Earn Your Wings 2016
#481
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Ugh I booked YQM-YHZ-YUL-YOW-YHZ, all in G.
There is now YQM-YOW G fare, so it split it to YQM-YUL and YUL-YHZ.
I could upfare to V for free. I'm trying to figure out if I can upfare to P for free or minimal cost
Playing around with ITA and EF... sigh.
However, my final PNR has 6 segments on 2-cabin aircraft, and 2 on BEH. One of the segments is YYZ-SFO, to put into perspective the value of doing this. I can upfare the entire thing to P class for $244 CAD per person.
There is now YQM-YOW G fare, so it split it to YQM-YUL and YUL-YHZ.
I could upfare to V for free. I'm trying to figure out if I can upfare to P for free or minimal cost

Playing around with ITA and EF... sigh.
However, my final PNR has 6 segments on 2-cabin aircraft, and 2 on BEH. One of the segments is YYZ-SFO, to put into perspective the value of doing this. I can upfare the entire thing to P class for $244 CAD per person.
#482
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Unrelated to the thread's primary issue, but: do you mean that for $244 you were able to change from a flex fare to business class, on a multi-segment trip including YYZ-SFO? How is it possible that it could be that cheap? Or am I mis-understanding what you've done?
There are lots of flights where I would be delighted to turn a flex fare into business class for $244 but I've always assumed the price differential would be far greater.
There are lots of flights where I would be delighted to turn a flex fare into business class for $244 but I've always assumed the price differential would be far greater.
My PNR was YOW-YYZ-YHZ-YQM-YHZ-YUL-YOW-YYZ-SFO, all on one day.
I bought it online, and forced it into lowest available flex. That meant G for YOW-YYZ-YHZ-YQM (one fare), and Q for YQM-YHZ-YUL-YOW-YYZ-SFO.
I didn't have much choice on the latter. It's the last day of my big EYW run, so I have to get home, and it was the YYZ-SFO that forced me into Q.
Well, today, I realized that there is no published G fare for YOW-YQM. There is, however, a published W, V, etc. fare. The result was a fare break. By just booking YOW-YYZ-YHZ-YQM in W, I would have saved almost $200.
But I couldn't get a refund at this point. I think I could have upfared all the way to Q without paying more (because that would bring it back to one fare from two). However, there was a P fare slightly more than that. So I figured I'd just pay the extra $17 and get the YOW-YYZ-YHZ into confirmed business, without require any upgrades.
But then I wondered if I'd made this mistake elsewhere. I had forced everything into G. Luckily, the YOW-YQM was the only one where there was no G fare published.
However, I decided to go through all my purchased fares and compare the P fare to the fare I purchased. YQM-SFO in P was around $220 CAD more than in Q. I'd easily pay $300 CAD to upgrade YYZ-SFO (my first LMU was $399 plus tax on this route). I'd certainly pay it to upgrade YHZ-YUL-YOW-YYZ-SFO. But more than that fare, I also upgraded the aforementioned YOW-YYZ-YHZ. All for a total of $244.
6 segments, over 12 hours of schedule flying time, probably over 15 hours sitting on the planes. That's about $15/hour. And now I'm confirmed J, so if I misconnect somewhere, I get rebooked into J. Not rebooked into Flex and put on an upgrade list.
If you're booking "simple" flights on AC.com, you won't make this mistake as long as you look at all columns in the fare grid. But when you're booking strange 8 segment PNRs, and "forcing" them into G (or whatever), you may miss cheap J fares, or worse, miss the fact that there is no G fare published, and as such, W would be cheaper (and higher upgrade priority
).
#483


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CC - thanks! I must admit some (or much) of your response is greek to me, and I have a lot to learn about fare classes. But as you probably suspect most are my fares are simple, and booked through a TA, so the opportunity to upfare like this is presumably never (rarely?) available. And on the routes I travel (mostly domestic between mid-sized and larger cities), I don't see cheap J fares.
Would it be fair to paraphrase your situation as you booked a fairly expensive Y ticket but then figured out bumping it to J wasn't very expensive?
Would it be fair to paraphrase your situation as you booked a fairly expensive Y ticket but then figured out bumping it to J wasn't very expensive?
#484
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CC - thanks! I must admit some (or much) of your response is greek to me, and I have a lot to learn about fare classes. But as you probably suspect most are my fares are simple, and booked through a TA, so the opportunity to upfare like this is presumably never (rarely?) available. And on the routes I travel (mostly domestic between mid-sized and larger cities), I don't see cheap J fares.
Would it be fair to paraphrase your situation as you booked a fairly expensive Y ticket but then figured out bumping it to J wasn't very expensive?
Would it be fair to paraphrase your situation as you booked a fairly expensive Y ticket but then figured out bumping it to J wasn't very expensive?
The first is essentially like buying separate A-B and B-C tickets, where a combined A-C (via B) ticket in J was about the same price. But I didn't intentionally book separate fares, it was just my lack of attention.
The second is just me not really looking at fares on that route, so the cost of a mid-Flex wasn't much less than a low-J.
#486




