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Seat configs and tail numbers for the new aircraft joining 2023 onwards -

B777-200LR (Ex-Delta) - VT-AEE/F/G/H/I
C28 W48 Y212 (Delta One Suite) - Seatmap
Routes - ~~BOM-SFO, BLR-SFO~~, ~~DEL-SFO~~
Jan 2025 update - Almost all these planes have been returned to the lessor and are no longer with AI

B777-300ER (Ex-Etihad) - VT-AEQ/R/M/N/O/P
F8 C40 Y280 - Seatmap
Routes - BOM-EWR, BOM-JFK, BOM-LHR

A350-900 - VT-JRA/B/E/F/H/I
C28 W24 Y264 (Aeroflot interiors with suites in Business) - Seatmap
Routes - DEL-LHR. DEL-JFK (1st Nov 2024 onwards), DEL-EWR (2nd Jan 2025 onwards)

B777-300ER (known to be minor refreshed) - VT-ALJ/K/S/T/U
Routes - changing frequently so consult tracking sites for current deployment schedule by tail number.

Here is a very neat tool to track which aircraft has been flying routes historically - TrackMySeat

AI B777 Fleet adjustments (Refurb B77W, Retire B77L, Lease B77E)

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Dec 20, 2023 | 9:35 pm

#181

Anish

Join Date: Apr 2011

Location: Goa, India

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Yes the Etihad 77Ws have 2 rows and AI 77Ws have 1 row.

Dec 22, 2023 | 5:16 am

#182

kodalip

Join Date: May 2022

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Sorry if this has been answered but which Europe-India routes have newer planes with at least half decent hard product?

Dec 22, 2023 | 8:09 am

#183

Anish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kodalip

Sorry if this has been answered but which Europe-India routes have newer planes with at least half decent hard product?

LHR-BOM has the ex-EY product, nothing else at the moment.

Also updated the Wiki with the routes the new planes are flying at the moment.

Dec 28, 2023 | 5:54 am

#184

SentinelPrime

Join Date: Nov 2021

Programs: Skywards, Maharaja Club, Qatar Airways, Marriot Bonvoy

Posts: 28

Today AI-111 was operated using VT-ALR. Can anyone confirm the origin of this aircraft? Is this an ex EY, SQ or the OG AI 777?
And does anyone know which aircraft are being used to operate this route consistently?

Dec 28, 2023 | 7:27 am

#185

SuperFlyBoy

Join Date: Sep 2005

Location: BOM-WAW-EWR

Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, AC*G, LH FTL, AI*G *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SentinelPrime

A quick search shows this: https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...r-india/3806vz

Dec 29, 2023 | 8:57 am

#186

mehtaym

Join Date: Mar 2008

Posts: 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anish

Sure, I'll get started with the new planes!

B777-200LR (Ex-Delta) - VT-AEE/F/G/H/I
C28 W48 Y212 (Delta One Suite) - Seatmap

B777-300ER (Ex-Etihad) - VT-AEQ/R/M/N/O/P
F8 C40 Y280 - Seatmap

B777-300ER (Ex-Singapore Airlines) - VT-?
F4 C48 W28 Y184 - Seatmap

A350-900 - VT-JRA/B/E/F/H/I
C28 W24 Y264 (Aeroflot interiors with suites in Business) - Seatmap

Please feel free to add info/edit any mistakes

The BOM-JFK flights are using the B777-200LR (ex-Delta), correct?
On those, are the seats "lie flat" in business/J?

Dec 29, 2023 | 9:48 am

#187

Anish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mehtaym

The BOM-JFK flights are using the B777-200LR (ex-Delta), correct?
On those, are the seats "lie flat" in business/J?

Yes. Google Delta One Suite for cabin pictures.

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Dec 29, 2023 | 11:04 am

#188

mehtaym

Join Date: Mar 2008

Posts: 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anish

I meant to include this also in my previous question -
Are any of these newer planes used on BOM-EWR non-stop filghts? Or is it the old/original AI planes on this route?

Dec 29, 2023 | 7:24 pm

#189

PiperAtGatesofDawn

Join Date: Jul 2017

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mehtaym

I meant to include this also in my previous question -
Are any of these newer planes used on BOM-EWR non-stop filghts? Or is it the old/original AI planes on this route?

All the planes flying BOM - US are new planes.

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Dec 31, 2023 | 8:19 am

#190

kodalip

Join Date: May 2022

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How often is DEL-SFO the new delta plane?

Dec 31, 2023 | 8:20 am

#191

skyye_99

Join Date: Nov 2023

Posts: 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anish

We don't have delivery dates for the remainder of the EY and the SQ planes, do we?

Dec 31, 2023 | 9:24 am

#192

SeeBuyFly

Join Date: Dec 2004

Posts: 5,814

Any chance of new planes on DEL-ORD in summer 2024? (Probably not.)

It must cost them a lot of money in loan interest or opportunity cost to lease all these planes and keep them parked.

Jan 3, 2024 | 1:32 am

#193

PiperAtGatesofDawn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kodalip

How often is DEL-SFO the new delta plane?

I think that's the AI 183 that flies Tues/Thurs/Sat in both directions.

The daily is the older AI 77W.

Jan 3, 2024 | 2:05 am

#194

oliver2002

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Location: MUC

Programs: LH SEN

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeBuyFly

Any chance of new planes on DEL-ORD in summer 2024? (Probably not.)
It must cost them a lot of money in loan interest or opportunity cost to lease all these planes and keep them parked.

The existing B777 fleet will go for refurb in AMM this summer. The leased aircraft will take over the operations for the ones that are in the cabin retrofit. Opening new routes and frequencies now makes no sense if you don't have the equipment (and crews) to operate them later. Having some extra spares to stabilize operations isn't so bad either.

Jan 4, 2024 | 6:41 am

#195

SeeBuyFly

Join Date: Dec 2004

Posts: 5,814

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiperAtGatesofDawn

And it's quite a change to hear that AI is more competitive than ME3 fares. Usually they play on their direct to India/US card and have a price premium...

AI does multiple pricing the old-fashioned way...they offer a few seats on each flight as web specials, and if they are sold the price jumps to the next level, then to the next, etc. So if web specials haven't sold out the price is low.