat when I was 26. I was struggling financially as an entrepreneur then but the on property benefits were so good I convinced my wife to push to requalify every year. When lifetime came out, I told her I was going for it. We did vacations around Starwood.
After the Marriott debacle, she forbid me to go for LTG. We benefitted from platinum but also went out of our way.
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I am glad she put her foot down on LTG. I won't abandon Hyatt as long as I keep getting suites at Park Hyatts and Andazes.
But I just Told her about the devaluation and how we have 800,000'points. She's mad and think I should finally just give in an pay for what I want and forget loyalty. So my guess is I'll switch to Marriott and four season/ rosewood types 20-30% of stays rather than forcing a Hyatt stay out of loyalty.
Rosewood Beijing, London and HK over PH, HR Churchill and GH type of thing. I did 130 nights in Hyatts last year and have 45 now. I'll requalify this yr and next but might do 60-80 nights rather then 100+ anymore
After the Marriott debacle, she forbid me to go for LTG. We benefitted from platinum but also went out of our way.
.
I am glad she put her foot down on LTG. I won't abandon Hyatt as long as I keep getting suites at Park Hyatts and Andazes.
But I just Told her about the devaluation and how we have 800,000'points. She's mad and think I should finally just give in an pay for what I want and forget loyalty. So my guess is I'll switch to Marriott and four season/ rosewood types 20-30% of stays rather than forcing a Hyatt stay out of loyalty.
Rosewood Beijing, London and HK over PH, HR Churchill and GH type of thing. I did 130 nights in Hyatts last year and have 45 now. I'll requalify this yr and next but might do 60-80 nights rather then 100+ anymore
#152
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Programs: MB Ambassador, WOH Globalist, HH Diamond (Aspire), IHG Plat (CC), UA (*G) Gold, AA Plat (OWS)
Posts: 10,029
I think from the credit card business perspective, they are (and we should be too) looking at return per dollar spent. Lets look at non-bonus categories. At 0.7 cpp, each dollar spent on the Marriott cards gets you 1.4 cpd. Thats much less than the current 2 cpd on the Hyatt cards. Once you factor in the bonus categories on Chase UR, the return is significantly higher when transferring to Hyatt.
Hyatt value is also higher than Chases own UR (if you exclude Hyatt transfers).
So I suspect their goal is to bring down this average anchor of 2 cpp.
Hyatt value is also higher than Chases own UR (if you exclude Hyatt transfers).
So I suspect their goal is to bring down this average anchor of 2 cpp.
Eh, Im not really much of a credit card reward chaser anyway, and Ill keep traveling where I want to and trying my best to enjoy it.
#153




Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,836
You are absolutely right that for people who want simplicity or have the spending power to pay for whatever travel experience that they would be happy with, a cash back card is probably the best option.
But I think a lot of people are willing to put in some effort to play this continuing evolving game.
A lot of people are probably thinking: If I put this much more spending on the card, then Ill get another milestone award, or hit globalist and get destination or parking fee waived.
Its a delicate balance for these programs, if the change is too drastic and triggers bad word of mouth that cause a massive exodus, that would be bad. But gamification is a pretty established field and theyve had years to learn from the SPG transition and Delta.
#154
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Programs: MB Ambassador, WOH Globalist, HH Diamond (Aspire), IHG Plat (CC), UA (*G) Gold, AA Plat (OWS)
Posts: 10,029
Thats been true for a while since the introduction of Citi Double Cash and yet we are seeing rapid growth of Marriott, United, and Delta cards. Many people here probably only get these cards for the SUB or annual benefits, but the data from the banks and these programs clearly suggest that people are putting spending on these cards.
You are absolutely right that for people who want simplicity or have the spending power to pay for whatever travel experience that they would be happy with, a cash back card is probably the best option.
But I think a lot of people are willing to put in some effort to play this continuing evolving game.
A lot of people are probably thinking: If I put this much more spending on the card, then Ill get another milestone award, or hit globalist and get destination or parking fee waived.
Its a delicate balance for these programs, if the change is too drastic and triggers bad word of mouth that cause a massive exodus, that would be bad. But gamification is a pretty established field and theyve had years to learn from the SPG transition and Delta.
You are absolutely right that for people who want simplicity or have the spending power to pay for whatever travel experience that they would be happy with, a cash back card is probably the best option.
But I think a lot of people are willing to put in some effort to play this continuing evolving game.
A lot of people are probably thinking: If I put this much more spending on the card, then Ill get another milestone award, or hit globalist and get destination or parking fee waived.
Its a delicate balance for these programs, if the change is too drastic and triggers bad word of mouth that cause a massive exodus, that would be bad. But gamification is a pretty established field and theyve had years to learn from the SPG transition and Delta.
#155


Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AS Silver, UA, AA, Hyatt Globalist, and Marriott Silver
Posts: 571
That means that the narrative moving forward these next few months is going to just focus and spin on the negative changes. This will be amplified with the hotel category devaluations in April and the actual release of the award calendars with these changes in May. Especially with no explicit statements that besides electronic points transfers and expanded award calendars for elites, we cant expect any positive changes.
I remember the blowback delta got a few years ago when they rolled out a massive devaluation of the program all at once. They pulled back pretty quickly but have been implementing these changes more gradually and the blowback is now more incremental grumbling. I dont see Hyatt backing off on this unfortunately.
I guess Its better to just slowly turn up the heat of the pot than drop the frog into already boiling water.
#156


Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: None - previously UA
Posts: 5,390
#157




Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: AS MVPG; Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 160
Genuinely not sure what to do after hearing this news. I'm a ~60-90 night/year person, predominantly work with personal travel mixed in. We plan our vacations around Hyatt properties, and have even gone as far as to get friend groups to make block reservations at Hyatt properties when we travel together. Everyday spend goes on my WoH CC, and we've had fantastic experiences with the program after first qualifying for Globalist in 2021. I'm already more than halfway to Glob again for 2026, but this is a kick in the nuts.
#158
Ambassador: World of Hyatt




Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 11,142
Doctor of Credit calculated a 37% increase in point redemptions cost
I already thought many of the redemptions costs high prior especially to this insanity looking at Hyatts deficiencies
and lack of Improvements since Jeff Zidell @ Hyatt left office who created the transition from Gold Passport to World of Hyatt
Like SPG it was an iconic world class program that differentiated itself from the rest of the competition
And while he and I didn’t always agree he was an innovator and along with some negatives came net positives
However these extraordinary negative changes are massively more than the next 10 to 14 years of inflation
if we figure typically inflation @ 3% a year historically
Ive always had faith and trust in Hyatt to generally do the right thing for its members but this is a game changer
Looking at the overall coming carnage coming they will without a doubt lose business across the board from myself and that likely of others.Their management should be ashamed much like Southwest and their self destruction aberration.
My business short haul flying is down 97% and it will never recover going forward
There simply is no way to be an apologist for Hyatts business decision making
Like Southwest they did it too aggressively and too fast all while trying to preserve award charts and avoiding a complete dynamic pricing model which is ultimately what they really wanted anyway but were too frightened to do it
That’s my thoughts and assessments and now it on to some 3rd party sites to book hotel reservations which will be more rewarding for my travel needs
And when a hotel stay goes bad I can count on far better than Hyatts brand assurance I will get my money back
Booking on 3rd party sites is something I didn’t do for many years.
But here we are 🤷♂️🙄🤯🫠
Hyatt you’ve really blown it this time out at bat
I already thought many of the redemptions costs high prior especially to this insanity looking at Hyatts deficiencies
and lack of Improvements since Jeff Zidell @ Hyatt left office who created the transition from Gold Passport to World of Hyatt
Like SPG it was an iconic world class program that differentiated itself from the rest of the competition
And while he and I didn’t always agree he was an innovator and along with some negatives came net positives
However these extraordinary negative changes are massively more than the next 10 to 14 years of inflation
if we figure typically inflation @ 3% a year historically
Ive always had faith and trust in Hyatt to generally do the right thing for its members but this is a game changer
Looking at the overall coming carnage coming they will without a doubt lose business across the board from myself and that likely of others.Their management should be ashamed much like Southwest and their self destruction aberration.
My business short haul flying is down 97% and it will never recover going forward
There simply is no way to be an apologist for Hyatts business decision making
Like Southwest they did it too aggressively and too fast all while trying to preserve award charts and avoiding a complete dynamic pricing model which is ultimately what they really wanted anyway but were too frightened to do it
That’s my thoughts and assessments and now it on to some 3rd party sites to book hotel reservations which will be more rewarding for my travel needs
And when a hotel stay goes bad I can count on far better than Hyatts brand assurance I will get my money back
Booking on 3rd party sites is something I didn’t do for many years.
But here we are 🤷♂️🙄🤯🫠
Hyatt you’ve really blown it this time out at bat
Last edited by 777 global mile hound; Feb 26, 2026 at 10:02 am
#159




Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,050
Hyatt did what it did because of the IPO and the unrestrained destructive greed mentality that brought.
Southwest did what it did because of human scum hedge fund activist filth that bought enough shares to force change so they could extract short term profit while destroying a culture and airline that took decades to build.
Common trend.
Southwest did what it did because of human scum hedge fund activist filth that bought enough shares to force change so they could extract short term profit while destroying a culture and airline that took decades to build.
Common trend.
#160




Join Date: Jan 2020
Programs: SQ Gold, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Caesars Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Atmos Silver, IHG Platinum
Posts: 2,219
But here's the problem: where to put spend? I've gone all in the Chase UR ecosystem to get points for Hyatt. I would never pay for business class seats so transferring to an airline doesn't mean I'm saving money, while I'm saving to get a suite because I probably would pay for one.
That's the dilemma I have. I redid my spending when the SPG Amex disappeared and have got all my companies, my kid's companies and all personal spend into UR to get Hyatt points.
Now what? And I'm not us based so I find harder to get airline redemptions that make any sense. Marriott cards junk.
That's the dilemma I have. I redid my spending when the SPG Amex disappeared and have got all my companies, my kid's companies and all personal spend into UR to get Hyatt points.
Now what? And I'm not us based so I find harder to get airline redemptions that make any sense. Marriott cards junk.
Bilt Palladium is good if you're willing to go through the hoops but if you don't have a rent/mortgage in the US it is harder to maximize
Maybe a general 2x card with no FTF is good enough
#161



Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,969
Alaska Summit is very good if you're not US based, but if you don't want to redeem the miles maybe it's not valuable.
Bilt Palladium is good if you're willing to go through the hoops but if you don't have a rent/mortgage in the US it is harder to maximize
Maybe a general 2x card with no FTF is good enough
Bilt Palladium is good if you're willing to go through the hoops but if you don't have a rent/mortgage in the US it is harder to maximize
Maybe a general 2x card with no FTF is good enough
#162




Join Date: Jan 2020
Programs: SQ Gold, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Caesars Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Atmos Silver, IHG Platinum
Posts: 2,219
It should be reasonably easy to use assuming you have a partner/family. Cardholder doesn't need to be traveling so just need any two people on a >25k mile cost flight (less is also ok but you forfeit the difference) and it works globally.
Also, it's 3.3x if you link a BoA account or Merrill Lynch account
Also, it's 3.3x if you link a BoA account or Merrill Lynch account
#164



Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 9,935
#165


Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AS Silver, UA, AA, Hyatt Globalist, and Marriott Silver
Posts: 571
Points redemptions are going to the 5 tiers, same as standard room awards. I'm not too familiar with the prices on current award charts, but Cat 8 at the new highest tier is 110k/night. Suite upgrade pricing is staying the same though. VFTW has a good overview of all the different changes and charts, including one showing all the new premium suite award prices.
https://viewfromthewing.com/hyatt-re...ore-expensive/
https://viewfromthewing.com/hyatt-re...ore-expensive/




