SAS Youth Fares [FAQ & Discussions]
#31
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: AGH
Posts: 5,980
Harsh and unnecessary, simply provide people the option to buy the correct ticket on the spot and it should be solved. Mistakes happen.
If they aren't carrying money on them that's another story and then they are intentionally breaking the rules. That's a whole different issue compared to someone having a wrong ticket.
If they aren't carrying money on them that's another story and then they are intentionally breaking the rules. That's a whole different issue compared to someone having a wrong ticket.
On some trains you can buy the ticket on the spot. Those are the long distance trains (e.g. ICE and IC) but you cannot on the regional trains... same as with the regional trains in Sweden. Try boarding the Öresundstrain with a wrong ticket and get caught... 1000 SEK penalty, and get off at the next station.
Yeah... and you don't even know this since they pipe it through the system in a way that it looks like all communication is just with the German Railways. This just came out recently by accident since a customer sued in court to reinstate his credit rating after he was reported to have traveled with an invalid ticket. (He did had ticket, which he could show on his smart phone as PDF but as he did not had a printer to print it on paper... it was not valid... ). He won in the end and did not had to pay the penalty and ticket again but still his credit rating with that agency is ruined since the court cannot force them to change their credit scoring mechanism and data collection. They cannot even force the scoring agencies to disclose what information they collect and how they combine it to a score. It is ridiculous...
#32
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: RTM
Programs: TK*G, AB G ;), HH D
Posts: 87
SAS Youth Fares [FAQ & Discussions]
Hi SAS'ers. Have been lately flying a lot with the youth fares (yes I'm lucky ) , booking leg by leg. (takes a lot of time as my dates are usually flexible and I'm flying mostly AMS to EU destination). It seems to me that SAS page allows only to search youth flights only when the origin or destination is one of the SK 3 hubs.
Does someone have the full fare rules? (VZZAPGHT for example).
Also can someone recommend an online tool where it would be easier to search the fares? Would be even better if I would be able to book them on a single ticket.
Love the fares though, super cheap (just booked ams-cph-agp 45+65€ for next week), + earning almost MR worth miles at 500minimum/100% on TK. ^
Does someone have the full fare rules? (VZZAPGHT for example).
Also can someone recommend an online tool where it would be easier to search the fares? Would be even better if I would be able to book them on a single ticket.
Love the fares though, super cheap (just booked ams-cph-agp 45+65€ for next week), + earning almost MR worth miles at 500minimum/100% on TK. ^
Last edited by Karl Gustav Annus; Apr 15, 2017 at 4:55 am
#33
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Koala Lemur
Programs: SK EBD LTG (*G)
Posts: 2,447
Not many here have experience with the youth fare booking tool Yes, you are lucky. Enjoy it!
I doubt you can do much with the SK website. It does not offer much for the regular fares. Standard advice here is to try wideroe's website (not sure if they expose youth fare search). I dont't think that matrix.itasoftware.com allows searching by fare.
@oliver2002 should know a way to find the fare rules
I doubt you can do much with the SK website. It does not offer much for the regular fares. Standard advice here is to try wideroe's website (not sure if they expose youth fare search). I dont't think that matrix.itasoftware.com allows searching by fare.
@oliver2002 should know a way to find the fare rules
#36
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: RTM, CDG
Posts: 180
The youth fares are amazing huh, found out about them recently and just booked my first flights (DUB-OSL-CPH-AMS, two separate tickets). I noticed this thread where someone mentions that you can book them as one ticket by calling SAS: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sas-e...th-ticket.html. I'll try tomorrow for my flights, I can still cancel them so if they can book them on one ticket I'll do that. Also, do you know if all *G benefits apply to the youth tickets?
#37
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: RTM
Programs: TK*G, AB G ;), HH D
Posts: 87
The lounge and fast track have worked as usual, nothing special with them. Also the +1 luggage SHOULD (according to online info) work, going to give it a go on friday and sunday, lets see how smooth it's going to go. (LH i.e. Usually doesn't honour the +1 in eco light)
#38
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: RTM, CDG
Posts: 180
Thanks, sounds good. On regular Go Light tickets I was able to check 1 bag for free, so I'm assuming this to be the same for youth Go Light. On another note, I tried booking two separate tickets over the phone on one ticket, after the first agent said it was not possible I hung up and called again but the other agent also said it could not be done.
