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Marriott Bonvoy ‘Ambassador Elite’ Level : experiences (2020 and earlier)
#2191
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend




Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 102,617
On the contrary! I was speaking specifically to that particular individual. In the aforementioned scenario, a guest seemed to never get the bedding or pillows that were requested. Of course, I suspect it’s more about the hotels at which the guest stays, or about the manner in which the requests are made, but it’s imposible to know since the hotels are not identified. I absolutely agree that any luxury hotel should provide the bedding as requested.
Of course, I would not expect non-luxury hotels to often capably and reliably provide the bedding and pillow types as requested. The brand and hotel type for me would matter a lot. Without knowing the identity of the hotels, it is difficult if not impossible to ascertain how reasonable the requests might be.
If one never gets what is requested, as was suggestede by that particular guest, I’d think it was time to look for greener pastures. It’s commonly said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result; always requesting something that isn’t ever delivered would seem to qualify.
In your case, it seems completely reasonable—as you make your requests and they are delivered.
I don’t care much at all about lounges or most bedding/pillow options, but I’m all too aware how many others (if not most) care greatly about those.

If one is allergic to feathers, getting a feather-free (de-feathered) room is a health issue. I expect every hotel in every brand of a USA chain to be able to deliver pillows without feathers. However, I do remember once having a conversation with an assistant manager at a luxury property overseas where I was scheduled to stay for seven nights (FHR rate if you care) when the hotel claimed that their polyester pillows were being used by another guest and I replied that they should send the concierge out to buy some in a local store if necessary. BTW I got my featherfree pillows later that day.
#2192
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend




Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 102,617
I got an out of office automatic email response from my Ambassador that gave a different number from the one I used previously for the 24/7 Ambassador "team." Yesterday I tried both numbers (800 and 866) repeatedly and got a long recorded answer, but when it tried to transfer me to an agent, the thing rang about five times and then hung up on me before ever connecting to a human. There's also some new "press one if you're willing to answer a survey question at the end".
Today I got through to a human agent but was never forwarded to the survey at the end. The agent seemed grumpy and resistant to doing anything to help with my LC reservation. I guess I'll see at check in whether she actually did anything or not.
Still bad service.
Today I got through to a human agent but was never forwarded to the survey at the end. The agent seemed grumpy and resistant to doing anything to help with my LC reservation. I guess I'll see at check in whether she actually did anything or not.
Still bad service.
#2193




Join Date: May 2018
Location: Muscat/Doha/Manchester
Programs: Oman Air Gold, Qatar Airways Platinum, Marriott Ambassador, HH Diamond, GHA Black, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 478
I had really bad experiences with my ambassador at the start but to be honest he's turned a corner and started to show his value and at the same time showed me how bad the Marriott IT / Hotel adhering to the rules are ! I recently came back from St Regis Maldives, I got posted 19K points for my stay which seemed low considering how much I spent, I informed him, and he said he will look into it, he showed me how much the hotel inputted into the system my eligible spend, I couldnt find my folio so I asked him to reach out and do an audit and he did and he just came back and said I would be getting 48K points, which is great news but also extremely annoying that Marriott IT system didn't do a check on eligible spend and it has to be done manually which is where I assume the errors arise and makes me think how many times in the past the hotels have conned me out of points!!
#2194




Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP; Marriott Ambassador; Hyatt Globalist; B6 Mosaic
Posts: 53
On the spend side I qualified by a comfortable... and I don't think I've done anything prohibited or questionable in my years of Pre-Merger Marriott Platinum. I pretty much only use Marriott for work and the occasional point redemption while on vacation. So, unless spending almost every week last year Sunday-Thursday at the same hotel is questionable or prohibited... *shrug* Then again, they did make a royal hash of my account on August 18 and lost my entire history loyalty history (not the current year, just prior years). It took them 3 months to fix it. Or maybe the fact that last year I shifted my spend from 60-40 Marriott-Hyatt to 90-10? Who knows. Who cares any more? I've moved most of my spend off Marriott these days.
Last word I heard from Marriott was that all accounts are being reviewed in January and anyone who is determined to still qualify would hear from their assigned Ambassador no later than March 1, 2019. It is now March 21, and nothing from Marriott. Plus, the outstanding issue I had that I was attempting to resolve (Historical Reminder so you don't have to scroll up: I started asking who my Ambassador was specifically because I had a problem at a property that wasn't getting solved and I figured I'd try out this shiny new status I had and see if they could solve it.) is still outstanding.
#2195




