Ah, but there's a difference. Bees provide a useful function to the world, and a swarm of angry bees is defending something worth defending.

I find it amusing that the supervisor said you have to stop filming - that filming is interfering with the screening process - because it "intimidates" passengers. Man, these people have chutzpah.

Agreed 100%.



Interesting slip of the tongue at 1:08 "I'm concerned about my seniorit.. security..."

The merging of the UA/CO seniority list must not be going well for her.

Well I would look silly in a bikini but if I was wearing one I would have no trouble taking the girls picture.

My information is slightly outdated since I've taken to flying out of MKE because of the grief that ORD causes. (I get some extra miles to boot!) The TSOs at MKE don't have the ORD attitude, and it's easy to do a self-directed opt-out. I've never had to opt-out at MKE even with the MMW running, and I'm sure they'd have no extra choice remarks if someone did opt-out. The Plat/EXP checkpoint has particularly high probability that you'll face the backscatter, especially as a female traveling alone.

I've not yet had to opt-out at ORD, but there have been a few close calls. I imagine as a female traveling alone you couldn't do the tricks some of us employ like fumbling with our carry-ons or ushering people to move ahead of you as you "search" for your kippie bag to remove.

As previous posters have noted, this was not a standard procedure pat-down. It seemed more like a cursory pat-down, or the pat-downs of old.

I recently had a pat-down complete with karate chops up to the groin (the TSA's more standard procedure of late), leaving me sore for several hours afterward. The only thing that would have added to this humiliation is to have it filmed and posted on youtube, complete with my face exposed. I don't doubt that the OP's intentions are good, as far as wanting the TSA's molestations exposed, but you shouldn't be doing it on the backs of people who have no say in the matter. (And yes, I'm aware of public places and whose side the law is on, so if you want to invoke the legal argument, I'm sure you're on solid ground. But from the human perspective, I think you are much less so.)

If you're that concerned about exposing the TSA's molestations to the world, I would suggest you round up some friends of yours, both male and female, who don't mind being filmed, and buy some cheap tickets out of O'Hare for the same airline on the same day around the same time. Then take turns so that one of you is always opting out while someone else is filming. Post them all on youtube at the end of the day. But please don't do this to random strangers. It's a double violation of them (again, from the human perspective).

According to FlyerTalk's resident TSA apologists, that never happens.

It's too bad you don't have video to prove your allegations.

Of course, if the TSA used statistics to protect the American public, nobody would be allowed to drive to the airport.

Mike

This makes me so mad. The US economy has not been doing well since 2008 and the government still purchased all these expensive body scanners? They better darn work and do everything they are supposed to do. It doesn't sound like the scanners work well if lots of people still have pat-downs after going through the scanner. We the taxpayers demand accountability to how our tax dollars are being spent. Of course, this will fall to deaf ears in our lovely government. The government does not seem to care about its people anymore. Maybe it's time to move to an enlightened country. Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland? America is the land of the oppressed.

You can help with this!!! When you are going to opt out, instead of saying "I opt out", walk up to the edge of the cancer box, then just stand there. When they motion you through, just stand there silently, don't move. They will repeatedly implore you to move, but just stand silently. Ultimately THEY will finally use the words "Would you like to opt-out?" Then say "Yes."

I do this every single time. The idea is to get THEM to offer opt-outs, and get in the habit of offering it, instead of having the person to know some sort of "magic words."

This was more important awhile ago, and now there is more publicity around the availability of opt out. It is still good to get them to offer it to people who may not know though.

Sometimes it has taken a minute or two, and often (most) of the time the TSAhole will get really pissed and say "ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS SAY OPT OUT."

I reply, "Yes, but I am happy you offered."

I'm not sure a video would show it, unless you were filming at exactly the right angle behind the TSA agent.

However, in case I'm wrong, I'm sure there are others (perhaps even yourself?) who would be happy to volunteer to prove otherwise. Especially those who have no problem with having videos of other opt-outs taken and posted online, but who haven't yet had a chance to be a part of this themselves, perhaps they could participate with their friends at their home airports in opting out and filming and posting online as I described before. Given the variability of TSA agents and in how they interpret the policies, especially if this were done at many different airports, it's likely that at least one or two cases of karate chops, and maybe more, would be uncovered.

I FULLY understand this because I am a very private person myself. I don't post so much as a picture of the neighbor's dog on Facebook without a mention to the neighbor. But I so respect the right to take photographs in a public place that I just can't bring myself to hold others to my own personal standard.

I tend to agree, faces should at least be anonymized. But these things are so offensive, so harmful that the reality should be shown as it is, not staged.

[QUOTE=Shorty;16764351]If you're that concerned about exposing the TSA's molestations to the world, I would suggest you round up some friends of yours, both male and female, who don't mind being filmed, and buy some cheap tickets out of O'Hare for the same airline on the same day around the same time.QUOTE]

Shoot, you don't need to spend a dime. Just recycle some day-old BP's and save your money.

No. Unless the TSO regularly stands at the entrance or exit of the machine, the x-ray exposure is likely not distinguishable from background radiation or eating a banana.

As someone who has called CPS on a pregnant woman who was addicted to methamphetamine, I think you need a reality check here.

But it doesn't bother you that there are government employees doing things to children that could arouse or gratify a paedophile?

You are confused. The way it works is that people who have invented screening devices hire ex-TSA employees to "offer a reward" to the TSA. Not vice versa.

Of course it does! BUT, that was NOT the question I was responding to.

Someone on here was filming at a checkpoint and was told they were being creepy.

No one could understand why filming was considered creepy. Almost every anti-TSA person on here think they are doing a great service to the world (USA) by getting involved in other people's business.

So I explained why it was considered creepy.

Then people started saying the law is on your side to film whenever you want.

But no one yet has answered the question of whether they would go onto a public beach and stand in front of a young girl in a bikini and take her picture without asking?

Can posters who say they have a free right to film where and when they want please answer the above?