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GUIDE to redeeming AA miles for Japan Air Lines awards:
For 2012-2015 posts, please see
ARCHIVE: AA Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thd)
For 2016-2023 posts, please see: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...16-2023-a.html
For further information, see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
- JL awards are now shown show and can be booked on aa.com
- AwardNexus (free to FlyerTalk members for basic searches) will also reveal, and (for a fee) alert, on JL award seats
- AA awards on JL must be MileSAAver (AAnytime awards are only available on AA marketed and AA operated flights)
- There are no onerous fuel or carrier-imposed surcharges using AAdvantage miles for awards using JL
- JL initially releases awards to AAvantage members 330 days out at 10:00 am JST time (18:00 PDT, 17:00 PST). Note, JL award inventory is released to members of other FFPs 360 day out and updates award and revenue seat award availability once daily ~09:30-12:00 Pacific time
- JL may release 0-2 F and 0-4 J award seats initially; until taken they remain available up to three months from release
- No further seats are likely to be released until shortly (~14 days) prior to scheduled departure - but the last F seat will be retained for sale, not released into award inventory
- No stopovers are allowed on AA awards. Connections may be as long as 23:59.
- Only JAL Mileage Bank members can waitlist awards
- All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments); these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
- If JL & QF are showing availability, but AA can't see it, try calling the Australia AA center as it may be a point-of-sale issue
For 2012-2015 posts, please see
ARCHIVE: AA Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thd)
For 2016-2023 posts, please see: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...16-2023-a.html
For further information, see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
AAdvantage Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thread)
#2521


Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 62
I have a F award NRT-ORD in October booked with AA miles and was notified of a significant schedule change to the timing of the flight (~10 hours). The HND-ORD same day is better timed and closer to the original NRT-ORD departure time. Does AA have the ability to request JAL open space to confirm on this flight given the significant schedule change and is it something they've historically been willing to do? I saw mentions of such a request on the Atmos thread for JAL awards but couldn't find it here so wasn't sure if AA would do the same. Not sure if F will make it more difficult but my ultimate goal is actually a J seat on the flight as my two traveling companions already have J seats on the same flight. They have the ability to move to the NRT-ORD directly as they were direct booked with JAL miles so if AA is not amendable I may end up just cancelling and hoping for a J seat last minute. Thanks for any insights.
#2522




Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: NYC/DC
Programs: AA, Bonvoy, Delta, Amtrak, JB
Posts: 1,840
I have a F award NRT-ORD in October booked with AA miles and was notified of a significant schedule change to the timing of the flight (~10 hours). The HND-ORD same day is better timed and closer to the original NRT-ORD departure time. Does AA have the ability to request JAL open space to confirm on this flight given the significant schedule change and is it something they've historically been willing to do? I saw mentions of such a request on the Atmos thread for JAL awards but couldn't find it here so wasn't sure if AA would do the same. Not sure if F will make it more difficult but my ultimate goal is actually a J seat on the flight as my two traveling companions already have J seats on the same flight. They have the ability to move to the NRT-ORD directly as they were direct booked with JAL miles so if AA is not amendable I may end up just cancelling and hoping for a J seat last minute. Thanks for any insights.
I had a very similar issue as yours last year. After many many attempts of calling and hanging up, I finally found an AA agent who could fix the problem. Thankfully, I didn't have to so this this time. As I stated above, i pulled up my reservations via the JAL website and it provided me with the option to change my reservations to several dates and other flight on same day as currently held.
#2523


Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 62
Have you attempted going directly to the JAL website and making the change there? I just did to my booking a little over an hour ago.
I had a very similar issue as yours last year. After many many attempts of calling and hanging up, I finally found an AA agent who could fix the problem. Thankfully, I didn't have to so this this time. As I stated above, i pulled up my reservations via the JAL website and it provided me with the option to change my reservations to several dates and other flight on same day as currently held.
I had a very similar issue as yours last year. After many many attempts of calling and hanging up, I finally found an AA agent who could fix the problem. Thankfully, I didn't have to so this this time. As I stated above, i pulled up my reservations via the JAL website and it provided me with the option to change my reservations to several dates and other flight on same day as currently held.
#2524



Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: USA
Programs: DL PM - IC RA - HHonors Gold - Hertz Gold - AA - US - CO - Choice Privileges
Posts: 2,081
Thank you very much for this tip and I was able to change to the desired flight directly on the JAL website. I honestly hadn't even contemplated this approach as I always expect having to discuss flight changes with the ticketing airline, hope for award bucket availability, etc. The change here was a far easier solution than I'd originally anticipated.
#2525
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend




Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,235
Have you attempted going directly to the JAL website and making the change there? I just did to my booking a little over an hour ago.
I had a very similar issue as yours last year. After many many attempts of calling and hanging up, I finally found an AA agent who could fix the problem. Thankfully, I didn't have to so this this time. As I stated above, i pulled up my reservations via the JAL website and it provided me with the option to change my reservations to several dates and other flight on same day as currently held.
I had a very similar issue as yours last year. After many many attempts of calling and hanging up, I finally found an AA agent who could fix the problem. Thankfully, I didn't have to so this this time. As I stated above, i pulled up my reservations via the JAL website and it provided me with the option to change my reservations to several dates and other flight on same day as currently held.
Between this and AA adding a new midday ORD-JAX flight since I first booked, my ORD layover has dropped from 9, to 5, to 3 hours (i.e. an awful itinerary transformed itself into a great itinerary).
#2526




Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ORD
Programs: Once a somebody now a nobody
Posts: 593
We've had our August ORD-NRT-ORD F redemptions moved by 2h and 9 hours. The way back was actually advantageous and we are now able to depart from HND instead of NRT and also leave 5h earlier. I was able to change on the JAL app and then call AA to reissue.
The issue I'm having is ORD-NRT has been downgraded to a 788 and we're now in the bulkhead center seats in J. The JAL app is allowing me the same option to switch to the later flight in F on the 777, but that arrives in Tokyo at 5:30pm vs 1:15pm. If I chat/call JAL will they allow me a one stop routing thru Dallas to then be able to try the A350 First class? I'd want to fly the night before and overnight in Dallas if that matters.
Most likely I'll probably just downgrade and take the nonstop just to cut out the chance of mis-connecting. Even if AA offered to open up space on their metal in F not sure it's worth it if I have to connect I'm assuming AA will refund the difference of the 80k F awards and 60k J awards? I would think they would but I could also see that being a HUCA situation
The issue I'm having is ORD-NRT has been downgraded to a 788 and we're now in the bulkhead center seats in J. The JAL app is allowing me the same option to switch to the later flight in F on the 777, but that arrives in Tokyo at 5:30pm vs 1:15pm. If I chat/call JAL will they allow me a one stop routing thru Dallas to then be able to try the A350 First class? I'd want to fly the night before and overnight in Dallas if that matters.
Most likely I'll probably just downgrade and take the nonstop just to cut out the chance of mis-connecting. Even if AA offered to open up space on their metal in F not sure it's worth it if I have to connect I'm assuming AA will refund the difference of the 80k F awards and 60k J awards? I would think they would but I could also see that being a HUCA situation
#2527




Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: TYO / WAS / NYC
Programs: American Express got a hit man lookin' for me
Posts: 5,253
AA doesn't offer F to Japan any more, so that won't be an option. Re-routing through DFW ought to be an option based on comments above in this thread, not sure whether the voluntary overnight layover complicates things though.
(But this reference reminded me of my very first trip to Japan in the summer of 1999, flying in F on an AA MD-11 from DFW to KIX, with 2-2-2 lie-flat seating...)
(But this reference reminded me of my very first trip to Japan in the summer of 1999, flying in F on an AA MD-11 from DFW to KIX, with 2-2-2 lie-flat seating...)
#2528


Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: AA EXP and Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,063
AA doesn't offer F to Japan any more, so that won't be an option. Re-routing through DFW ought to be an option based on comments above in this thread, not sure whether the voluntary overnight layover complicates things though.
(But this reference reminded me of my very first trip to Japan in the summer of 1999, flying in F on an AA MD-11 from DFW to KIX, with 2-2-2 lie-flat seating...)
(But this reference reminded me of my very first trip to Japan in the summer of 1999, flying in F on an AA MD-11 from DFW to KIX, with 2-2-2 lie-flat seating...)
#2530




Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 122
We've had our August ORD-NRT-ORD F redemptions moved by 2h and 9 hours. The way back was actually advantageous and we are now able to depart from HND instead of NRT and also leave 5h earlier. I was able to change on the JAL app and then call AA to reissue.
The issue I'm having is ORD-NRT has been downgraded to a 788 and we're now in the bulkhead center seats in J. The JAL app is allowing me the same option to switch to the later flight in F on the 777, but that arrives in Tokyo at 5:30pm vs 1:15pm. If I chat/call JAL will they allow me a one stop routing thru Dallas to then be able to try the A350 First class? I'd want to fly the night before and overnight in Dallas if that matters.
Most likely I'll probably just downgrade and take the nonstop just to cut out the chance of mis-connecting. Even if AA offered to open up space on their metal in F not sure it's worth it if I have to connect I'm assuming AA will refund the difference of the 80k F awards and 60k J awards? I would think they would but I could also see that being a HUCA situation
The issue I'm having is ORD-NRT has been downgraded to a 788 and we're now in the bulkhead center seats in J. The JAL app is allowing me the same option to switch to the later flight in F on the 777, but that arrives in Tokyo at 5:30pm vs 1:15pm. If I chat/call JAL will they allow me a one stop routing thru Dallas to then be able to try the A350 First class? I'd want to fly the night before and overnight in Dallas if that matters.
Most likely I'll probably just downgrade and take the nonstop just to cut out the chance of mis-connecting. Even if AA offered to open up space on their metal in F not sure it's worth it if I have to connect I'm assuming AA will refund the difference of the 80k F awards and 60k J awards? I would think they would but I could also see that being a HUCA situation
#2531




Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: NYC/DC
Programs: AA, Bonvoy, Delta, Amtrak, JB
Posts: 1,840
Thank you very much for this tip and I was able to change to the desired flight directly on the JAL website. I honestly hadn't even contemplated this approach as I always expect having to discuss flight changes with the ticketing airline, hope for award bucket availability, etc. The change here was a far easier solution than I'd originally anticipated.
#2532




Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: NYC/DC
Programs: AA, Bonvoy, Delta, Amtrak, JB
Posts: 1,840
+1. JAL has been remarkably good at accommodating change requests based on its recent summer schedule retimings (a stark contrast to a year ago when they did the same thing and ignored us for over a month). This is especially relevant to many of us in this thread because both ORD flights saw significant schedule shifts, and they have been some of our most popular redemptions. I was actually offered the opportunity to switch to DFW (A350) from JL 10 (777), but I decided to stick with JL 10 because the 1p departure now gives me a perfect 3 hour layover in Chicago (enough time to get through customs + check-in and lounge without spending all day there).
Between this and AA adding a new midday ORD-JAX flight since I first booked, my ORD layover has dropped from 9, to 5, to 3 hours (i.e. an awful itinerary transformed itself into a great itinerary).
Between this and AA adding a new midday ORD-JAX flight since I first booked, my ORD layover has dropped from 9, to 5, to 3 hours (i.e. an awful itinerary transformed itself into a great itinerary).
#2533




Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: WAS
Posts: 1,700
I'm in a similar boat. JL F award ticket booked with AA. If I could get JL to move me to JFK or DFW instead of ORD would they leave the domestic AA segment to ORD and then i'd need to see if AA could reaccommodate me to DFW/JFK? in other words, go to JL first and seek that change and then AA? Seems antithetical to typical procedures which say go to ticketing carrier to resolve issues.
#2534




Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ORD
Programs: Once a somebody now a nobody
Posts: 593
Anyone have the best way (phone number) to call JAL? I tried the 800-525-3663 and it never even rings....just drops. I was going to try chat last night but was right before I was hitting the sack and didn't want to spend 2h chatting and end up not getting anywhere.
At this point if I can't get moved to the one stop on the JL A350 thru Dallas I'll just stick in J on the nonstop. To me the extra connection + hotel cost in DFW isn't worth it to fly AA F.
At this point if I can't get moved to the one stop on the JL A350 thru Dallas I'll just stick in J on the nonstop. To me the extra connection + hotel cost in DFW isn't worth it to fly AA F.
#2535




Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 122
Anyone have the best way (phone number) to call JAL? I tried the 800-525-3663 and it never even rings....just drops. I was going to try chat last night but was right before I was hitting the sack and didn't want to spend 2h chatting and end up not getting anywhere.
At this point if I can't get moved to the one stop on the JL A350 thru Dallas I'll just stick in J on the nonstop. To me the extra connection + hotel cost in DFW isn't worth it to fly AA F.
At this point if I can't get moved to the one stop on the JL A350 thru Dallas I'll just stick in J on the nonstop. To me the extra connection + hotel cost in DFW isn't worth it to fly AA F.