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#487
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That's true. The YOW-YQM P fare after September is -- oh wait, there is no P fare after September. The Z fare (not the one that expires in September) is twice the price.
Same thing for YQM-SFO.
But I'll take them when I can get them
Same thing for YQM-SFO.
But I'll take them when I can get them
#488




Join Date: Jun 2010
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Multi segment flights bookings are missing posted segments answer back from aeroplan below , On phone for 1 hour trying to resolve , not yet . This is only one of my itinerary's missing segments .Good luck with flights posting EYW contestants
Thank you for submitting your request for the missing miles for the flight(s) you recently took with our airline partner(s). Unfortunately, we are unable to credit the miles to your account for the reason(s) listed below.
Name on ticket
MR XXXXX
Flight details
Airline code
QK
Departure airport
YQR | Regina - SK, CA
Departure date
2016-05-27
Seat number
Ticket number
0142162912XXX
Flight number
8344
Arrival airport
YWG | Winnipeg International Apt - MB, CA
Boarding pass number
000
Booking class
Reason(s) provided
Flight number provided is not valid
The request for your missing miles was not approved by our airline partner because they have no record of the flight number you provided.
The flight information must be entered exactly as it appears on your boarding pass. If the information was entered incorrectly in your initial request, you may resubmit your request.
Airport information does not match the ticket number provided
The request for your missing miles was not approved by our airline partner as they were not able to match the departure and/or arrival airport to the ticket number you submitted.
The ticket number must be entered exactly as it appears on your airline ticket receipt, and your flight information must match what appears on your boarding pass. If the information is different from what you originally submitted, you may resubmit your request.
Thank you for submitting your request for the missing miles for the flight(s) you recently took with our airline partner(s). Unfortunately, we are unable to credit the miles to your account for the reason(s) listed below.
Name on ticket
MR XXXXX
Flight details
Airline code
QK
Departure airport
YQR | Regina - SK, CA
Departure date
2016-05-27
Seat number
Ticket number
0142162912XXX
Flight number
8344
Arrival airport
YWG | Winnipeg International Apt - MB, CA
Boarding pass number
000
Booking class
Reason(s) provided
Flight number provided is not valid
The request for your missing miles was not approved by our airline partner because they have no record of the flight number you provided.
The flight information must be entered exactly as it appears on your boarding pass. If the information was entered incorrectly in your initial request, you may resubmit your request.
Airport information does not match the ticket number provided
The request for your missing miles was not approved by our airline partner as they were not able to match the departure and/or arrival airport to the ticket number you submitted.
The ticket number must be entered exactly as it appears on your airline ticket receipt, and your flight information must match what appears on your boarding pass. If the information is different from what you originally submitted, you may resubmit your request.
Last edited by traacs; Jun 13, 2016 at 8:08 am
#489



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Were any of your missing segments continuation/direct 1 stop with the same flight # on two segments? If so it will only get posted as destination A-C, not A-B, B-C
If not, try resubmitting your request with airline code AC and I bet it'll go through (since your ticket undoubtedly shows all AC flight codes).
If not, try resubmitting your request with airline code AC and I bet it'll go through (since your ticket undoubtedly shows all AC flight codes).
#490
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Yeah, I'm not new to EYW, but I've never had anything not post.
As expert7700 mentioned, I'd suggest submitting it as AC, not QK.
As expert7700 mentioned, I'd suggest submitting it as AC, not QK.
#491




Join Date: Jun 2010
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I ended up getting a call back and was told that they were manually submitted by a supervisor and would show up in a day in my Aeroplan account and then get picked up by EYW. Hopefully this does not continue with the rest of my EYW flights.
#492
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Has anyone noticed that 7yroldsuperelite and zone1boarding have identical badge counts, cities, etc.?
I wonder if there's actually going to be a 7 year old in the top 10.
I wonder if there's actually going to be a 7 year old in the top 10.
#493



Join Date: Mar 2014
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I assume the 7 year old must love flying.
To be honest I assumed that you were zone1boarding.
#494
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Are there any age restrictions for this contest?
#495
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I mean I know I have the shirt, but I've always used "canadiancow"

https://earnyourwings.aircanada.com/...le/canadiancow
My flying starts next weekend, but I don't think I'll earn any globetrotter badges until flights from July 2 post, and as such, I don't think I'll actually be anywhere near the top 30 until July 5 at the very earliest.
Once the booking window closes (right before my big run), I'll post the whole itinerary.
And no, you just need status.

