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Hotel category change list
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World of Hyatt award chart structure and category changes for 2026
#137



Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: PHL
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, Hilton HHonors Diamond
Posts: 1,346
But here's the problem: where to put spend? I've gone all in the Chase UR ecosystem to get points for Hyatt. I would never pay for business class seats so transferring to an airline doesn't mean I'm saving money, while I'm saving to get a suite because I probably would pay for one.
That's the dilemma I have. I redid my spending when the SPG Amex disappeared and have got all my companies, my kid's companies and all personal spend into UR to get Hyatt points.
Now what? And I'm not us based so I find harder to get airline redemptions that make any sense. Marriott cards junk.
Maybe Hilton Aspire as treatment in Asia is actually still pretty good in told.
That's the dilemma I have. I redid my spending when the SPG Amex disappeared and have got all my companies, my kid's companies and all personal spend into UR to get Hyatt points.
Now what? And I'm not us based so I find harder to get airline redemptions that make any sense. Marriott cards junk.
Maybe Hilton Aspire as treatment in Asia is actually still pretty good in told.
My travel is leisure. Im Explorist which already is a crappy tier. Ill book whoever has a decent hotel in a decent area, and hopefully use the $600 FH and HC bookings with Amex. No more spending a little more for a Hyatt. No more using UR points for Hyatt and hoping for 2cpp or more. At this point the new program is as bad as Hilton and I gave up on them when they cut the 140,000 point Amex 4 night bookings.
#138


Join Date: May 2014
Location: Taipei
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,378
It's not great news, but frankly, I do not think this change will impact my actual stays at Hyatt. It is likely to impact my credit card usage.
I travel a lot with my family (I had 81 butt in bed nights with Hyatt last year, nearly all personal) and there is no better program for traveling with a family than Hyatt:
But as to the actual stays, where else would I go? Marriott or Hilton are not going to meet my needs any better (in my opinion). By the way, I'm already Lifetime Titanium and don't get anywhere near the same treatment.
I travel a lot with my family (I had 81 butt in bed nights with Hyatt last year, nearly all personal) and there is no better program for traveling with a family than Hyatt:
- Confirmed suite upgrades - especially useful in Europe where base rooms often do not accommodate 3 people. 30 of my 81 nights last year were confirmed into suites and I consider this benefit incredibly valuable.
- Breakfast - for a family, superior to Marriott and Hilton for sure
- Late-checkout - extremely useful for my personal travel and I can pretty much rely on it with Hyatt
But as to the actual stays, where else would I go? Marriott or Hilton are not going to meet my needs any better (in my opinion). By the way, I'm already Lifetime Titanium and don't get anywhere near the same treatment.
#139


Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ, QF, UA, CO, DL
Posts: 3,881
As individual hotels continue to seek revenue enhancements where they can actually get it, I expect more Hyatt Places in the middle of nowhere will charge for parking. Maybe some will come up with a compulsory lobby use fee. Guests cannot avoid using the lobby so hard to argue against hotels imposing that.
#140