Join Date: Oct 2015
Programs: AA: EXP, 1MM DL: Gold, 1MM Marriott: Ambassador, LTT
Posts: 467
A Modest Suggestion
I have been an Ambassador Elite since October of last year. I am not personally a huge proponent or detractor of the program mostly because I just haven't used it enough to fairly assign it an overall grade in my mind however reading this thread for the past 9 months and seeing the recent back and forth between @Bhrubin and @DenConsultMonkey has prompted me to finally write something down that I have been thinking about and I am reminded of every time I read this thread.
I would like to make the modest suggestion that the Ambassador Program, as currently constructed, is fundamentally and fatally flawed and ultimately doomed in its current incarnation primarily for two main reasons:
Now let me expand a bit on the two reasons why I believe the program, as currently constructed, is effectively doomed.
First, as far as never being able to consistently meet the fundamental service promise of Ambassador Elite to ALL its members, I think this should be obvious to anyone who reads this particular thread.. Sure, there is clearly a group of members that receive excellent service and highly value their Ambassador's (I am looking at you Bhrubin
) but there is just as clearly a group of members who don't, Now I will grant you that some people will probably never be happy no matter what Marriott does, but many people on this thread appear to be unhappy not because the program is failing to deliver on unrealistic expectations of some expensive perk but because their Ambassador is failing at basic tasks, such as responding in a timely manner to rather pedestrian customer service requests. I imagine that the Marriott Lurkers (and Execs) who reads those posts are genuinely horrified at these basic customer service failures as the whole point of the Ambassador program seems to be, at the very least, to prevent them.
That said, that the Ambassador program should fail to consistently deliver on its promises to ALL members should really not be surprising to any reasonably experienced business executive, especially to anyone who has had to build, staff, and maintain a large high-end customer service organization. There are many reasons for this a few of which are:
Now I will grant you that many (but not all of these problems) could likely be overcome or at least significantly reduced if Marriott were to commit to making significant investments in advanced customer relationship management software, enhanced training and increased staffing levels (among other things) but this naturally leads to the 2nd reason that the current Ambassador Program is unsustainable and that is that Marriott Corp is bearing almost 100% of the incremental costs of the Ambassador Elite level, which is in stark contrast to the other Elite levels. The primary enhanced benefit of Ambassador Elite vs. Titanium is access to an Ambassador and the direct cost of the Ambassadors is 100% borne by Marriott Corp. In contrast, Marriott properties bear little if any of the cost of the Ambassador level. The only real additional cost to them is Your24 and judging by the posts elsewhere in this forum that benefit seems to be one of the most inconsistently available benefits at that. All this makes the Ambassador program a significant cost-center for Marriott Corp and a growing one at that . It's also a cost that enjoys effectively zero scale benefits so it is destined to increase linearly with increases in the number of Ambassador Elites.
There are few costs that corporate finance executives hate more than significant costs not directly tried to revenue that are growing and do not enjoy scale benefits. There will inevitably be increasing pressure to manage the costs of the Ambassador program and such pressures will either lead to trying to reduce the costs of each Ambassador (offshoring?) or the number of Ambassadors. In other words, the current status quo is not fiscally sustainable.
One might argue that all Marriott needs to do to address the cost issue is to regularly increase the qualification requirements (spend and/or nights), but even if you do this and you are successful in greatly limiting cost growth (you can't completely eliminate cost growth because the costs are people costs and those tend to rise over time no matter what) you still have issue #1 , which is that you structurally can't consistently deliver on the promise of the program even if you are prepared to absorb the costs.
Given these two overall points, I would argue that the Ambassador program, as currently conceived and promised, not only will never be able to consistently deliver on its current customer promises, but as Marriott grows and the program expands, the service delivery is destined to decline overtime either through its inherent structural/scope limitations or the inevitable cost-cutting pressures that come to bear against any large, growing corporate expense.
Personally, I believe that Marriott has to fundamentally rethink the entire organizational structure and service delivery of the Ambassador Program and put in place a new structure that:
A) Guarantees a consistent level of service and expertise for all Ambassador Elites
B) Provides a consistent level of enhanced benefits to its elites while also shifting a greater percentage of the costs of the program back onto the property owners (who are benefiting most directly from the enhanced loyalty) and
C) Breaks the linear and non-scalable cost model that the current program is burdened with.
For anyone left reading, I am going to save my amazing new plan for another post as this one is already way too long, but this is my way of saying that if you like the Ambassador Program as currently constructed, enjoy it while you can because I have been to this movie before and the program as currently implemented seems destined for a major revamp sometime in the next few years as it dawns on both Marriott's marketing and finance people (perhaps during this years's budgeting cycle) that they are pouring increasing amounts of money into a program that can never structurally fulfill its promises to the customer and is also a program that has "unfairly" burdened Marriott Corp with almost all of the incremental costs while providing much of the benefits to its licensees.
I would like to make the modest suggestion that the Ambassador Program, as currently constructed, is fundamentally and fatally flawed and ultimately doomed in its current incarnation primarily for two main reasons:
- It can never consistently meet the fundamental service promises it currently makes to all its members at its current scale and scope
- In contrast with the other elite levels, the incremental costs associated with being an Ambassador Elite are almost 100% borne by Marriott Corporate which means that there will always significant internal pressure at Marriott Corp to reduce those costs which will ultimately work in direct opposition to goals of the program.
