Bernie2012

ps. I remember having gotten a phone directory with all *g numbers, which probably some here did not get for some strange reasons, the sas hotline worked until some time ago and ftl allows you IMO also to make seat reservations on line. about the economy extra, you should tell that to the dismissing automats to look more careful on the boarding pass and not to say out of some pawlow's reflexes good bye if they see a sen card. (we speak only about CPH here..)

CPH-Flyer

There used to be a seperate number for EBG, or if you called the mainline and punched in your EBG number you were also connected to them. Not sure what is around these days, as I have not called them in ages. Maybe I should try, still have the hotline number stored on my phone.
The seat reservation on European flights has for a while been an EBG "perk" only. Some years ago it was for all passengers, regardless of booking class or mileage status, but that was changed to EBG only. FTL gives you seat reservations on LH flights (?), but for some reason *A is not very harmonized about the benefits, especially for Silver. But even for gold some of the carriers keep the better part to their own gold cards. (hello Singapore Airlines)

EDIT: Sorry for getting a bit of track from the actual topic of this thread.

GUWonder

AV.

Is Roschier involved in what is going on with SAS?

cesco.g

I for one would hate to see SAS go - if anything we (FFs) need more competition not less.

henry999

Thanks for that, Bernie2012. The more you post, the better we understand you.

cheers,

Henry

Bernie2012

004532326800, that is what I picked out of this phone directory I got some years ago where all the*G lines were stated.

With the seat reservation, I usually try to don't meddle around, the airlines do them better than I possibly can.

Cupart

Update:

Newly trained cabin crew get paid around DKK 18'000 per month + certain expenses and pension. With seniority this can reach to around DKK 31'000 pr month + expenses and pension.

A purser's salary is between DKK 22'000 and 40'000 per month + certain expenses and pension again depending on seniority.

A newly trained pilot with SAS earns around DKK 40'000 per month and can earn up towards DKK 85'000 per month.

A captain's salary lies in the rage DKK 70'000 to DKK 100'000 per month.

Of course this is for the danish employees and before the 15% cut back proposed...

Bernie2012

My pleasure, Henry, and I can tell you ad hoc about 15 persons who's business CPH/SAS is loosing, sure they can affort that.

If some parts of a society get to decide from the green table about what has and has not to be tolerated, I think it is in trouble, particularly if that results in a selve perpetuating inquisision by some (as if they have nothing better to do).

I had been recently with an Eastern European entrepreneur touring some industrial assets and the country side of Denmark itselves, to put it mildly, he did get a very grim picture of Denmark. No insult in here, but, guess with what particular impressions he left the country and how that possibly relates to the problems of SAS...

SK2751

And I assume this is before paying tax. The entry salary seems fair to me, if excluding tax.... This is close to what a an average university graduate can get in a public sector job on entry. Usually performing a much more complex, and competence heavy job. With experience growing this is hard to assess on general plan. I laways felt a bit envy of people who are essentially drivers on steroid and are so well paid. It would be more fair to compare to other airlines. This is an insight I do not have.

Passmethesickbag

What a creepy little forum this can be sometimes. I don't complain about the link to the German website - after all, it's your choice how you choose to you live your life...

Bernie2012

creepy, I find your "out of context" quoting.. Looks pretty bad this sentence if cut out from anything else around, I have to admit that...
EDIT: I did not see your later edit, sure, tolerance is a black and white question, not a question about the right shade of grey. I only don't understand what German website you refer to.

nacho

Of course it's before tax. I think they are definitely earning too much (not the amount but the working conditions taking into account). I do think it's fair to compare those figures to other airlines - however I doubt that they earn less than DY even with the 15% cut.

SAS hasn't been doing 'well' for the past 10 years, and it has been doing restructuring for a long time but still not going anywhere.

I wonder CPH Airport can survive without SAS.

SK2751

Well if you get 18kkr salary and then pay tax of that this is not an incentive to work at all. I think then the better deal to align the working time with the salary (by increasing work time). Not decreasing salaries.

Cupart

To put things into perspective a newly trained cabin crew employee from Ryanair makes about EUR 15'000 per year (or DKK 112'000) pre tax or DKK 9'333 pr month before tax. Income tax in Ireland is around 20% so a bit lower than in DK... In addition to this 10% commission on all on-board sales and that's about it...

oliver2002

You also need to add the tax free per diem rates that the crew gets on top for the time they are on the road. This can be 200-300€ per trip CPH-EWR for example.