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Aug 9, 2019, 2:13 pm
#5086
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I find the word ghetto to be applicable, no less so in the connotative sense of the word than in most any other sense of the word.
Aug 9, 2019, 2:27 pm
#5087
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I’m a native-born US citizen whose primary language from birth has been English and whose schooling has been almost entirely in the US before I was an adult and mostly in the US or English-majority institutions thereafter. I know plenty of urban ghettos in the US. While American ghettos are very different than ghettos in Sweden, there are definitely ghettos in Sweden, with Malmo having some ghetto areas of its own.
I find the word ghetto to be applicable, no less so in the connotative sense of the word than in most any other sense of the word.
If you weren't already aware the word is no longer considered appropriate as an adjective and is not generally accepted as a noun.
Aug 9, 2019, 2:51 pm
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I hear banlieu in French, and I think mainly poor/cheap suburbs. The minorities-majority areas in Malmo that have disproportionately higher poverty-related problems and higher crime rates tend to not be suburbs. And my bet is that I know the poor areas in and around Paris and Malmo pretty well.
Some may say it’s “the hood” when they really mean it’s “the ghetto”. And that’s from people who grew up in such areas and don’t use words which they wouldn’t want others to direct at them or anyone.
Let’s just say I know that the background of passengers boarding the SAS flights out of CPH or MMX is a world of difference from the passengers boarding the green Skanetrafiken buses in Lindangen in Malmo. It’s not a world of difference from people whose kids and elderly relatives take the yellow Skanetrafiken buses from Vellinge.
Some may say it’s “the hood” when they really mean it’s “the ghetto”. And that’s from people who grew up in such areas and don’t use words which they wouldn’t want others to direct at them or anyone.
Let’s just say I know that the background of passengers boarding the SAS flights out of CPH or MMX is a world of difference from the passengers boarding the green Skanetrafiken buses in Lindangen in Malmo. It’s not a world of difference from people whose kids and elderly relatives take the yellow Skanetrafiken buses from Vellinge.
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Aug 9, 2019, 5:49 pm
#5089
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They haven't. Not even Herrgĺrden is a no go zone. You should check how they classify the areas.
If you remove the hyberbole there could be a serious discussion about crime and what the police are doing.
However, right now I'd rather spend the night in Malmö than in a certain Chinese port city I'm sure you're familiar with. In fact that's what I'll do tomorrow. If you don't hear from me...
If you remove the hyberbole there could be a serious discussion about crime and what the police are doing.
However, right now I'd rather spend the night in Malmö than in a certain Chinese port city I'm sure you're familiar with. In fact that's what I'll do tomorrow. If you don't hear from me...
Aug 10, 2019, 7:00 am
#5090
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They haven't. Not even Herrgĺrden is a no go zone. You should check how they classify the areas.
If you remove the hyberbole there could be a serious discussion about crime and what the police are doing.
However, right now I'd rather spend the night in Malmö than in a certain Chinese port city I'm sure you're familiar with. In fact that's what I'll do tomorrow. If you don't hear from me...
If you remove the hyberbole there could be a serious discussion about crime and what the police are doing.
However, right now I'd rather spend the night in Malmö than in a certain Chinese port city I'm sure you're familiar with. In fact that's what I'll do tomorrow. If you don't hear from me...
It's called something else according to the local:https://www.thelocal.se/20190603/swe...-trends-police
In Rosengĺrd, UPS tried not to deliver parcels in the area but I know they changed their minds due to complaints.
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a...-paketleverans
I'm sure the Chinese port city is not that dangerous, none of the people I know there have been injured/arrested/killed/mugged/robbed/raped/bombed etc.. However there's no guarantee if you start to beat people up on the street, use a laser pointer to aim at the police, then yes you'll probably not be safe there.
However my kids told me that their classmates who live in Malmö (their school is in Malmö), told them that they have heard gun shooting, also the older kids in the school had conducted survey about safety of Malmö.