Now let me expand a bit on the two reasons why I believe the program, as currently constructed, is effectively doomed.
First, as far as never being able to consistently meet the fundamental service promise of Ambassador Elite to ALL its members, I think this should be obvious to anyone who reads this particular thread.. Sure, there is clearly a group of members that receive excellent service and highly value their Ambassador's (I am looking at you Bhrubin
) but there is just as clearly a group of members who don't, Now I will grant you that some people will probably never be happy no matter what Marriott does, but many people on this thread appear to be unhappy not because the program is failing to deliver on unrealistic expectations of some expensive perk but because their Ambassador is failing at basic tasks, such as responding in a timely manner to rather pedestrian customer service requests. I imagine that the Marriott Lurkers (and Execs) who reads those posts are genuinely horrified at these basic customer service failures as the whole point of the Ambassador program seems to be, at the very least, to prevent them.That said, that the Ambassador program should fail to consistently deliver on its promises to ALL members should really not be surprising to any reasonably experienced business executive, especially to anyone who has had to build, staff, and maintain a large high-end customer service organization. There are many reasons for this a few of which are:
- Even with careful hiring and lots of training, there is bound to be significant variance in any highly personalized service delivery; put another way, no matter what Marriott does some Ambassadors will be great and some will be bad.
- No matter what Marriott does, there will be a regular level of turnover in Ambassadors which will necessarily disrupt the "personalized" service that their high valued elites receive.
- The nature of "highly personalized" customer service is extremely difficult to operationally plan for as you can't just assign X # of customers to each Ambassador because the service requirements differ greatly by customer. Yes, over a large enough customer base there is an average "service load" that each customer generates, but there is likely such a very high variance in service requests/needs by customer that the actual workloads for any given Ambassador are likely to vary widely even if they have the same number of customers assigned to them making consistent workload balancing, and its resulting consistent service delivery, very difficult to achieve.
- As the Marriott empire continues to expand at a furious pace both in terms of properties, brands, and locations, it is getting progressively difficult, to the point of impossibility, to train any given Ambassador to be an expert in each and every aspect of the empire, thus their ability to deliver not just personalized, but informed and expert service, is preordained to decline over time. You can only ask (and train) one person to do so much.
- As others have pointed out, Marriott Corp ultimately does not control the delivery of the vast majority of the service: the individual properties do and there is bound be the same kind of variances in service delivery by property as there is by Ambassador. Marriott can attempt to limit these service inconsistencies through contractual relationships, training and financial incentives, but it will never be able to perfectly dictate service delivery at the property level.
Now I will grant you that many (but not all of these problems) could likely be overcome or at least significantly reduced if Marriott were to commit to making significant investments in advanced customer relationship management software, enhanced training and increased staffing levels (among other things) but this naturally leads to the 2nd reason that the current Ambassador Program is unsustainable and that is that Marriott Corp is bearing almost 100% of the incremental costs of the Ambassador Elite level, which is in stark contrast to the other Elite levels. The primary enhanced benefit of Ambassador Elite vs. Titanium is access to an Ambassador and the direct cost of the Ambassadors is 100% borne by Marriott Corp. In contrast, Marriott properties bear little if any of the cost of the Ambassador level. The only real additional cost to them is Your24 and judging by the posts elsewhere in this forum that benefit seems to be one of the most inconsistently available benefits at that. All this makes the Ambassador program a significant cost-center for Marriott Corp and a growing one at that . It's also a cost that enjoys effectively zero scale benefits so it is destined to increase linearly with increases in the number of Ambassador Elites.
There are few costs that corporate finance executives hate more than significant costs not directly tried to revenue that are growing and do not enjoy scale benefits. There will inevitably be increasing pressure to manage the costs of the Ambassador program and such pressures will either lead to trying to reduce the costs of each Ambassador (offshoring?) or the number of Ambassadors. In other words, the current status quo is not fiscally sustainable.
One might argue that all Marriott needs to do to address the cost issue is to regularly increase the qualification requirements (spend and/or nights), but even if you do this and you are successful in greatly limiting cost growth (you can't completely eliminate cost growth because the costs are people costs and those tend to rise over time no matter what) you still have issue #1 , which is that you structurally can't consistently deliver on the promise of the program even if you are prepared to absorb the costs.
Given these two overall points, I would argue that the Ambassador program, as currently conceived and promised, not only will never be able to consistently deliver on its current customer promises, but as Marriott grows and the program expands, the service delivery is destined to decline overtime either through its inherent structural/scope limitations or the inevitable cost-cutting pressures that come to bear against any large, growing corporate expense.
Personally, I believe that Marriott has to fundamentally rethink the entire organizational structure and service delivery of the Ambassador Program and put in place a new structure that:
A) Guarantees a consistent level of service and expertise for all Ambassador Elites
B) Provides a consistent level of enhanced benefits to its elites while also shifting a greater percentage of the costs of the program back onto the property owners (who are benefiting most directly from the enhanced loyalty) and
