ANNOUNCEMENT - A new revitalised Executive Club is coming
Sep 2, 2011 | 5:44 am
#466
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Sorry to appear geeky but would it? I looked it up and the flights normally require a transfer at either ORD or DFW. Neither ORD nor DFW is more than 2000 miles from LAX or from BUF; therefore in first class these flights would earn 60 points in First. So the total is 4x60=240 TPs.
Have I got this wrong?
Have I got this wrong?
Sep 2, 2011 | 5:51 am
#467
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Looks like the current tiers are here to stay.
No news about TP levels, but it looks as if the current levels are staying with no additions or subrtactions:
from Coldwalker's link to BA.com
Bolding mine.
from Coldwalker's link to BA.com
6. Recognition
6.1. Entitlement to a Gold, Silver, or Blue Card depends on the applicable level of Tier Points, Avios Points earned or total number of eligible flights completed by Members. British Airways may, from time to time, change the number of Tier Points, Avios Points or eligible flights needed to qualify for each type of Card but will inform Members in advance of any changes. Full details are set out on ba.com.
6.2. Card entitlement is based on the number of Tier Points earned or total number of eligible flights taken in a Year. Each Member's Card status will be reviewed at the end of each Year before the expiration of the current Card. Tier Points and eligible flights can only be counted once. At the end of each Year or upon promotion to another tier level, the Member's Tier Point or eligible flight level returns to zero. Members progress from Blue to Silver and from Silver to Gold. In order to achieve or retain Silver status Members must ensure they take at least four flights operated by British Airways each Year in addition to obtaining either the required number of Tier Points or completing the required number of eligible flights. In order to achieve or retain Gold status Members must ensure they take at least four flights operated by British Airways each Year in addition to obtaining the required number of Tier Points.
6.3. Tier level may be reduced at British Airways' discretion depending on the Tier Points earned or total number of eligible flights taken in the previous Year. Tier Points earned or eligible flights completed prior to the beginning of the relevant Year will not be counted for this purpose.
6.1. Entitlement to a Gold, Silver, or Blue Card depends on the applicable level of Tier Points, Avios Points earned or total number of eligible flights completed by Members. British Airways may, from time to time, change the number of Tier Points, Avios Points or eligible flights needed to qualify for each type of Card but will inform Members in advance of any changes. Full details are set out on ba.com.
6.2. Card entitlement is based on the number of Tier Points earned or total number of eligible flights taken in a Year. Each Member's Card status will be reviewed at the end of each Year before the expiration of the current Card. Tier Points and eligible flights can only be counted once. At the end of each Year or upon promotion to another tier level, the Member's Tier Point or eligible flight level returns to zero. Members progress from Blue to Silver and from Silver to Gold. In order to achieve or retain Silver status Members must ensure they take at least four flights operated by British Airways each Year in addition to obtaining either the required number of Tier Points or completing the required number of eligible flights. In order to achieve or retain Gold status Members must ensure they take at least four flights operated by British Airways each Year in addition to obtaining the required number of Tier Points.
6.3. Tier level may be reduced at British Airways' discretion depending on the Tier Points earned or total number of eligible flights taken in the previous Year. Tier Points earned or eligible flights completed prior to the beginning of the relevant Year will not be counted for this purpose.
Sep 2, 2011 | 5:54 am
#468
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With a continental EU address on file for a BAEC account, one or two rather cheap intra-US "first class" trips with one intra-EU roundtrip retain BA-issued OW Emerald status. How can it get easier than that?
Changing to a US address on file for a BAEC account would only increase the difficulty/expense of trying to retain BA-issued OW Emerald status.
Changing to a US address on file for a BAEC account would only increase the difficulty/expense of trying to retain BA-issued OW Emerald status.
Sep 2, 2011 | 5:59 am
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Geekiness is a positive FT attribute and you're right - BUF was a bad example as AA doesn't fly BUF-JFK. However, it works on say, RDU, WAS, or BOS via JFK for instance, or for ATL or MCO via MIA. Well basically, anywhere from where you can take a connecting flight via JFK or MIA which is a LOT of possible routings.
Sep 2, 2011 | 6:01 am
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The "New" T&Cs have the same old wording
The fact it states [my bold above] is nothing new. No doubt that perfectly anodyne statement will lead to some people assuming that change is imminent. 
7.1. Tier Points can only be earned for travel on eligible Sectors at eligible fares on either British Airways flights or on eligible flights of certain Airline Partners and will be earned by a Member as set out on ba.com.
7.2. British Airways may, from time to time, alter the rules for earning Tier Points (for example, by altering eligible flights or fares or the number of Tier Points earned for specific Sectors). Members will be notified in advance of any changes.
7.2. British Airways may, from time to time, alter the rules for earning Tier Points (for example, by altering eligible flights or fares or the number of Tier Points earned for specific Sectors). Members will be notified in advance of any changes.
Sep 2, 2011 | 6:06 am
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Sep 2, 2011 | 6:12 am
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Stuff changed. Read ba.com for the details.
Sep 2, 2011 | 6:13 am
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Can anybody confirm to me the Avios miles redemption total is the cost for a single ticket or is this the cost for a return. for eg - New York in Club World is now 80k miles, Is this for a return ticket or one way? I'm getting to the point where I will be choosing my 1st reward flight and it's a question that I have always wondered. Many thanks.
Sep 2, 2011 | 6:22 am
#476
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No news about TP levels, but it looks as if the current levels are staying with no additions or subrtactions:
6. Recognition
6.1. Entitlement to a Gold, Silver, or Blue Card depends on the applicable level of Tier Points, Avios Points earned or total number of eligible flights completed by Members. British Airways may, from time to time, change the number of Tier Points, Avios Points or eligible flights needed to qualify for each type of Card but will inform Members in advance of any changes. Full details are set out on ba.com.
6.1. Entitlement to a Gold, Silver, or Blue Card depends on the applicable level of Tier Points, Avios Points earned or total number of eligible flights completed by Members. British Airways may, from time to time, change the number of Tier Points, Avios Points or eligible flights needed to qualify for each type of Card but will inform Members in advance of any changes. Full details are set out on ba.com.
Hopefully so, but I suspect that a new version of the T&C's will appear upon the new scheme going live. It would be silly of BA to have "leaked" any changes forthcoming in the T&C's published currently.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I'm fully expecting a slap in the face from some aspect of the new scheme, when the full details are announced.
Last edited by kered; Sep 2, 2011 at 6:30 am
Sep 2, 2011 | 6:22 am
#477
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Can anybody confirm to me the Avios miles redemption total is the cost for a single ticket or is this the cost for a return. for eg - New York in Club World is now 80k miles, Is this for a return ticket or one way? I'm getting to the point where I will be choosing my 1st reward flight and it's a question that I have always wondered. Many thanks.
Sep 2, 2011 | 6:32 am
#478
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I think that will relate to retention of Blue status, that you must earn at least 1 point within 36 months for the card to remain valid (as is currently also the case if I'm not mistaken). If you look at the next para which shows migration between the tiers, no mention is given to Avios points.
Sep 2, 2011 | 6:34 am
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Sep 2, 2011 | 6:35 am
#480
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I think that will relate to retention of Blue status, that you must earn at least 1 point within 36 months for the card to remain valid (as is currently also the case if I'm not mistaken). If you look at the next para which shows migration between the tiers, no mention is given to Avios points.
But in the first paragraph it does say Entitlement to a Gold, Silver, or Blue Card depends on ...........
So not only Blue tier
Edit to add......
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