The points and miles blog business model
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[QUOTE= George has endured it all and should desire a merit award for perseverance!
Anyway his blog is the reality check we all need if we are swept away by the tsunami of echochamber of pumping BBB: Bask / Bilt / Brex[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I really appreciate that. Is it perseverance or just complete stupidity...I am not so sure. April to date has brought in $85 so far...how am I going to deduct my $395 Capital One VentureX fee this way huh? If this persists...IRS will say my blog is a hobby...oh, let's not go there :-)
Anyway his blog is the reality check we all need if we are swept away by the tsunami of echochamber of pumping BBB: Bask / Bilt / Brex[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I really appreciate that. Is it perseverance or just complete stupidity...I am not so sure. April to date has brought in $85 so far...how am I going to deduct my $395 Capital One VentureX fee this way huh? If this persists...IRS will say my blog is a hobby...oh, let's not go there :-)
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Actually, does Amazon serve ads? I thought it was $ from product affiliate links...My sister in law, I am sure, was responsible for 90% of the revenue of that, very low triple digits every month, they like to shop a lot on Amazon in New Jersey :-)
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And from the thoughtleader himself:
https://viewfromthewing.com/what-are...-travel-sites/
Yet the comments are more illuminating....factoring:
tips vs tabloids
comments vs no comments
reviews vs experiences
https://viewfromthewing.com/what-are...-travel-sites/
Yet the comments are more illuminating....factoring:
tips vs tabloids
comments vs no comments
reviews vs experiences
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And from the thoughtleader himself:
https://viewfromthewing.com/what-are...-travel-sites/
Yet the comments are more illuminating....factoring:
tips vs tabloids
comments vs no comments
reviews vs experiences
https://viewfromthewing.com/what-are...-travel-sites/
Yet the comments are more illuminating....factoring:
tips vs tabloids
comments vs no comments
reviews vs experiences
there is no way FT is only at 2.8m.
David
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The only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself.
Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)
(Attribution to Churchill is ironically falsified)
Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)
(Attribution to Churchill is ironically falsified)
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Churchill was right, a strong sense of thoughtleadering:
https://nl-m-wikipedia-org.translate...n&_x_tr_pto=sc
in orginal Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wij_va...iseren_Wc-eend
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to keep in line with the topic at hand,
some travel blogs are more personality driven and give a peek of lifestyle,
this can be done without ads of nonstop creditcards hawking,
but in the way of tie ups sponsorship with brands/hotels,
promoting an own book, very self-concious promo images, the usual referal link to a brand,
https://pierreblake.com/how-to-trave...-1500-a-month/
Note no words: Brex/Bilt/Bask/Chase/CapitalOne/CreditCards etc...
Yet the question remains how impartial are these experiences ......
on the other end of the spectrum are those utilising a similair model as the US-titans of BA:
https://www.myglobalviewpoint.com/travel-blog-salary/
https://nl-m-wikipedia-org.translate...n&_x_tr_pto=sc
in orginal Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wij_va...iseren_Wc-eend
------
to keep in line with the topic at hand,
some travel blogs are more personality driven and give a peek of lifestyle,
this can be done without ads of nonstop creditcards hawking,
but in the way of tie ups sponsorship with brands/hotels,
promoting an own book, very self-concious promo images, the usual referal link to a brand,
https://pierreblake.com/how-to-trave...-1500-a-month/
Note no words: Brex/Bilt/Bask/Chase/CapitalOne/CreditCards etc...
Yet the question remains how impartial are these experiences ......
on the other end of the spectrum are those utilising a similair model as the US-titans of BA:
https://www.myglobalviewpoint.com/travel-blog-salary/
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This guy looks like he’s just spamming Bluehost links which pay ludicrously well. Whether you can trust the rest of it is a different question given that the whole point of the piece is to sell you a hosting contract.
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and about solid information and sources ....
even though one can slap a face on a blog,
if fundamentally the information is wrong,
the blog is nothing than a shrewd sales attempt aimed to the uniformed .....
read :
https://www.myglobalviewpoint.com/be...fly-to-europe/
Even though it says 2023 updated
Ahum: Norwegian kinda went bust longhaul and is now in a way reincarnated asNorse Atlantic .....
As Raffles mentioned .... some travel blogs are not so trustworthy....
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the blog is nothing than a shrewd sales attempt aimed to the uniformed ....
True for the vast majority of blogs about the "hobby"
True for the vast majority of blogs about the "hobby"
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Understand completely about trust....
and about solid information and sources ....
even though one can slap a face on a blog,
if fundamentally the information is wrong,
the blog is nothing than a shrewd sales attempt aimed to the uniformed .....
read :
https://www.myglobalviewpoint.com/be...fly-to-europe/
Even though it says 2023 updated
Ahum: Norwegian kinda went bust longhaul and is now in a way reincarnated asNorse Atlantic .....