C) Breaks the linear and non-scalable cost model that the current program is burdened with.
For anyone left reading, I am going to save my amazing new plan for another post as this one is already way too long, but this is my way of saying that if you like the Ambassador Program as currently constructed, enjoy it while you can because I have been to this movie before and the program as currently implemented seems destined for a major revamp sometime in the next few years as it dawns on both Marriott's marketing and finance people (perhaps during this years's budgeting cycle) that they are pouring increasing amounts of money into a program that can never structurally fulfill its promises to the customer and is also a program that has "unfairly" burdened Marriott Corp with almost all of the incremental costs while providing much of the benefits to its licensees.
#2196
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,332
I have been an Ambassador Elite since October of last year. I am not personally a huge proponent or detractor of the program mostly because I just haven't used it enough to fairly assign it an overall grade in my mind however reading this thread for the past 9 months and seeing the recent back and forth between @Bhrubin and @DenConsultMonkey has prompted me to finally write something down that I have been thinking about and I am reminded of every time I read this thread.
I would like to make the modest suggestion that the Ambassador Program, as currently constructed, is fundamentally and fatally flawed and ultimately doomed in its current incarnation primarily for two main reasons:
Now let me expand a bit on the two reasons why I believe the program, as currently constructed, is effectively doomed.
First, as far as never being able to consistently meet the fundamental service promise of Ambassador Elite to ALL its members, I think this should be obvious to anyone who reads this particular thread.. Sure, there is clearly a group of members that receive excellent service and highly value their Ambassador's (I am looking at you Bhrubin
) but there is just as clearly a group of members who don't, Now I will grant you that some people will probably never be happy no matter what Marriott does, but many people on this thread appear to be unhappy not because the program is failing to deliver on unrealistic expectations of some expensive perk but because their Ambassador is failing at basic tasks, such as responding in a timely manner to rather pedestrian customer service requests. I imagine that the Marriott Lurkers (and Execs) who reads those posts are genuinely horrified at these basic customer service failures as the whole point of the Ambassador program seems to be, at the very least, to prevent them.
That said, that the Ambassador program should fail to consistently deliver on its promises to ALL members should really not be surprising to any reasonably experienced business executive, especially to anyone who has had to build, staff, and maintain a large high-end customer service organization. There are many reasons for this a few of which are:
There are few costs that corporate finance executives hate more than significant costs not directly tried to revenue that are growing and do not enjoy scale benefits. There will inevitably be increasing pressure to manage the costs of the Ambassador program and such pressures will either lead to trying to reduce the costs of each Ambassador (offshoring?) or the number of Ambassadors. In other words, the current status quo is not fiscally sustainable.
One might argue that all Marriott needs to do to address the cost issue is to regularly increase the qualification requirements (spend and/or nights), but even if you do this and you are successful in greatly limiting cost growth (you can't completely eliminate cost growth because the costs are people costs and those tend to rise over time no matter what) you still have issue #1 , which is that you structurally can't consistently deliver on the promise of the program even if you are prepared to absorb the costs.
Given these two overall points, I would argue that the Ambassador program, as currently conceived and promised, not only will never be able to consistently deliver on its current customer promises, but as Marriott grows and the program expands, the service delivery is destined to decline overtime either through its inherent structural/scope limitations or the inevitable cost-cutting pressures that come to bear against any large, growing corporate expense.
Personally, I believe that Marriott has to fundamentally rethink the entire organizational structure and service delivery of the Ambassador Program and put in place a new structure that:
A) Guarantees a consistent level of service and expertise for all Ambassador Elites
B) Provides a consistent level of enhanced benefits to its elites while also shifting a greater percentage of the costs of the program back onto the property owners (who are benefiting most directly from the enhanced loyalty) and
C) Breaks the linear and non-scalable cost model that the current program is burdened with.
For anyone left reading, I am going to save my amazing new plan for another post as this one is already way too long, but this is my way of saying that if you like the Ambassador Program as currently constructed, enjoy it while you can because I have been to this movie before and the program as currently implemented seems destined for a major revamp sometime in the next few years as it dawns on both Marriott's marketing and finance people (perhaps during this years's budgeting cycle) that they are pouring increasing amounts of money into a program that can never structurally fulfill its promises to the customer and is also a program that has "unfairly" burdened Marriott Corp with almost all of the incremental costs while providing much of the benefits to its licensees.
I would like to make the modest suggestion that the Ambassador Program, as currently constructed, is fundamentally and fatally flawed and ultimately doomed in its current incarnation primarily for two main reasons:
- It can never consistently meet the fundamental service promises it currently makes to all its members at its current scale and scope
- In contrast with the other elite levels, the incremental costs associated with being an Ambassador Elite are almost 100% borne by Marriott Corporate which means that there will always significant internal pressure at Marriott Corp to reduce those costs which will ultimately work in direct opposition to goals of the program.
Now let me expand a bit on the two reasons why I believe the program, as currently constructed, is effectively doomed.
First, as far as never being able to consistently meet the fundamental service promise of Ambassador Elite to ALL its members, I think this should be obvious to anyone who reads this particular thread.. Sure, there is clearly a group of members that receive excellent service and highly value their Ambassador's (I am looking at you Bhrubin