Join Date: May 2016
Location: In btw SJC & SFO
Programs: Marriott Titanium & LTP, Hilton Diamond (Aspire card), Hyatt Globalist, UA Silver from Bonvoy
Posts: 516
I was new to the World of Hyatt program, and this is now my fourth year as a Globalist. Until recently, I had planned to pursue lifetime status. Going forward, however, I wont prioritize staying at Hyatt, as I already hold lifetime Bonvoy Platinum and Hilton Diamond through the Aspire card as well as IHG diamond via point purchase offer. I will also utilize Amex FHR and Chase the Edit more.
Thank you, Hyatt, for allowing me to become a free agent and won't let me regret 10 years later.
#141
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,677
It's not great news, but frankly, I do not think this change will impact my actual stays at Hyatt. It is likely to impact my credit card usage.
I travel a lot with my family (I had 81 butt in bed nights with Hyatt last year, nearly all personal) and there is no better program for traveling with a family than Hyatt:
But as to the actual stays, where else would I go? Marriott or Hilton are not going to meet my needs any better (in my opinion). By the way, I'm already Lifetime Titanium and don't get anywhere near the same treatment.
I travel a lot with my family (I had 81 butt in bed nights with Hyatt last year, nearly all personal) and there is no better program for traveling with a family than Hyatt:
- Confirmed suite upgrades - especially useful in Europe where base rooms often do not accommodate 3 people. 30 of my 81 nights last year were confirmed into suites and I consider this benefit incredibly valuable.
- Breakfast - for a family, superior to Marriott and Hilton for sure
- Late-checkout - extremely useful for my personal travel and I can pretty much rely on it with Hyatt
But as to the actual stays, where else would I go? Marriott or Hilton are not going to meet my needs any better (in my opinion). By the way, I'm already Lifetime Titanium and don't get anywhere near the same treatment.
Or eat locally outside the hotel when traveling, especially in Europe? I actually dislike the tension I feel when being presented with a free hotel breakfast knowing that I'm getting a version of the same standard hotel breakfast that exists at every US-based hotel chain when I could be out in the culture I'm actually there to visit, finding something at least a bit more foreign and new.
#142


Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ TPPS, CX GO, Hyatt Lifetime Glob
Posts: 1,912
Wishful thinking probably, but I hope Hyatt explores some type of tiering with the announcement of 'early access to awards'. Theses changes so far have not been accompanied by incentives to want to stay or gain status in the program. Providing the same level of early access to all levels (except Explorist) and CC holders doesn't really cut it in my view. I'd like to see Hyatt adopt something similar to the airline FFP I'm most familiar with which provides its top tier not only exclusive access to awards but also provides access at times at a lower redemption rate.
#143


Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,364
Wishful thinking probably, but I hope Hyatt explores some type of tiering with the announcement of 'early access to awards'. Theses changes so far have not been accompanied by incentives to want to stay or gain status in the program. Providing the same level of early access to all levels (except Explorist) and CC holders doesn't really cut it in my view. I'd like to see Hyatt adopt something similar to the airline FFP I'm most familiar with which provides its top tier not only exclusive access to awards but also provides access at times at a lower redemption rate.
#144


Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ TPPS, CX GO, Hyatt Lifetime Glob
Posts: 1,912
I assume you're referring the UA FFP. Both UA and Hyatt are partners of Chase. Chase will likely see a significant drop in spending not only on its Hyatt cards but also on its own UR-generating cards (i.e. all Sapphire/Ink/Freedom cards). With one of the most severe devaluations of any loyalty program's currency, Hyatt is no longer the most valuable transfer partner of Chase that anchored the value of Chase's own transferrable currency, many of us would shift our spending to other credit cards. Hopefully, Chase may push Hyatt to adopt what UA has done, giving its cardholders (and Hyatt elites) some incentives to continue to engage with their respective programs.
#145
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: IB+ Gold, TK E+, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LTP, IHG Diamond
Posts: 14,191
This is what you get when credit cards become dominant. Eventually you need to make a credit card point worth less...
Personally, I've never found Hyatt's "earn and burn" to be particularly compelling, especially with no cashback options. It's the elite benefits and milestones that make it all worthwhile. But Hyatt is obviously aware that pure dynamic pricing would be suicidal.
Personally, I've never found Hyatt's "earn and burn" to be particularly compelling, especially with no cashback options. It's the elite benefits and milestones that make it all worthwhile. But Hyatt is obviously aware that pure dynamic pricing would be suicidal.
#146



Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington DC
Programs: IB Oro, AA GLD 1MM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 1,918
The baseline for me is 2 cents per point, because I could easily simply earn 2% cash back (e.g. via Fidelity or Citi cards). I am not the type of person who's going to mess around with multiple cards to optimize category spend, I need just one solid card.
I have been sticking with Hyatt because in my experience, I can easily get 2 cents per point (I typically only redeem at Category 1-4 properties, very rarely higher than that, and it's really easy to get 2 cents a point at low categories - today).
If I can't keep doing that, I will more than likely just start using the Fidelity 2% cash back card and stop doing things like paying my estimated taxes via credit.
The only other currency I can reliably get 2 cents per point from is AA, and by extension Citi TY points. But, I already have almost a million of those and I can't imagine that value is going to last forever given where DL and UA are.
I have been sticking with Hyatt because in my experience, I can easily get 2 cents per point (I typically only redeem at Category 1-4 properties, very rarely higher than that, and it's really easy to get 2 cents a point at low categories - today).
If I can't keep doing that, I will more than likely just start using the Fidelity 2% cash back card and stop doing things like paying my estimated taxes via credit.
The only other currency I can reliably get 2 cents per point from is AA, and by extension Citi TY points. But, I already have almost a million of those and I can't imagine that value is going to last forever given where DL and UA are.
#147
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Programs: MB Ambassador, WOH Globalist, HH Diamond (Aspire), IHG Plat (CC), UA (*G) Gold, AA Plat (OWS)
Posts: 10,085
I would be fine with dynamic pricing or the upcoming banded paradigm if the average valuation stays at 2 CPP - even at Marriott, I find it easy to get the average valuation or higher with dynamic pricing (though, Im not always going to the highest-demand hotels - because there are so many options). My decision process for cash vs. points as well as CC spend is nearly entirely based on that average CPP of 2.
#148



Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 9,941
The blogs have been focusing on the maxes, but we dont know how often that will be. But middle tier today (of 3) vs middle tier (of 5) in May is brutal
HYATT MIDDLE-TIER POINT REDEMPTION
(Current Standard vs New Moderate Pricing)
Category | Current Standard | New Moderate | Change | % Increase
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Cat 1 | 5,000 pts | 6,000 pts | +1,000 | +20%
Cat 2 | 8,000 pts | 10,000 pts | +2,000 | +25%
Cat 3 | 12,000 pts | 15,000 pts | +3,000 | +25%
Cat 4 | 15,000 pts | 20,000 pts | +5,000 | +33%
Cat 5 | 20,000 pts | 25,000 pts | +5,000 | +25%
Cat 6 | 25,000 pts 30,000 pts | +5,000 | +20%
Cat 7 | 30,000 pts | 35,000 pts | +5,000 | +17%
Cat 8 | 40,000 pts | 55,000 pts | +15,000| +38%
HYATT MIDDLE-TIER POINT REDEMPTION
(Current Standard vs New Moderate Pricing)
Category | Current Standard | New Moderate | Change | % Increase
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Cat 1 | 5,000 pts | 6,000 pts | +1,000 | +20%
Cat 2 | 8,000 pts | 10,000 pts | +2,000 | +25%
Cat 3 | 12,000 pts | 15,000 pts | +3,000 | +25%
Cat 4 | 15,000 pts | 20,000 pts | +5,000 | +33%
Cat 5 | 20,000 pts | 25,000 pts | +5,000 | +25%
Cat 6 | 25,000 pts 30,000 pts | +5,000 | +20%
Cat 7 | 30,000 pts | 35,000 pts | +5,000 | +17%
Cat 8 | 40,000 pts | 55,000 pts | +15,000| +38%
#149




Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,861
I would be fine with dynamic pricing or the upcoming banded paradigm if the average valuation stays at 2 CPP - even at Marriott, I find it easy to get the average valuation or higher with dynamic pricing (though, Im not always going to the highest-demand hotels - because there are so many options). My decision process for cash vs. points as well as CC spend is nearly entirely based on that average CPP of 2.
Hyatt value is also higher than Chases own UR (if you exclude Hyatt transfers).
So I suspect their goal is to bring down this average anchor of 2 cpp.