As Raffles mentioned .... some travel blogs are not so trustworthy....
and about solid information and sources ....
even though one can slap a face on a blog,
if fundamentally the information is wrong,
the blog is nothing than a shrewd sales attempt aimed to the uniformed .....
read :
https://www.myglobalviewpoint.com/be...fly-to-europe/
Even though it says 2023 updated
Ahum: Norwegian kinda went bust longhaul and is now in a way reincarnated asNorse Atlantic .....
As Raffles mentioned .... some travel blogs are not so trustworthy....
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The bigger problem to me now is that it's very hard to book anything premium on points these days, particularly flights. Nobody, OMAAT or anyone else, is really writing about that much, because it'd discourage credit card signups. But at this point I'm sitting on a ton of points and am mostly flying on paid fares or staying home.
to be fair, Live and Lets Fly has discussed the gutting of his preferred plan (United) and Ben and Gary frequently discuss the massive devaluations from multiple carrier (and Marriott).
what isn’t talked about is how difficult the exact premium cabin flight you want is to get on points with out huge surcharges. I was able to get business to Frankfurt out of sea for 50k Alaska miles and 50 bucks this summer but have to leave out of a near by city. My return will be 35k virgin points (plus $850) and then a domestic flight to the west coast, couldn’t find a Europe to west coast flight in business anywhere near my needed return date
what isn’t talked about is how difficult the exact premium cabin flight you want is to get on points with out huge surcharges. I was able to get business to Frankfurt out of sea for 50k Alaska miles and 50 bucks this summer but have to leave out of a near by city. My return will be 35k virgin points (plus $850) and then a domestic flight to the west coast, couldn’t find a Europe to west coast flight in business anywhere near my needed return date
for me, the biggest problem is these blogs greatly overvalue points. you cannot calculate value of a point as (cost of the same ticket* - surcharges)/total points required. at the very least, it is (max price one is willing to pay for a similar ticket* - surcharges)/total points required. one should also consider the opportunity costs, other costs associated with redeeming an award booking, and the lack of availability as you pointed out. a vastly different valuation could change the entire proposition these points and credit cards
another thing i feel is sorely missing is that fact that these blogs seldom point out that while redeeming j or f can give outsized value, you maybe paying for more than you intended to for your trip. people sometimes do not think of these points as cash equivalent, but that fact is they are, and people would have made other choices otherwise. e.g. a RT US-Asia qsuites saver maybe 190k + $500. some travel portals allow you to redeem points at 1.5 cents each, meaning that qsuite flight is about $3.3k. yes that is great value, but not everyone is willing to pay $3.3k for award flights. yeah, and i dont need to mention about advantage fares, which 380k + $500, which is about $6k, and i can easily find a comparable j class for cheaper than that (e.g. jal for less than $5k)
lastly, none of these blogs talked about the sustainability of cc giving out so many points. most recently, VX biz is giving out 750k points for $200k spend. biz card can also run through a lot of spend, hence they will accrue a lot points. SUBs for personal cards are also trending upwards, so idk how all of these are sustainable. too many and ever increasing amount of points and a limited pool of award is just a devaluation waiting to happen. but nobody talks about this because it will affect their commission. a larger SUB and an artificially high valuation of a point means that they can say wow this is a great value. they will milk it until they cant
all of these brings the wrong crowd in, and many lose out because they do not fully understand how to play the game. and it also makes it worse for everyone else.
*same ticket refers to same airline and timing, while similar ticket means a similar travel route on a comparable airline
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for me, the biggest problem is these blogs greatly overvalue points. you cannot calculate value of a point as (cost of the same ticket* - surcharges)/total points required. at the very least, it is (max price one is willing to pay for a similar ticket* - surcharges)/total points required. one should also consider the opportunity costs, other costs associated with redeeming an award booking, and the lack of availability as you pointed out. a vastly different valuation could change the entire proposition these points and credit cards
another thing i feel is sorely missing is that fact that these blogs seldom point out that while redeeming j or f can give outsized value, you maybe paying for more than you intended to for your trip. people sometimes do not think of these points as cash equivalent, but that fact is they are, and people would have made other choices otherwise. e.g. a RT US-Asia qsuites saver maybe 190k + $500. some travel portals allow you to redeem points at 1.5 cents each, meaning that qsuite flight is about $3.3k. yes that is great value, but not everyone is willing to pay $3.3k for award flights.
lastly, none of these blogs talked about the sustainability of cc giving out so many points. most recently, VX biz is giving out 750k points for $200k spend. biz card can also run through a lot of spend, hence they will accrue a lot points. SUBs for personal cards are also trending upwards, so idk how all of these are sustainable. too many and ever increasing amount of points and a limited pool of award is just a devaluation waiting to happen. but nobody talks about this because it will affect their commission. a larger SUB and an artificially high valuation of a point means that they can say wow this is a great value. they will milk it until they cant