) but there is just as clearly a group of members who don't, Now I will grant you that some people will probably never be happy no matter what Marriott does, but many people on this thread appear to be unhappy not because the program is failing to deliver on unrealistic expectations of some expensive perk but because their Ambassador is failing at basic tasks, such as responding in a timely manner to rather pedestrian customer service requests. I imagine that the Marriott Lurkers (and Execs) who reads those posts are genuinely horrified at these basic customer service failures as the whole point of the Ambassador program seems to be, at the very least, to prevent them.That said, that the Ambassador program should fail to consistently deliver on its promises to ALL members should really not be surprising to any reasonably experienced business executive, especially to anyone who has had to build, staff, and maintain a large high-end customer service organization. There are many reasons for this a few of which are:
- Even with careful hiring and lots of training, there is bound to be significant variance in any highly personalized service delivery; put another way, no matter what Marriott does some Ambassadors will be great and some will be bad.
- No matter what Marriott does, there will be a regular level of turnover in Ambassadors which will necessarily disrupt the "personalized" service that their high valued elites receive.
- The nature of "highly personalized" customer service is extremely difficult to operationally plan for as you can't just assign X # of customers to each Ambassador because the service requirements differ greatly by customer. Yes, over a large enough customer base there is an average "service load" that each customer generates, but there is likely such a very high variance in service requests/needs by customer that the actual workloads for any given Ambassador are likely to vary widely even if they have the same number of customers assigned to them making consistent workload balancing, and its resulting consistent service delivery, very difficult to achieve.
- As the Marriott empire continues to expand at a furious pace both in terms of properties, brands, and locations, it is getting progressively difficult, to the point of impossibility, to train any given Ambassador to be an expert in each and every aspect of the empire, thus their ability to deliver not just personalized, but informed and expert service, is preordained to decline over time. You can only ask (and train) one person to do so much.
- As others have pointed out, Marriott Corp ultimately does not control the delivery of the vast majority of the service: the individual properties do and there is bound be the same kind of variances in service delivery by property as there is by Ambassador. Marriott can attempt to limit these service inconsistencies through contractual relationships, training and financial incentives, but it will never be able to perfectly dictate service delivery at the property level.
There are few costs that corporate finance executives hate more than significant costs not directly tried to revenue that are growing and do not enjoy scale benefits. There will inevitably be increasing pressure to manage the costs of the Ambassador program and such pressures will either lead to trying to reduce the costs of each Ambassador (offshoring?) or the number of Ambassadors. In other words, the current status quo is not fiscally sustainable.
One might argue that all Marriott needs to do to address the cost issue is to regularly increase the qualification requirements (spend and/or nights), but even if you do this and you are successful in greatly limiting cost growth (you can't completely eliminate cost growth because the costs are people costs and those tend to rise over time no matter what) you still have issue #1 , which is that you structurally can't consistently deliver on the promise of the program even if you are prepared to absorb the costs.
Given these two overall points, I would argue that the Ambassador program, as currently conceived and promised, not only will never be able to consistently deliver on its current customer promises, but as Marriott grows and the program expands, the service delivery is destined to decline overtime either through its inherent structural/scope limitations or the inevitable cost-cutting pressures that come to bear against any large, growing corporate expense.
Personally, I believe that Marriott has to fundamentally rethink the entire organizational structure and service delivery of the Ambassador Program and put in place a new structure that:
A) Guarantees a consistent level of service and expertise for all Ambassador Elites
B) Provides a consistent level of enhanced benefits to its elites while also shifting a greater percentage of the costs of the program back onto the property owners (who are benefiting most directly from the enhanced loyalty) and
C) Breaks the linear and non-scalable cost model that the current program is burdened with.
For anyone left reading, I am going to save my amazing new plan for another post as this one is already way too long, but this is my way of saying that if you like the Ambassador Program as currently constructed, enjoy it while you can because I have been to this movie before and the program as currently implemented seems destined for a major revamp sometime in the next few years as it dawns on both Marriott's marketing and finance people (perhaps during this years's budgeting cycle) that they are pouring increasing amounts of money into a program that can never structurally fulfill its promises to the customer and is also a program that has "unfairly" burdened Marriott Corp with almost all of the incremental costs while providing much of the benefits to its licensees.
The problem is even if Marriott started to implement more concrete benefits for ambassador -- say requiring every property to give an ambassador a bowl of fruit and a bottle of wine -- the vast majority of properties would give customers eligible for this amenity the cheapest bottle of wine they could buy.
Look at the breakfast benefit. It is clear what Marriott's loyalty division intended when the breakfast benefit was announced last spring, but Marriott's management division, its hotel development division, individual property owners and the third-party management companies have won the day and are undermining the loyalty division by claiming a muffin and coffee is a compliant breakfast. Until Marriott cracks down and focuses on quality control then these problems with continue.
Last edited by hockeyinsider; Mar 22, 2019 at 3:35 am Reason: typo
#2197




Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: toronto
Posts: 961
Just checked into the JW Parc Marriott in Vancouver, and got to say this hotel recognizes my Ambassador status quite well.
The front desk greeted me with 'Thanks for being a Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador' member. Then I was upgraded to a huge 1200 sq ft. Ivy Suite. This suite is insane, 1 bedroom, 1.5 bathroom, large dining/living room. There is even a pool table in the room.
Very impressed with this hotel.
The front desk greeted me with 'Thanks for being a Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador' member. Then I was upgraded to a huge 1200 sq ft. Ivy Suite. This suite is insane, 1 bedroom, 1.5 bathroom, large dining/living room. There is even a pool table in the room.
Very impressed with this hotel.
#2198
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
Just checked into the JW Parc Marriott in Vancouver, and got to say this hotel recognizes my Ambassador status quite well.
The front desk greeted me with 'Thanks for being a Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador' member. Then I was upgraded to a huge 1200 sq ft. Ivy Suite. This suite is insane, 1 bedroom, 1.5 bathroom, large dining/living room. There is even a pool table in the room.
Very impressed with this hotel.
The front desk greeted me with 'Thanks for being a Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador' member. Then I was upgraded to a huge 1200 sq ft. Ivy Suite. This suite is insane, 1 bedroom, 1.5 bathroom, large dining/living room. There is even a pool table in the room.
Very impressed with this hotel.
And that wonderful suite upgrade costs the hotel almost nothing as it already was going unused otherwise. Perhaps a bit more housekeeping time, but otherwise not much.
And that suite upgrade costs Marriott corporate nothing, as well.
So much for the supposedly huge or increasing costs of the Ambassador program’s most valuable benefit.
#2199

