I am wondering if there are any fast lanes for security at CPH. I am *A Gold and will be flying SAS regularly. I will not have EuroBonus though; I'm a United whore.

Sadly there is no *G fast track in Copenhagen. You need to be SK*G or fly non-economy fare on SK (so Business or economy extra will do).

Note that as United gold you will have free access the SK lounge in CPH.

Since not using the fast-track at CPH is really a big disadvantage (walking much further and standing in line for long) I really feel discriminated as *A gold (not SK). TK in IST also is very strict (selfish?) towards alliance partner's flights, but at least on their own metal doesn't make a difference between TK or *A status.
But the great lounge in CPH makes up for a lot, despite it's often inconvenient location. Hope you are lucky and they have smoked salmon (which seems to be offered less frequently than before).

They had salmon last Friday when I was there :P

SAS says that LH won't pay for FastTrack in CPH, so it has nothing to do with discrimination. Contact LH and ask them to pay.

LoL, and please tell that to all the other carriers who "don't want to pay" either, or ship your dried fish and salt on other routes

You know, they have build a canal to omit the �resund

Its not a SAS airport, therefore rather unlikely a SAS demand "to pay"...
Rather a demand originated by those empty suits running the show @CPH, as far as insider sources are telling

SAS doesn't "pay" specifically for fast track security at MUC, FRA, or IAD but SAS EBG or premium passengers can use these facilities. It's a simple matter of decency and reciprocating.

Does Swiss really "pay" for fast track security at ARN? Flat fee, per premium passenger, or per passenger that uses the service?? Their check-in desk is 10 meters from the "charter gate" security, which only has a premium security for Norwegian. So Swiss premium passengers should walk 500 meters to the other end and then take the stupid detour through the tax free shop and then hike 500 meters back to the lounge area.

The problem is that SK is the victim of their own financial success. They're so busy looking after their own frequent fliers that they have no need to encourage the incremental extra business from *A partners.

SAS pays CPH for the SK fast track - and it is therefor their fast track. Just as other airlines pay CPH allowing pax to use the general fast track option.

You may not like it but that is how it is.

Sure, and they do not intend to make their own fast track available for anyone else (since it does not state *G), about the "fast lane" into the "shopping maze", I am really happy to see a list of airlines which "pay for that". I can list you plenty *A who don't, pretty much all regional *A partners appear to don't pay for that. Nice lottery, especially for those who use CPH less frequent.

SK manages to "fund" their private fast track with EBG, who hapened to need only 50K basic miles p.a. These, earning treshold wise, slightly enhanced MM*S cards, gives SK passengers access to 1st class/*G fast track on maaany airports where people of good will manage to make those available. In turn, MM*G, which has a twice higher earning treshold, gives close to 0 benefits @CPH, living the *A as a founding member... Sure *G can use the SK check in, perhaps they can have with a looong detour a glimpse at their lounge, which is not very rarely, also far away from their gate. Ministry of Silly Walks...

In other words, some guys love to jam and load other peoples fast tracks and much more centrally located lounges, but in return there is close to nothing (except arrogant talk by some).

Sure, but I bet you would react the same if it would be the other way around. (and would not buy into this story too).

Just changed the planned destination for a workshop from CPH to Kempinski @MUC, 8 PAX gone for CPH and likely 4 or 5 for SK and 16 room nights gone for CPH's Hotels you know, peanuts, means surely nothing to a rich airline and airport.

Ministry of Silly Walks, this brings me on an idea:

Why not to approach and pass T3 like that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlBUglE6Hc

And while passing through the Duty Free, time for bringing the shop in proper visual order, Aarlborg to CoCo Chanel, Anthon Berg to Whiskey, no, not Whiskey to lounge, that would be theft..

That's great. You parrot the company line.

Consider this: as a proud EBG you might fly from ORD on UA. The entire terminal (with maybe a few LH flights) is UA and you can use the premium security, so we can say that UA "pays" for it directly or indirectly. Does UA say, sorry Mr. SAS, you can't use the premium security because SAS didn't "pay for it"? No, they have the courtesy of allowing you use the "UA funded" security at ORD.

Same thing with MUC and LH. At Haneda, ANA has a very nice premium check-in area with security and direct access to the lounge. They "pay" for this. As an EBG you are welcome to use it.

I really do not know the details of the agreements between the airlines and the airport operators, or among the airlines. I only know that NOTHING is done our of courtesy or kindness. If for example CPH charges SAS for each passenger that uses the fast track, like they are charging KLM, Air France etc for the same service, I well understand that SAS limits the privilege to its best cutomers: C, Y and EBG. I suspect that in other airports there are different arrangements. I addition, probably, unlike the preferential check in and the lounge access, the security fast track access privilege is not covered by the *A bylaws.