There was an incident happened right outside a school which is located in a nice area in Malmö:
04 februari 16.18, Rĺn, Malmö
Rĺn av bil, Limhamn.Polispatrull skickas till Linnégatan i Limhamn där ett rĺn inträffat. En kvinna uppger att en för henne okänd gärningsman under hot tvingat henne att köra sin bil frĺn Själlandstorget i Malmö, till Linnégatan i Limhamn. Pĺ Linnégatan har gärningsmannen visat upp ett pistolliknande föremĺl och en kniv, och därigenom tvingat till sig bilen. Polis möter upp kvinnan, och en anmälan om grovt rĺn samt olaga tvĺng upprättas. Det finns ingen gripen eller misstänkt. Kvinnan ska inte ha fĺtt nĺgra fysiska skador i samband med händelsen.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/sk...ng-i-rosengard
I do follow Swedish news on SVT and I don't know much about Stockholm and Göteborg or even Helsingborg (slightly too far away for me) but there are some places of Malmö that I certainly don't want to be in.
Aug 10, 2019, 7:32 am
#5091
Join Date: Oct 2009
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[Apologies for hijacking]
Is anyone here watching Below the Surface? I’ve only recently started (killing time during my almost permanent hotel stays
) and find the series absolutely brilliant (shame I don’t speak Danish but thank goodness BBC 4 shows the subtitles) 
G
Is anyone here watching Below the Surface? I’ve only recently started (killing time during my almost permanent hotel stays
) and find the series absolutely brilliant (shame I don’t speak Danish but thank goodness BBC 4 shows the subtitles) G
Aug 11, 2019, 12:35 pm
#5092
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[Apologies for hijacking]
Is anyone here watching Below the Surface? I’ve only recently started (killing time during my almost permanent hotel stays) and find the series absolutely brilliant (shame I don’t speak Danish but thank goodness BBC 4 shows the subtitles)
G
Is anyone here watching Below the Surface? I’ve only recently started (killing time during my almost permanent hotel stays
) and find the series absolutely brilliant (shame I don’t speak Danish but thank goodness BBC 4 shows the subtitles) G
As for Scandinavian TV series in general I've found there to be quite some gems sometimes. I really liked the first season of Lifjord, a norwegian series. Really nicely done out of a film making and story telling perspective.
It's a very welcome change to the usual Hollywood stuff.
As for the metro aspect, there are a few russian films that play in the moscow metro, I can't recall the name right now, but I always found the metro with its tunnels and labyrinths and general intruiging system and ambience very fascinating. It's similar to what I thought of airports and aviation when I was a kid: Everything was so big and fascinating and one didn't quite grasp the complete system and everything. It's just the awe of the huge and unknown I guess.
You're probably not into videogames that much, but there is a game called metro which plays in a post nuclear apocalyptic world and specifically in the moscow metro and it captures that feeling perfectly.
Another series you might enjoy is Flashpoint. Man, I really miss that series.
Last edited by Nick Art; Aug 11, 2019 at 1:28 pm
Aug 11, 2019, 1:21 pm
#5093
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I have not, but thanks for the tipp, it sounds promising and I will check it out!
As for Scandinavian TV series in general I've found there to be quite some gems sometimes. I really liked the first season of Lifjord, a norwegian series. Really nicely done out of a film making and story telling perspective.
It's a very welcome change to the usual Hollywood stuff.
As for the metro aspect, there are a few russian films that play in the moscow metro, I can't recall the name right now, but I always found the metro with its tunnels and labyrinths and general intruiging system and ambience very fascinating. It's similar to what I thought of airports and aviation when I was a kid: Everything was so big and fascinating and one didn't quite grasp the complete system and everything.
You're probably not into videogames that much, but there is a game called metro which plays in a post nuclear apocalyptic world and specifically in the moscow metro and it captures that feeling perfectly.
Another series you might enjoy is Flashpoint. Man, I really miss that series.
As for Scandinavian TV series in general I've found there to be quite some gems sometimes. I really liked the first season of Lifjord, a norwegian series. Really nicely done out of a film making and story telling perspective.