#40
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TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/TURNAROUND SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE. NO BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT FARE BY RULE FROM/TO AREA 2 FOR VZZAPGHT TYPE FARES RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - PAGE 2/12 > m RESERVATION MUST SHOW THE DATE OF BIRTH AFTER THE NAME OF THE PASSENGER. WARNING- ALL RESERVATIONS MADE WITHOUT TICKET NUMBER WILL BE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY AFTER TICKETING DEADLINE. FL.FLT APPLICATION BASE FARE THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY DC ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY DX ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY JO ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY WX ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY YW ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY ZN. PAGE 3/12 > m CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS FARE BY RULE ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER OR - INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT ACCOMPANIED BY A YOUTH/STUDENT UNDER 2- CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER. NOTE - INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT MUST BE PRICED MANUALLY. -------------------------------------------------- OR - INFANT WITH A SEAT ACCOMPANIED BY A YOUTH/STUDENT UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER. NOTE - NOT VALID FOR UNACCOMPANIED MINORS. -------------------------------------------------- PAGE 4/12 > m SO.STOPOVERS FARE BY RULE NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED TF.TRANSFERS/RTGS BASE FARE UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. EL.ELIGIBILITY FARE BY RULE VALID FOR YOUTH CONFIRMED 0-25 WITH ID. NOTE - THE DATE OF BIRTH OF THE PASSENGER MUST BE INCLUDED AFTER THE PASSENGER NAME IN THE NAME BOX ------------------------------------- PROOF OF AGE MUST BE PRESENTED AT TIME OF PAGE 5/12 > m TICKETING AND AT GATE. ------------------------------------------------- YOUTH UNDER 12 YEARS OF AGE MUST TRAVEL WITH ADULT 16 YEARS OR OLDER. ------------------------------------------------- NOT VALID FOR UNACCOMPANIED MINORS. AC.ACCOMPANY TVL FARE BY RULE NOTE - IF YOUTH CONFIRMED UNDER 12 WITH ID - MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SECTORS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY AN ADULT 16 YEARS OR OLDER. TE.TKT ENDORSEMENT FARE BY RULE THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - VLD FOR YTH 0-25 WITH ID - AND - NON REF - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. PAGE 6/12 > m PE.PENALTIES FARE BY RULE CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - REFUND OF OTHER UNUSED TAXES/FEES/CHARGES PERMITTED. ----------------------------------------------- FOR NON REFUNDABLE TICKETS YQ/YR DOMESTIC/ INTERNATIONAL FEES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. CHANGES ANY TIME PER TICKET CHARGE EUR 45.00 FOR REISSUE. NOTE - INFANTS FREE OF CHARGE. PAGE 7/12 > m -------------------------------------------------- ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF FARE COMPONENT MAY NOT BE CHANGED. -------------------------------------------------- REBOOKING CHARGE EUR 45 PER TRANSACTION. ------------------------------------------------- IN CASE OF CHANGE TO HIGHER SK YOUTH GO LIGHT FARE CHARGE EUR 45 PER TRANSACTION AND CHARGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FARE PAID AND HIGHER SK YOUTH GO LIGHT FARE. ------------------------------------------------- FOR AUTOMATIC REISSUE PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED ON AN EMD. FOR MANUAL REISSUE ON AN EMD OR AS DU TAX. PENALTY FEE MUST REMAIN NON REFUNDABLE. ------------------------------------------------- REBOOKING/REISSUE/PAYMENT MUST BE MADE IN ONE TRANSACTION NOT LATER THAN 1 HOUR BEFORE DEPARTURE OF EITHER THE FLIGHT BEING CHANGED OR THE NEW FLIGHT WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. PAGE 8/12 > m CO.COMBINABILITY FARE BY RULE DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS AT THE POINT OF DESTINATION. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY YOUTH/STUDENT/YOUTH-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER SK IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. VC.VOLUNTARY CHANGES FARE BY RULE IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS PAGE 9/12 > m BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF SK INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE EUR 45.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. SK FARE TYPE PSZ IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PAGE 10/12 > m PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. SK FARE TYPE PSZ IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF SK INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE EUR 45.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND PAGE 11/12 > m REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. SK FARE TYPE PSZ IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. VR.VOLUNTARY REFUNDS FARE BY RULE REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16 PAGE 12/12 > m REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. SK FARE TYPE PSZ IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. VR.VOLUNTARY REFUNDS FARE BY RULE REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16 NO MORE PAGE AVAILABLE
#43
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: TLL
Programs: LuxExpress VIP
Posts: 220
I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding if these fare rules can booked with connecting youth fares. ex. TLL-ARN-HKG-ARN-TLL which can be booked separately. I know how to book these in Amadeus on one ticket, but not sure about the rules. This can't be done in the web, but maybe a call to them could sort it out.
#44
Join Date: Jul 2008
Programs: EBG4Life, EBD, 1MM
Posts: 1,397
I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding if these fare rules can booked with connecting youth fares. ex. TLL-ARN-HKG-ARN-TLL which can be booked separately. I know how to book these in Amadeus on one ticket, but not sure about the rules. This can't be done in the web, but maybe a call to them could sort it out.
We have been tracking award tickets to ORD for a few months...only to see July and the first half of Aug blacked out in all classes. We started tracking youth tickets this week and suddenly two seats showed up, so we opened a bottle of wine to celebrate banishing the kids for 4 weeks to my parents. Due to SAS's crappy website, we needed to open up another bottle before we could finally book the tickets. Despite the pain, we are quite happy now but SAS really tries hard to not sell tickets.
I would recommend to call and save the effort.