CPH-Flyer

People's memory is surprisingly short when it comes to these things. And mainstream media has grown tired of reporting on DY it seems, so most people don't realise how many there are. And yes, when it comes to flights 1 DKK saved seems equal to happiness for many people...

Tango Alpha

And then, when they are airside at their Scandinavian departure airport, they spend without any trouble 150 Euros or more on beer, expensive juices and croissants.

SK AAR

Haha, very true. It is beyond me why ppl have to stuff themselves with probably the most expensive food and beverages in the country once at the airport...

CPH-Flyer

How is it in the song in the Lego movie? "Drink overpriced coffee" is mentioned as one of the steps to hapiness...

Joking aside, there is a weird balance between where people freely spends and saves every possible penny.

fassy

And rarely anybody accounts the time they spend hunting for a bargain... Just witnessed a friend spending hours on the web looking for a cheaper fare. After 6 hours he announced he booked the trip with 2 connections on carriers which are not even in one alliance through some shady OTA 150€ cheaper than flight with one connection on *A trough LH.com.

Well, well... I'm pretty sure he will do exactly the same again next time.

BHIL

Very true

http://avherald.com/h?article=4a9546cd&opt=0

highupinthesky

It's beyond me too. And to make matters worse. In another story in bt.dk Norwegian have left 100 people stranded in Nice late Sunday because of "a technical issue shortly before departure" so they had to send a smaller bird. And in best norwegian style they are splitting families.

LN-LND is by the way still stranded in CPH on the fourth day now. So much for a minor technical issue.

oliver2002

DY has the 787 'goldcare' package by Boeing, executed by Monarch in Europe.

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2016-07-...dCare-Coverage

If Monarch cannot rustle up a spare Trent engine, the aircraft stays on the ground.

highupinthesky

If I remember correct, it took SAS less than 3 days to get an replacement engine installed in a bird stranded in Washington a couple of years ago.

But never the less. My point is the incident is a lot more serious than norwegian claims. Ln-lnd is now stranded in CPH on day 5, and I doubt it's because norwegian have no need for the bird.

oliver2002

Back in 2009 SK left a A330 for two weeks in EWR because of a dispute with the engine supplier about who was responsible for the damage. Swapping engines can be easy and/or tough, depending on the facilities you have on site and the spares.

The DY 787 engine needs an inspection after a flame out like that. If the contracted party cannot do that then the aircraft stays grounded, which is not necessarily an indicator on the extent of the damage.

highupinthesky

With goldcare from Boeing it should not take more than 1-2 days to inspect and/or replace an engine, unless you discover some serious issues. It's pretty expensive to have a 787 stranded. It already at least twice meant that +100 passengers have been delayed for more than 12 hours costing hotel, compensation etc.

CPH-Flyer

Does the GoldCare package also cover the engines? Not really Boeings area of expertise, and even if Monarch does the actual work.

highupinthesky

I would assume Boeing to be single point of contact with end to end responsibility. Whether they outsource part of the work to partners doesn't really matter.

It's no different from when they build the birds. They don't build the engines themselves either.

fassy

Replacement engines are not easy to get... e.g. SAS sold some (all?) of their spare engines last year as far as I remember. And some exotic spare parts might be hard to get in short time as well. I used to work for on-board courier service and flying spare parts for aircraft on the ground was part of the routine - often 2 to 4 days to get the parts needed was considered normal - even though not desired.

It really depends on what broke and how bad it broke

It is not that simple. Why should Boeing take responsibility for a 3rd party contributed part? Maintenance and service contracts for airliners are pretty complex agreements and as far as I know especially for the engines neither airbus nor Boeing take responsibility.

CPH-Flyer

The airlines also don't order the engines from Boeing, and often not even at the same time.