Residential properties also offering resort
Jul 20, 2018 | 5:48 pm
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Residential properties also offering resort
This thread was prompted by yet another introduction of a residential cum resort locale in Hawaii, the Timbers Kauai.
Especially in the high-end, upscale brands (Rosewood, Auberge, Four Seasons, etc.), the combination of residential sales (of various ilk) with resort / hotel accommodations is a well-established trend. Such that it must be working because there are more such venues introduced every year. But, I confess it gives me pause. I have stayed in several of these and have no particular complaint although the shortage of hotel accommodations at Rosewood's Chileno Bay is annoying. I am yet squiffy about this combination of resort / hotel / ownership because I will never be more than a guest, never an owner and imagine I might be considered second string therefore which does not appeal considering the garganuan rates paid by hotel guests.
Plus I am not copacetic about renting a residence instead of a hotel suite/residence given decor and comfort issues. In some such venues, residential rentals are much less expensive than resort bookings and, well, this comforts me some. Las Ventanas al Paraiso is one such.
What say you all?
Especially in the high-end, upscale brands (Rosewood, Auberge, Four Seasons, etc.), the combination of residential sales (of various ilk) with resort / hotel accommodations is a well-established trend. Such that it must be working because there are more such venues introduced every year. But, I confess it gives me pause. I have stayed in several of these and have no particular complaint although the shortage of hotel accommodations at Rosewood's Chileno Bay is annoying. I am yet squiffy about this combination of resort / hotel / ownership because I will never be more than a guest, never an owner and imagine I might be considered second string therefore which does not appeal considering the garganuan rates paid by hotel guests.
Plus I am not copacetic about renting a residence instead of a hotel suite/residence given decor and comfort issues. In some such venues, residential rentals are much less expensive than resort bookings and, well, this comforts me some. Las Ventanas al Paraiso is one such.
What say you all?
Jul 22, 2018 | 9:08 pm
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Aman does this rather well . Stayed in villas , & chose not to at or with our friends at theirs , if you are wondering .
No second string issues ..
Unfamiliar with others though
No second string issues ..
Unfamiliar with others though
Jul 22, 2018 | 9:31 pm
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some luxury resorts only offer decent space / pool / etc in houses, and usually have decent number vs single presidential suite
i have really enjoyed the ones i have done, including what is now spa house at sanctuary scottsdale
some luxury resort residences can be rented privately and there are reports here of doing so. most US luxury resorts manage rentals but dont put them in hotel inventory
re second string, such managed rentals may sometimes have disadvantages vs booking accommodations in hotel inventory. but outside US, residences almost always in hotel inventory
some luxury resorts are residence only, including most timbers and some auberge. i think hotel rooms are only to decrease costs to buyers, and occasionally to obtain special funding and or permit
ex-rosewood jumby bay not residence only but residence owners own (co-op) island & hotel
i have really enjoyed the ones i have done, including what is now spa house at sanctuary scottsdale
some luxury resort residences can be rented privately and there are reports here of doing so. most US luxury resorts manage rentals but dont put them in hotel inventory
re second string, such managed rentals may sometimes have disadvantages vs booking accommodations in hotel inventory. but outside US, residences almost always in hotel inventory
some luxury resorts are residence only, including most timbers and some auberge. i think hotel rooms are only to decrease costs to buyers, and occasionally to obtain special funding and or permit
ex-rosewood jumby bay not residence only but residence owners own (co-op) island & hotel
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Jul 22, 2018 | 11:34 pm
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This thread was prompted by yet another introduction of a residential cum resort locale in Hawaii, the Timbers Kauai.
Especially in the high-end, upscale brands (Rosewood, Auberge, Four Seasons, etc.), the combination of residential sales (of various ilk) with resort / hotel accommodations is a well-established trend. Such that it must be working because there are more such venues introduced every year. But, I confess it gives me pause. I have stayed in several of these and have no particular complaint although the shortage of hotel accommodations at Rosewood's Chileno Bay is annoying. I am yet squiffy about this combination of resort / hotel / ownership because I will never be more than a guest, never an owner and imagine I might be considered second string therefore which does not appeal considering the garganuan rates paid by hotel guests.
Plus I am not copacetic about renting a residence instead of a hotel suite/residence given decor and comfort issues. In some such venues, residential rentals are much less expensive than resort bookings and, well, this comforts me some. Las Ventanas al Paraiso is one such.
What say you all?
Especially in the high-end, upscale brands (Rosewood, Auberge, Four Seasons, etc.), the combination of residential sales (of various ilk) with resort / hotel accommodations is a well-established trend. Such that it must be working because there are more such venues introduced every year. But, I confess it gives me pause. I have stayed in several of these and have no particular complaint although the shortage of hotel accommodations at Rosewood's Chileno Bay is annoying. I am yet squiffy about this combination of resort / hotel / ownership because I will never be more than a guest, never an owner and imagine I might be considered second string therefore which does not appeal considering the garganuan rates paid by hotel guests.
Plus I am not copacetic about renting a residence instead of a hotel suite/residence given decor and comfort issues. In some such venues, residential rentals are much less expensive than resort bookings and, well, this comforts me some. Las Ventanas al Paraiso is one such.
What say you all?
Jul 23, 2018 | 10:15 am
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no, talking about luxury hotels >
Especially in the high-end, upscale brands (Rosewood, Auberge, Four Seasons, etc.), the combination of residential sales (of various ilk) with resort / hotel accommodations is a well-established trend.
I am not copacetic about renting a residence instead of a hotel suite/residence given decor and comfort issues.
I am not copacetic about renting a residence instead of a hotel suite/residence given decor and comfort issues.
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