Again, SAS is (well, is supposed to be) a company that wants to make a profit, like CPH: so SAS looks after its customers, and CPH sells its services, like the CPH apartment lounge to various airlines

CPH is run by an investment bank, to understand an investment bank, lets understand the typical 21st century investment banker (and including all those professions in similar industries).

They get hired straight from the university and get their first employment contracts according to the amount of theoretical knowledge they remembered and got certified on their alma mater.

Then, the next further key skills they learn is:

How to talk smart, how to kiss the right shoes, how to deflect blame and how to extract money.

They are numbers in a computer system and are primarily judged by numbers in a computer system.

What they usually do not learn is:
Real entrepreneurial thinking, building strong social relationships with all sides of the equation (this is a line of defense against problems they usually don�t encounter), kind of �we are in this together� situation. They never face the hard ships of creating something from 0.
If they �create� something, they need smart business talk in order to get equipped with a pile of money and since they are very poor creators, they prefer to buy existing things just to milk them later as much as possible (things which others have created).

That�s a very boiled down description of the species which holds a majority of shares @CPH, they are around the globe the same, everywhere.. if one of you here are of that species, my apologies for the open words, I have met plenty of you and have no indications for something different.

Now, let�s picture these in crystal palaces born and raised guys and SAS people sitting in a room, I think the roles are clear, the CPH guys are the rich guys (since they dispose of a large pile of money which is btw. not theirs), SAS is the poor old sick man�

Who�s interest and bottom line is likely to win at this table?

Then, if you take the collection of circumstantial evidence further, there are going a couple of things @CPH against the fundamental interest of SAS, like not having all SAS/*A in one spot, like having all PAX traffic funneled and squeezed into CPH�s �resund. Then, having an eye how carefully and central this �resund is designed and set to all the traffic at CPH and how strange SAS CPH staff behaves as to the fast track topic, leaves for me rather the conclusion that SAS got their fast track for very expensive money and with a lot of restrictions to it.

What I would expect a SAS to do is to black mail these empty suits for eg. the same way they did it with all the cabin crews and pilots, if it is not too late.

The other option is that SAS gave already a sh*t about all the other *A PAX and caved in quick�that's what I personally feel to be true.

6 or half a dozen, the bill for this blood sucking vampire squid having its way @CPH is IMO much more on SAS then most think, there is little purpose in SAS being in an alliance if their so called �main hub� is nothing close to what a typical *A hub looks like and SAS does not have any capability to benefit from these optimized layouts, systems and structures. It rather disenfranchises a larger customer base which DOES look for a product they simply don�t get from SAS@CPH.

In that regard, Dear SAS, very weak game played, sorry..

Hi Peocro, the fast track access is surely a privilege and has a purpose for any airline, because they want to have their PAX on the shortest way and in the most uncomplicated mode on their planes, this in order to have travelling with them as fast and as most convenient as possible.

The airport is per se only an auxiliary function, which in this particular case, works totally against the airline/traveller. Imagin if you have to get on a metro, to just to have to encounter a long zigzag detour through a myriad of shops, which turns the passage through the metro station into an even longer ride then then ride with the metro itselves. Its a bid comical, isn't it? What is important in public transport, the railway stations profit or the time and effort to get from A to B?

If they do that all in a shop like IKEA, I can always opt out to not go there, on an airport, I am supposed to accept being forced into that, meaning effectively, the passage through the airport takes alltogether longer that the flight on s/h.

Then, if these guys manage an airport, its a game of two totally different profiles of players, on one hand you have entrepreneurs like SAS, on the other hand you have XY which is designed to suck the live blood out of everyone around, not very entrepreneurial. In some cases, it will lead to a quick death, in cases like CPH it will likely lead to a slow death for SAS, very sure about that (we still are all paying the bills for the 2009 crisis).

Have a look on an investment banks agenda:
http://www.macquarie.com/mgl/com/pro...t-we-stand-for

And compare that to an entrepreneurial agenda:
http://www.fraport.com/content/frapo...-strategy.html

I hope you could agree that there is a big rift between both and the latter has its interests much more in a mutual strengthening for the long run and generates good profits by that, the beforementioned is there for the quick buck and everything else is doomed to suffer, its written in the DNA of them.

SAS is very important to Copenhagen, Scandinavia, any short term money interests are a lethal dose for them IMO.