EB earning on LH-ticketed but 4Y-operated flights
Nov 25, 2022, 1:49 am
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EB earning on LH-ticketed but 4Y-operated flights
Hello all. I think I know the answer this, but I wanted to check.
A possible work trip to the north of South Africa next year brought up a surprising itinerary featuring LH4298/LH4299, a Eurowings Discover flight from Frankfurt to Nelspruit (aka Kruger Mpumalanga International Airport). It's a less-than-weekly seasonal flight but it gets me much closer to where I want to be, so is quite tempting.
It's ticketed by Lufthansa but operated by Eurowings Discover... so, I guess no earning possibilities for EuroBonus?
A possible work trip to the north of South Africa next year brought up a surprising itinerary featuring LH4298/LH4299, a Eurowings Discover flight from Frankfurt to Nelspruit (aka Kruger Mpumalanga International Airport). It's a less-than-weekly seasonal flight but it gets me much closer to where I want to be, so is quite tempting.
It's ticketed by Lufthansa but operated by Eurowings Discover... so, I guess no earning possibilities for EuroBonus?
Nov 25, 2022, 1:54 am
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Nope, I'm afraid not.
The thing to check if it is a LH flight which is just operated by 4Y or if LH just has a codeshare, which is much more likely in this case and sadly results in no miles earned.
The thing to check if it is a LH flight which is just operated by 4Y or if LH just has a codeshare, which is much more likely in this case and sadly results in no miles earned.
Nov 25, 2022, 2:08 am
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The question will be whether the LH4298/9 is the native number or a codeshare number. Looking at the number range I would say native. It flies via Windhoek, and there are quite a lot of German connections to Namibia, so I would not be surprised if it is an actual Lufthansa flight, where the operation is outsourced to Eurowings.
Nov 25, 2022, 2:40 am
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The question will be whether the LH4298/9 is the native number or a codeshare number. Looking at the number range I would say native. It flies via Windhoek, and there are quite a lot of German connections to Namibia, so I would not be surprised if it is an actual Lufthansa flight, where the operation is outsourced to Eurowings.
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Nov 25, 2022, 2:41 am
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LH 42xx flights are 4Y operated for mileage accrual and will not earn *A FFP / EB points. LH has a separarte arrangement with AC and UA for 4Y flights, they have elite recognition and earning options.
Nov 25, 2022, 2:49 am
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Thanks for the answers. Interesting to know that AC and UA are exceptions to the rule, but sadly no help for me this time.
The question is whether I'm prepared to drive 3-4 hours more each way just to benefit from the miles, lounge etc of a flight to/from JNB. Could be interesting, though, to experience one of the more obscure European widebody flights into a small airport.
(Namibia is, it bears repeating, a STUNNING destination for a holiday. Went there in 2019, with KLM via Luanda, then onwards with now-defunct Air Namibia to JNB. If you are reading this and you ever get the chance to go, don't let the lack of EB-earning stop you.)
Dunes at sunrise, on the road to Sossusvlei, sunrise (2019).
The question is whether I'm prepared to drive 3-4 hours more each way just to benefit from the miles, lounge etc of a flight to/from JNB. Could be interesting, though, to experience one of the more obscure European widebody flights into a small airport.
(Namibia is, it bears repeating, a STUNNING destination for a holiday. Went there in 2019, with KLM via Luanda, then onwards with now-defunct Air Namibia to JNB. If you are reading this and you ever get the chance to go, don't let the lack of EB-earning stop you.)
Dunes at sunrise, on the road to Sossusvlei, sunrise (2019).
Nov 25, 2022, 3:08 am
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Thanks for the answers. Interesting to know that AC and UA are exceptions to the rule, but sadly no help for me this time.
The question is whether I'm prepared to drive 3-4 hours more each way just to benefit from the miles, lounge etc of a flight to/from JNB. Could be interesting, though, to experience one of the more obscure European widebody flights into a small airport.
(Namibia is, it bears repeating, a STUNNING destination for a holiday. Went there in 2019, with KLM via Luanda, then onwards with now-defunct Air Namibia to JNB. If you are reading this and you ever get the chance to go, don't let the lack of EB-earning stop you.)
Dunes at sunrise, on the road to Sossusvlei, sunrise (2019).
The question is whether I'm prepared to drive 3-4 hours more each way just to benefit from the miles, lounge etc of a flight to/from JNB. Could be interesting, though, to experience one of the more obscure European widebody flights into a small airport.
(Namibia is, it bears repeating, a STUNNING destination for a holiday. Went there in 2019, with KLM via Luanda, then onwards with now-defunct Air Namibia to JNB. If you are reading this and you ever get the chance to go, don't let the lack of EB-earning stop you.)
Dunes at sunrise, on the road to Sossusvlei, sunrise (2019).
RE: Namibia: This destination just moved up a few slots on my bucket list. Looks stunning.