i'm all for this simply because of the separate access roads for proposed T9. anything to avoid world way around the morning/evening departure banks. hopefully (if this ever comes to fruition), UA will run p.s. flights out of T9.

FWIW, this is the original design concept for T9, circa 2000, clearly oriented to a domestic/regional operation for UA. Obviously, at the time, LAX was a very different operation for United.

Absolutely nothing useful from LAX. Looks like I will continue to avoid flying UA. Surely there are a few people on the west coast who enjoy going to Europe and do not want to stop by EWR on the way. I guess they don't mind ceding all of us to the LH group. It would be nice if they could at least add some PE seats to the premium transcon flight, as that is the only way I would even consider transiting in NY on a TATL. I wouldn't mind breaking up a flight in PE, but definitely not so in J.

They might exist in theory, but I have never once been able to book a TATL flight from LAX with the LAX-EWR segment in PE. It always comes back as a mixed class flight with the transcon in Y and the TATL in PE, regardless of the aircraft used.

UA is not losing revenue if pax are "ceded" to the LH group--they're all part of a revenue-sharing JV on TATL flights. The real benefit of having UA metal TATL is for elites--those of us with Plus Points to burn have a better time using them on UA metal than on LH group metal: you need to book a high fare bucket to be able to use Plus Points on LH, and you can't use them on LX/OS altogether.

I'm more familiar with SFO and SFO-EWR has 4-5 flights (out of 8) daily with PremiumPlus

Checking LAX-EWR (for next Monday) has 5 out of 8 with PremiumPlus

But try to get a transcon PremPlus on a TATL flight from LAX. I have been trying for a few years and I have never once seen one come up on UA or google flights, for a myriad of different routes.

a few year ago and today are different situations -- you will need routes with PremPlus but LAX-LHR/FRA there are multiple options thru multiple hubs and a few non-stops from SFO.

You seem to be missing the Mixed Cabin note. Try clicking on the flight info and tell me what you see.

Sorry, just posted hasty a page without double checking,
but here are LAX - LHR/FRA examples for a random date in Nov )so a little pricey) that are not mixed cabin -- they are there. IAs I said I look from SFO and there are readily available -- A trick that has worked for me is multi-city to specifically pick PremPlus -- I was able to construct LAX-EWR-CDG in PremPlus that did not appear in the normal search

Interesting that it only comes back as an A fare. Perhaps the issue is that they are not bothering to load the R fare into this search? Or perhaps there simply is no R fare on the LAX-EWR flight, even when it is available for the TATL segment, and that causes it to defer to B economy? Either way, there is limit to how much trouble the customer should need to go to in booking a flight. Since the LH group almost always has comparable flights available for booking on UA for the same or less price, it seems that UA has little interest in actually selling PE TATL trips to people in LA. I have utilized the multi-trip function successfully to recreate some fares I find on Google flights with good luck, but I have never been able to force a TATL transcon into PE on at least a dozen attempts, including a few in the last month. Perhaps they are finally starting to correct this issue, but I will reserve judgement for now. BTW, I did not state that I tried two years ago, I stated I have trying regularly for the last 2-3 years, and by trying I mean I am neurotically checking airfare on certain routes weekly if not more frequently. That said, the routes usually involve an intra-EU flight, so perhaps that third segment is the real culprit here, despite not affecting PE flight searches for LH/etc.

There hasn't been love for LAX for a long time. A hub in name only. Very disheartening for me, as LAX is my home base, to have to go through SFO many times knowing there is always a good chance of late arrival or late takeoff and it has nothing to do with the weather most of the time. They keep adding International flights out of Denver but nothing for LAX. I am shocked that they re-opened the Polaris Lounge.

LAX is also my home base, and I agree that it is a bit sad. I guess LA is oriented more as a Pacific hub, and while Australia is reopening, East Asia is still closed. LA is also a lot more competitive than SF, but on the plus side, lots of *A carriers also fly into LA.

I definitely agree with you about there are other carriers that fly non stop routes internationally out of LAX, As a United flyer however, when we talk Pacific, I can only think of Sydney and Tokyo that they fly into nonstop. Do not know if they will fly to Melbourne again. They have said they were going to resume LAX to LHR. We will see. 98% of the flights from the West Coast fly out of SFO. I am sure it is a competition thing. Obviously there was decision by United management to pull back at LAX. United at LAX years ago was the lead domestic carrier at LAX. They have scaled back both Internationally and domestically since that time.