Gold Guest List (GGL) Beginner's Guide
#961


Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,959
If you land on 20th March I would guess any bonus points wouldn’t post until 27-29th March at the earliest. You will certainly become GGL but I wouldn’t count on being able to use the Jokers. I’d call the GGL line as soon as your status changes (the number will be in the email I think) and explain the situation.
#962




Join Date: Feb 2024
Posts: 23
To retain GGL, 40,000 TPs are required, at least 32,000 TPs should be earned through British Airways-marketed flights.
I can earn 2,500 TPs by BA Amex spending.
It left only 5,500 TPs for me to earn through travelling with other non-BA marketed flights.
I usally travel the LHR-HND route. I found that for the JAL operated flight with BA-marketed (BA coded) are much more expensive than the JAL operated flight without BA-marketed (only JAL coded). I don't think I will pay the extra money to earn extra TPs. What I can think is that, I will make the future booking by BA Holiday, so the tax and charges will be counted. Do you all have any more ideas to maximize TPs? Thank you.
I can earn 2,500 TPs by BA Amex spending.
It left only 5,500 TPs for me to earn through travelling with other non-BA marketed flights.
I usally travel the LHR-HND route. I found that for the JAL operated flight with BA-marketed (BA coded) are much more expensive than the JAL operated flight without BA-marketed (only JAL coded). I don't think I will pay the extra money to earn extra TPs. What I can think is that, I will make the future booking by BA Holiday, so the tax and charges will be counted. Do you all have any more ideas to maximize TPs? Thank you.
#963




Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: UK, TX, UAE
Programs: BA GGL, FB Ult, BA Amex Prem, Amex Plat, Hilton Diamond, Mucci
Posts: 6,423
To retain GGL, 40,000 TPs are required, at least 32,000 TPs should be earned through British Airways-marketed flights.
I can earn 2,500 TPs by BA Amex spending.
It left only 5,500 TPs for me to earn through travelling with other non-BA marketed flights.
I usally travel the LHR-HND route. I found that for the JAL operated flight with BA-marketed (BA coded) are much more expensive than the JAL operated flight without BA-marketed (only JAL coded). I don't think I will pay the extra money to earn extra TPs. What I can think is that, I will make the future booking by BA Holiday, so the tax and charges will be counted. Do you all have any more ideas to maximize TPs? Thank you.
I can earn 2,500 TPs by BA Amex spending.
It left only 5,500 TPs for me to earn through travelling with other non-BA marketed flights.
I usally travel the LHR-HND route. I found that for the JAL operated flight with BA-marketed (BA coded) are much more expensive than the JAL operated flight without BA-marketed (only JAL coded). I don't think I will pay the extra money to earn extra TPs. What I can think is that, I will make the future booking by BA Holiday, so the tax and charges will be counted. Do you all have any more ideas to maximize TPs? Thank you.
#964




Join Date: Feb 2024
Posts: 23
Yes, BA Holidays will work well in this regard, buy an expensive suite at a hotel (if BAH actually offer one) and you hardly have to do any flying. This was almost certainly their intention. Other things to do are obviously to maximise the price of tickets- avoid Saturday night stays, tick the box for flexible conditions. TP running has certainly turned upside down!
I have the Marriott Ambassador Elite status. If I book the hotel in BAH package, it will be up to the hotel to recognize the membership benefits, which will be most likely not. In the new regime, is the 5 nights requirement been removed? I want to add a dummy hotel to the BAH package, so the tax and charges can be counted. I would like to know more about "tick the box for flexible conditions". What does it mean?
Thank you again for your help.
#965


Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: BCT. Formerly known as attorney28
Programs: LH LT SEN,BA GGL GfL,Hyatt LT Gl,Mrtt LT P,HH LT D,IHG D-Amb,Acc D,GHA T,LHW A,Sixt/Av/Hz D/Pres
Posts: 6,947
I'm still GGL until 04/26. Last year, I did more than 8k tier points.
Is my understanding correct that I got two "jokers" upon requalification last time? Plus one GUF2. I requalified already (my year would have normally ended in June). Am about to be at 3,500 tier points, and I think I will stop there (so two GUF1 incoming at 3,500 tiere opints).
So I guess I will get two more "jokers" in April? But do I need to use the two previous jokers before 04/25? I think they expire, right? They are not shown in the account.
After many months, BA finally responded to me when I asked to be offered to select something at 7k and 8k last year.
I'm sitting on roughly 1.5 million household Avios.
What should I select? Two more "jokers"? But then I would have 4 now, plus 2 more after April? Or should I select two more GUF2?
I am mostly done with BA. Am GfL and have no interest in spending another 900k GBP to reach GGL for Life. Will focus on just requalifying for HON every year.
I just want to burn the 1.5m Avios (family of four), probably for some roundtrip in F from the US to the Maldives via London or something.
Any advice on what to pick as the 7k/8k benefits? Thank you.
Edit: Or is there something else that is useful that I could/should transfer the Avios into?
Is my understanding correct that I got two "jokers" upon requalification last time? Plus one GUF2. I requalified already (my year would have normally ended in June). Am about to be at 3,500 tier points, and I think I will stop there (so two GUF1 incoming at 3,500 tiere opints).
So I guess I will get two more "jokers" in April? But do I need to use the two previous jokers before 04/25? I think they expire, right? They are not shown in the account.
After many months, BA finally responded to me when I asked to be offered to select something at 7k and 8k last year.
I'm sitting on roughly 1.5 million household Avios.
What should I select? Two more "jokers"? But then I would have 4 now, plus 2 more after April? Or should I select two more GUF2?
I am mostly done with BA. Am GfL and have no interest in spending another 900k GBP to reach GGL for Life. Will focus on just requalifying for HON every year.
I just want to burn the 1.5m Avios (family of four), probably for some roundtrip in F from the US to the Maldives via London or something.
Any advice on what to pick as the 7k/8k benefits? Thank you.
Edit: Or is there something else that is useful that I could/should transfer the Avios into?
#966




Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: UK, TX, UAE
Programs: BA GGL, FB Ult, BA Amex Prem, Amex Plat, Hilton Diamond, Mucci
Posts: 6,423
I'm still GGL until 04/26. Last year, I did more than 8k tier points.
Is my understanding correct that I got two "jokers" upon requalification last time? Plus one GUF2. I requalified already (my year would have normally ended in June). Am about to be at 3,500 tier points, and I think I will stop there (so two GUF1 incoming at 3,500 tiere opints).
So I guess I will get two more "jokers" in April? But do I need to use the two previous jokers before 04/25? I think they expire, right? They are not shown in the account.
After many months, BA finally responded to me when I asked to be offered to select something at 7k and 8k last year.
I'm sitting on roughly 1.5 million household Avios.
What should I select? Two more "jokers"? But then I would have 4 now, plus 2 more after April? Or should I select two more GUF2?
I am mostly done with BA. Am GfL and have no interest in spending another 900k GBP to reach GGL for Life. Will focus on just requalifying for HON every year.
I just want to burn the 1.5m Avios (family of four), probably for some roundtrip in F from the US to the Maldives via London or something.
Any advice on what to pick as the 7k/8k benefits? Thank you.
Edit: Or is there something else that is useful that I could/should transfer the Avios into?
Is my understanding correct that I got two "jokers" upon requalification last time? Plus one GUF2. I requalified already (my year would have normally ended in June). Am about to be at 3,500 tier points, and I think I will stop there (so two GUF1 incoming at 3,500 tiere opints).
So I guess I will get two more "jokers" in April? But do I need to use the two previous jokers before 04/25? I think they expire, right? They are not shown in the account.
After many months, BA finally responded to me when I asked to be offered to select something at 7k and 8k last year.
I'm sitting on roughly 1.5 million household Avios.
What should I select? Two more "jokers"? But then I would have 4 now, plus 2 more after April? Or should I select two more GUF2?
I am mostly done with BA. Am GfL and have no interest in spending another 900k GBP to reach GGL for Life. Will focus on just requalifying for HON every year.
I just want to burn the 1.5m Avios (family of four), probably for some roundtrip in F from the US to the Maldives via London or something.
Any advice on what to pick as the 7k/8k benefits? Thank you.
Edit: Or is there something else that is useful that I could/should transfer the Avios into?
My feeling on extra awards was that the GUFs were the best use of them, particularly if travelling F as the fare bucket is the same as a Joker (A) without having to use a Joker. Having said that I have ended up with loads of unused ones over the past couple of years although now in the situation where I doubt I will ever get another x2 GUF1s again. If you are going to be able to burn through Avios then perhaps 50k would be useful?
Last edited by golfmad; Jan 20, 2025 at 11:53 pm Reason: Edited out the circular reference after moving to this thread
#967




Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: UK, TX, UAE
Programs: BA GGL, FB Ult, BA Amex Prem, Amex Plat, Hilton Diamond, Mucci
Posts: 6,423
Thank you very much for your reply.
I have the Marriott Ambassador Elite status. If I book the hotel in BAH package, it will be up to the hotel to recognize the membership benefits, which will be most likely not. In the new regime, is the 5 nights requirement been removed? I want to add a dummy hotel to the BAH package, so the tax and charges can be counted. I would like to know more about "tick the box for flexible conditions". What does it mean?
Thank you again for your help.
I have the Marriott Ambassador Elite status. If I book the hotel in BAH package, it will be up to the hotel to recognize the membership benefits, which will be most likely not. In the new regime, is the 5 nights requirement been removed? I want to add a dummy hotel to the BAH package, so the tax and charges can be counted. I would like to know more about "tick the box for flexible conditions". What does it mean?
Thank you again for your help.
#968




Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL GfL, AF Plat, LH Sen, AA Plat Pro, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,788
I'm still GGL until 04/26. Last year, I did more than 8k tier points.
Is my understanding correct that I got two "jokers" upon requalification last time? Plus one GUF2. I requalified already (my year would have normally ended in June). Am about to be at 3,500 tier points, and I think I will stop there (so two GUF1 incoming at 3,500 tiere opints).
So I guess I will get two more "jokers" in April? But do I need to use the two previous jokers before 04/25? I think they expire, right? They are not shown in the account.
After many months, BA finally responded to me when I asked to be offered to select something at 7k and 8k last year.
I'm sitting on roughly 1.5 million household Avios.
What should I select? Two more "jokers"? But then I would have 4 now, plus 2 more after April? Or should I select two more GUF2?
I am mostly done with BA. Am GfL and have no interest in spending another 900k GBP to reach GGL for Life. Will focus on just requalifying for HON every year.
I just want to burn the 1.5m Avios (family of four), probably for some roundtrip in F from the US to the Maldives via London or something.
Any advice on what to pick as the 7k/8k benefits? Thank you.
Edit: Or is there something else that is useful that I could/should transfer the Avios into?
Is my understanding correct that I got two "jokers" upon requalification last time? Plus one GUF2. I requalified already (my year would have normally ended in June). Am about to be at 3,500 tier points, and I think I will stop there (so two GUF1 incoming at 3,500 tiere opints).
So I guess I will get two more "jokers" in April? But do I need to use the two previous jokers before 04/25? I think they expire, right? They are not shown in the account.
After many months, BA finally responded to me when I asked to be offered to select something at 7k and 8k last year.
I'm sitting on roughly 1.5 million household Avios.
What should I select? Two more "jokers"? But then I would have 4 now, plus 2 more after April? Or should I select two more GUF2?
I am mostly done with BA. Am GfL and have no interest in spending another 900k GBP to reach GGL for Life. Will focus on just requalifying for HON every year.
I just want to burn the 1.5m Avios (family of four), probably for some roundtrip in F from the US to the Maldives via London or something.
Any advice on what to pick as the 7k/8k benefits? Thank you.
Edit: Or is there something else that is useful that I could/should transfer the Avios into?
I've cleared out my Avios balance in much the same way since the changes were announced. An F return and a CW return for 4 of us cleared out something like 800k Avios and that was with 4 x 241 vouchers and 8 GUFs.
Didn't use any jokers though as the GUF vouchers opened the class we needed.
I'll mop up the rest as I go through 2025 and then I'm probably coming to join you in HON from late 2026.
#969



Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: SEA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL, Delta Platinum, Hyatt Globalist, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 337
Emails are getting "stuck" and then eventually released in batches to the team, so more than likely your email will reach them, but it could take anywhere from a few days to a week. And if it hits them on a day they get deluged with a week's worth of emails, it will understandably take some time to respond to.
MY recent emails don't even generate the response asking for security information, but they seem to respond anyway. But, I would advise including the answers in your initial email, otherwise you may never get a response.
MY recent emails don't even generate the response asking for security information, but they seem to respond anyway. But, I would advise including the answers in your initial email, otherwise you may never get a response.
If I call them are they able to look up my email and see what, if anything, has happened?
With the TP economics changing for GFL I was scrolling through past flights and found a segment in BA F that got Avios but 0 TPs. Unfortunately it is pretty old (2019) so I suspect it will be hard to get back, but I still expect a response. Even if it is simply a no or better, we are looking into it.
#970
formerly wchinchen



Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Honolulu
Programs: AA CK, EK Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,429
Are other GGLs finding very slow email response times? I emailed the priority GGL team back on Jan 8 and followed up with more information on Jan 15, but have had zero response.
If I call them are they able to look up my email and see what, if anything, has happened?
With the TP economics changing for GFL I was scrolling through past flights and found a segment in BA F that got Avios but 0 TPs. Unfortunately it is pretty old (2019) so I suspect it will be hard to get back, but I still expect a response. Even if it is simply a no or better, we are looking into it.
If I call them are they able to look up my email and see what, if anything, has happened?
With the TP economics changing for GFL I was scrolling through past flights and found a segment in BA F that got Avios but 0 TPs. Unfortunately it is pretty old (2019) so I suspect it will be hard to get back, but I still expect a response. Even if it is simply a no or better, we are looking into it.
I've submitted an email yesterday too, and obtained a reply in less than 24 hours related to a reservation, but it wasn't Avios/TP related.
#971




Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Programs: Marriott Ambassador (Titanium Lifetime), BA GGL (one year only, natural Gold), HH Diamond, Ex-BD*G,
Posts: 3,716
So, I've browsed thru the thread, though not every post and wanted to see the rules for the GGL joker. It talks about a return flight, does that mean it is valid for a maximum of two legs?
For context, I will make GGL for the first and last time in about a month (I won't survive the subsequent cull as my earning is 90% on partners). I live in Asia (HKG), and family group of 3 will also end up with about 6xGUF2 and 4xGUF1 by 1 April, to which I'd add 3 jokers (plus another 2 after April). You can tell I've not been doing a great job of spending avios, I've been using cash as I've got about 1.5m Avios to burn.
I seem to recall the GUFs are valid for up to 4 legs. From reading the thread I'm starting to feel the jokers aren't as valuable to me really as all those GUFs could do the same to get me space in A class.
My ambition is probably to book something like KUL/SIN-LHR, then on to the USA in First during the early summer. If it gets us more I could probably throw a few days in the middle east there too (e.g. Nested returns of SIN-LHR-BAH // BAH-LHR-ORD)
Any thoughts, it seems I may as well book now, as I don't need the jokers? Or do they give me something else extra? Maybe I throw in my parents too so we use 5 rather than 3 seats (if I can find that many A seats), making the jokers useful again?
Appreciate your thoughts.
For context, I will make GGL for the first and last time in about a month (I won't survive the subsequent cull as my earning is 90% on partners). I live in Asia (HKG), and family group of 3 will also end up with about 6xGUF2 and 4xGUF1 by 1 April, to which I'd add 3 jokers (plus another 2 after April). You can tell I've not been doing a great job of spending avios, I've been using cash as I've got about 1.5m Avios to burn.
I seem to recall the GUFs are valid for up to 4 legs. From reading the thread I'm starting to feel the jokers aren't as valuable to me really as all those GUFs could do the same to get me space in A class.
My ambition is probably to book something like KUL/SIN-LHR, then on to the USA in First during the early summer. If it gets us more I could probably throw a few days in the middle east there too (e.g. Nested returns of SIN-LHR-BAH // BAH-LHR-ORD)
Any thoughts, it seems I may as well book now, as I don't need the jokers? Or do they give me something else extra? Maybe I throw in my parents too so we use 5 rather than 3 seats (if I can find that many A seats), making the jokers useful again?
Appreciate your thoughts.
#972




Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL GfL, AF Plat, LH Sen, AA Plat Pro, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,788
So, I've browsed thru the thread, though not every post and wanted to see the rules for the GGL joker. It talks about a return flight, does that mean it is valid for a maximum of two legs?
For context, I will make GGL for the first and last time in about a month (I won't survive the subsequent cull as my earning is 90% on partners). I live in Asia (HKG), and family group of 3 will also end up with about 6xGUF2 and 4xGUF1 by 1 April, to which I'd add 3 jokers (plus another 2 after April). You can tell I've not been doing a great job of spending avios, I've been using cash as I've got about 1.5m Avios to burn.
I seem to recall the GUFs are valid for up to 4 legs. From reading the thread I'm starting to feel the jokers aren't as valuable to me really as all those GUFs could do the same to get me space in A class.
My ambition is probably to book something like KUL/SIN-LHR, then on to the USA in First during the early summer. If it gets us more I could probably throw a few days in the middle east there too (e.g. Nested returns of SIN-LHR-BAH // BAH-LHR-ORD)
Any thoughts, it seems I may as well book now, as I don't need the jokers? Or do they give me something else extra? Maybe I throw in my parents too so we use 5 rather than 3 seats (if I can find that many A seats), making the jokers useful again?
Appreciate your thoughts.
For context, I will make GGL for the first and last time in about a month (I won't survive the subsequent cull as my earning is 90% on partners). I live in Asia (HKG), and family group of 3 will also end up with about 6xGUF2 and 4xGUF1 by 1 April, to which I'd add 3 jokers (plus another 2 after April). You can tell I've not been doing a great job of spending avios, I've been using cash as I've got about 1.5m Avios to burn.
I seem to recall the GUFs are valid for up to 4 legs. From reading the thread I'm starting to feel the jokers aren't as valuable to me really as all those GUFs could do the same to get me space in A class.
My ambition is probably to book something like KUL/SIN-LHR, then on to the USA in First during the early summer. If it gets us more I could probably throw a few days in the middle east there too (e.g. Nested returns of SIN-LHR-BAH // BAH-LHR-ORD)
Any thoughts, it seems I may as well book now, as I don't need the jokers? Or do they give me something else extra? Maybe I throw in my parents too so we use 5 rather than 3 seats (if I can find that many A seats), making the jokers useful again?
Appreciate your thoughts.
As for legs, it's a return booking. So HKG-LHR-LAX-LHR-HKG would be fine, for example. If you want to stop in LHR in either direction, then stopovers are limited to 14 days, or it's classed as a new trip and you'd need to use another Joker.
If you're looking to fly in First then yes the GUF vouchers would open A class so you wouldn't need the Jokers. However, if you want to fly CW then the GUF only opens I class, whereas the Joker will open all classes up to and including D class - giving you much more flexibility when flying Club.
For me, Jokers are valuable for European trips. Trying to get to Geneva during February half term? Can be north of Ł1k return in Economy for a 1hr flight, or a joker and a hand full of Avios.
But yes, for you being Asia based you won't benefit from that one.
#973




Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson VIP, FB Gold, LH Sen, Hertz Gold
Posts: 6,485
Anyone else having fun and games with partner card gifting at the moment?
My Gold nomination has been stuck in the system for over a month - telling me I need to change the email address of the recipient (as apparently it's already registered??!! Of course it is as it's her correct email address!!).
And one of my silver nominations is being told to check his profile details on ba.com but it isn't letting him past that screen, although all is confirmed as OK... It's such a mess.
My Gold nomination has been stuck in the system for over a month - telling me I need to change the email address of the recipient (as apparently it's already registered??!! Of course it is as it's her correct email address!!).
And one of my silver nominations is being told to check his profile details on ba.com but it isn't letting him past that screen, although all is confirmed as OK... It's such a mess.
#974
FlyerTalk Posting Legend and Ambassador: The British Airways Club




Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, HH Diamond
Posts: 48,310
Anyone else having fun and games with partner card gifting at the moment?
My Gold nomination has been stuck in the system for over a month - telling me I need to change the email address of the recipient (as apparently it's already registered??!! Of course it is as it's her correct email address!!).
And one of my silver nominations is being told to check his profile details on ba.com but it isn't letting him past that screen, although all is confirmed as OK... It's such a mess.
My Gold nomination has been stuck in the system for over a month - telling me I need to change the email address of the recipient (as apparently it's already registered??!! Of course it is as it's her correct email address!!).
And one of my silver nominations is being told to check his profile details on ba.com but it isn't letting him past that screen, although all is confirmed as OK... It's such a mess.
#975




Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson VIP, FB Gold, LH Sen, Hertz Gold
Posts: 6,485
So I did call - the lady on the GGL line did say that it has to be done manually by another team. it seems that ba.com is trying to do the right thing but its UI ends up getting stuck in a loop. Lack of testing yet again.