It's a very welcome change to the usual Hollywood stuff.
As for the metro aspect, there are a few russian films that play in the moscow metro, I can't recall the name right now, but I always found the metro with its tunnels and labyrinths and general intruiging system and ambience very fascinating. It's similar to what I thought of airports and aviation when I was a kid: Everything was so big and fascinating and one didn't quite grasp the complete system and everything.
You're probably not into videogames that much, but there is a game called metro which plays in a post nuclear apocalyptic world and specifically in the moscow metro and it captures that feeling perfectly.
Another series you might enjoy is Flashpoint. Man, I really miss that series.
One of my colleagues at our London HQ is massively into video-games and never fails to bring the topic up during our routine lunch-break’s walks whenever I’m in the UK; I shall needless to say ask him about Metro next time I see him
Going back to TV, I’m in the middle of yet another hotel stay (nearly sick of it...) and being ‘entertained’ by one of Liam Neeson’s films (that’s the only English language’s movie I was able to find so no jokes please ).G
Aug 12, 2019, 10:09 am
#5094
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Is there any tool that can show me a Carlson Wagonlit reservation (I want to see booking classes)? I don't have access to the CWT tool. They send me so called "offers" before ticketing, but the booking class is only shown after ticketing. Neither SK nor LO load the PNR, so I suspect this is not Amadeus (or it is Amadeus, but these sites do not display things from travel agents that are not ticketed). The PNR is 6-letters mixed digits and letters. I don't have much hopes, but people have shown before to know wonders.
Aug 12, 2019, 2:26 pm
#5095
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Is there any tool that can show me a Carlson Wagonlit reservation (I want to see booking classes)? I don't have access to the CWT tool. They send me so called "offers" before ticketing, but the booking class is only shown after ticketing. Neither SK nor LO load the PNR, so I suspect this is not Amadeus (or it is Amadeus, but these sites do not display things from travel agents that are not ticketed). The PNR is 6-letters mixed digits and letters. I don't have much hopes, but people have shown before to know wonders.
All of the tickets I get from CWT have two 6 letter PNR's. One which only works in CWT and one which works on SK. Lately I've had a number of flights on Swiss. Here the CWT PNR works when adding the booking to my swiss.com profile. The other PNR I haven't gotten to work anywhere except when one of the legs is a SK codeshare flight.
But try www.checkmytrip.com. I haven't used it for a while, but it used to be able to show most airlines bookings except when the airline has restricted them.
To add a trip once you have logged on you just need to click on the + in the top right corner on the box in the middle. Then you can type in the PNR. The e-mail function I've never managed to get to work.
Aug 12, 2019, 4:25 pm
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If CWT is using Sabre, you might try tripcase. Some OTAs use Sabre so checkmytrip doesn't work and the site guided me to tripcase/travelport.
Aug 13, 2019, 1:35 am
#5097
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But try www.checkmytrip.com. I haven't used it for a while, but it used to be able to show most airlines bookings except when the airline has restricted them.
To add a trip once you have logged on you just need to click on the + in the top right corner on the box in the middle. Then you can type in the PNR. The e-mail function I've never managed to get to work.
To add a trip once you have logged on you just need to click on the + in the top right corner on the box in the middle. Then you can type in the PNR. The e-mail function I've never managed to get to work.
Sep 6, 2019, 10:29 pm
#5098
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Nobody commented on luggage handling wildcat strikes in CPH Thursday and Friday. As the case seems to be about an employee's right to be member of another union than the main union, this might flare up again a few times.
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/penge/sas-...tager-arbejdet
In Danish only, but Chrome is your friend to fix that...
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/penge/sas-...tager-arbejdet
In Danish only, but Chrome is your friend to fix that...
Sep 17, 2019, 5:30 pm
#5100
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I do wonder why they go for mediocre hotels in the airport rather than something decent. Admittedly most people are just staying very short term, and probably it will be the base of many airline crews due to proximity, but with the reflagging of Hilton to Clarion, CPH does really make a decent hotel.