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Marriott Amb; Hyatt Globalist; Shangri-la Diamond; IHG SpireAmb; Hilton D; Accor G
Posts: 3,326
A neat tangible benefit would be if they gave Ambassador upgrades to best available room or suite instead of just standard suite. Seems commensurate a reward with the level of spend.
#2200
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
When the hotel is at lower occupancy AND the Ambassador knows we have a big priority stay, it’s really wonderful when we can be upgraded to a specialty suite. But I don’t think we should be expecting that.
And I think that’s also why I’m so deliriously happy with my Ambassador and the program.
Last edited by bhrubin; Mar 21, 2019 at 10:42 pm
#2201




Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: toronto
Posts: 961
Nice!
And that wonderful suite upgrade costs the hotel almost nothing as it already was going unused otherwise. Perhaps a bit more housekeeping time, but otherwise not much.
And that suite upgrade costs Marriott corporate nothing, as well.
So much for the supposedly huge or increasing costs of the Ambassador program’s most valuable benefit.


definitely left a very good impression and lasting memory of this hotel for me.
that is half of the suite, the other half is the bedroom and bathroom
#2202



Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 5,198
Did the app spend progress get updated? I can see my annual spend now even though I haven’t hit 50 nights yet.
#2203




Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 3,237
Mine still not shown
#2204



Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,400
I have to say, I have seen a noticable difference since being bumped up to Ambassador in the new program. I am a severely low maintenance traveler with over 2500 lifetime nights (was lifetime plat in both programs pre-merger), so my “sampling data” is extensive. But most of my recent pre-merger history was all Marriott vs SPG.
I don’t care about suites in general, most especially when traveling alone. I’m the weird person who doesn’t even desire a massive suite when I’m alone as it “complicates” my routines. I never ask about them at checkin,
But my suite rate at Marriott has gone from about <5% to over 70%. The difference is stunning. When I see everyone here complaining about losing suite upgrades, my only thought is “yeah, because they are all going to Ambassadors now”. I spent many years as a plat premier in the old Marriott program and it never made the slightest difference. But now, the difference has been big.
A couple requests to my Ambassador have been handled with ease (couple airport pickups, one points issue). I do feel my Ambassador is more useful than my Hyatt concierge, FWIW.
Anyway, as a mostly pre-merger Marriott person, the Ambassador level has been a big boost up.
I don’t care about suites in general, most especially when traveling alone. I’m the weird person who doesn’t even desire a massive suite when I’m alone as it “complicates” my routines. I never ask about them at checkin,
But my suite rate at Marriott has gone from about <5% to over 70%. The difference is stunning. When I see everyone here complaining about losing suite upgrades, my only thought is “yeah, because they are all going to Ambassadors now”. I spent many years as a plat premier in the old Marriott program and it never made the slightest difference. But now, the difference has been big.
A couple requests to my Ambassador have been handled with ease (couple airport pickups, one points issue). I do feel my Ambassador is more useful than my Hyatt concierge, FWIW.
Anyway, as a mostly pre-merger Marriott person, the Ambassador level has been a big boost up.




