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Old Sep 29, 09, 8:53 pm
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Timing of release of reward seats on SK

I am looking to redeem 2 reward seats on SK with my AC points but there is no seat available even on the first day that I've been able to check (i.e., 330 days out).

Do anyone know the practice of SK that some reward seats may be released later?

My itinerary involves a transatlantic portion from North America to Europe. I am "sort of" in a "catch-22" situation because I need to book very early for the transatlantic portion as seats usually go very fast yet my intra-Europe portion is unavailable. AC's programme is quite restrictive of subsequent changes.

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Old Oct 1, 09, 2:27 pm
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Award seats on SAS are released between 330 and 329 days before departure, but of course award seats are not available on all flights...
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Old Oct 3, 09, 1:23 am
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Which route(s) are you looking at?
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Old Oct 5, 09, 9:51 am
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Which route(s) are you looking at?
It's KKN-OSL-LHR.

I am contemplating a Hurtigruten northbound cruise that sails from BGO to KKN.

I shall be travelling from North America and shall want to use a *A redemption to fly:

North America-FRA-BGO (Open Jaw) KKN-OSL-LHR (Stopover) LHR-North America.

I can redeem on LH to fly to FRA to connect to BGO. This is more convenient itinerary in my case than using SK but the KKN-OSL-LHR availability is the issue and in particular, the KKN-OSL segment.

At OSL, I can fly LH to LHR via FRA if SK is unavailable. The alternative appears to be buying a single ticket from KKN to OSL on SK thence either SK or LH to LHR.

If reward seat is unavailable on day 1 (T-330 days), I am just wondering if SK may release some additional seats later based on its past practice.

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Old Oct 5, 09, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Clipper801 View Post
If reward seat is unavailable on day 1 (T-330 days), I am just wondering if SK may release some additional seats later based on its past practice.
Yes, X, P and I inventory as well as discounted pay-for classes such as T, B and Z will typically open up (and zero out) at later dates, especially on long hauls. For european legs you shouldn´t have an issue as SK award availability is now great, especially in booking class P. Is that class (Economy Extra) possible to book with your program?
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Old Oct 6, 09, 6:54 am
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Yes, X, P and I inventory as well as discounted pay-for classes such as T, B and Z will typically open up (and zero out) at later dates, especially on long hauls. For european legs you shouldn´t have an issue as SK award availability is now great, especially in booking class P. Is that class (Economy Extra) possible to book with your program?
No, unfortunately that option is unavailable. I am with AC Aeroplan and is either business or economy. The class "in between" (aka premium economy) cannot be booked!
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Old Mar 8, 10, 7:01 am
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Award seats on SAS are released between 330 and 329 days before departure, but of course award seats are not available on all flights...
Thanks.

BTW reward seats availability appears to be a timing issue from time to time, or a reliability issue with KVS/ANA tool, that now I see reward availability on SK to be quite reasonable on most flights except business class on most "domestic" flights within Norway.
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Old Mar 8, 10, 8:41 am
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Now that this thread has been started, thought I'd tag along with a question:

How about using *A miles on SK metal from EWR-CPH?

Using the ANA tool, one can never find any biz awards available for some reason in the summertime!

Any ideas if they block these - or are redeemed early as it's a popular route?
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Old Mar 8, 10, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by Clipper801 View Post
Thanks.

BTW reward seats availability appears to be a timing issue from time to time, or a reliability issue with KVS/ANA tool, that now I see reward availability on SK to be quite reasonable on most flights except business class on most "domestic" flights within Norway.
there is no business class on domestic flights in Norway.
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Old Mar 8, 10, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by xidar View Post
there is no business class on domestic flights in Norway.
Thanks for the clarification.

I was confused by the availability of C, D and J fares for sale domestically in Norway in KVS (such as the following random date example):

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BGO  Bergen Flesland NO [ENBR]
OSL  Oslo Metro / Oslo Gardermoen NO = OSL TRF RYG [ENGM]
WED  16 Jun 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------
SK         236     BGO   06:10     OSL   07:05     73G  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K0 L0 T0 O0 G9
SK         238     BGO   07:00     OSL   07:55          0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H4 Q9 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0 G9
SK         244     BGO   07:25     OSL   08:20          0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H5 Q9 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0 G9
SK         246     BGO   08:05     OSL   09:00     738  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L9 T0 O0 G9
SK         248     BGO   08:35     OSL   09:25          0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L9 T0 O0 G9
SK         252     BGO   09:20     OSL   10:10     735  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L0 T0 O0 G9
SK         260     BGO   10:30     OSL   11:20     734  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L0 T0 O0 G9
SK         262     BGO   11:40     OSL   12:30     73G  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L0 T0 O0 G9
SK         272     BGO   15:00     OSL   15:50     734  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L9 T9 O0 G9
SK         274     BGO   15:40     OSL   16:30     73G  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L9 T9 O0 G9
SK         276     BGO   16:15     OSL   17:05     73G  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L9 T0 O0 G9
SK         280     BGO   17:55     OSL   18:45     73G  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L0 T0 O0 G9
SK         284     BGO   18:20     OSL   19:10     735  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K7 L0 T0 O0 G9
SK         290     BGO   21:15     OSL   22:05     734  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L9 T0 O0 G9
SK         2325    BGO   17:15     HAU   17:45     F50  0   C9 D0 J0 Y0 S9 B9 E9 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0 G0
 -> SK     319     HAU   18:20     OSL   19:10     73G  0   C9 D9 J9 Y9 S9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 V0 W9 U9 K9 L0 T0 O0 G9
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Old Mar 8, 10, 9:29 am
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They have the business fare buckets, just not the seats in the plane

Either way, it's such a short hop that it don't matter too much; only 309 km (192 miles).
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Old Mar 8, 10, 10:01 am
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They have the business fare buckets, just not the seats in the plane

Either way, it's such a short hop that it don't matter too much; only 309 km (192 miles).
Thanks and I agree that it will not make much of a difference for short flights. Besides, most intra-European business class is merely sitting in the front with the middle seat blocked, plus a snack/meal. The seat is not any wider or extra seat pitch. I made the comments only because I would be flying Transatlantic on a business reward ticket. I'd naturally try to book business class for the onward OSL-BGO if it is offered since I've already "paid" for it with points at business class redemption level!
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Old Mar 8, 10, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by Clipper801 View Post
I'd naturally try to book business class for the onward OSL-BGO if it is offered since I've already "paid" for it with points at business class redemption level!
Understandably.
I would actually think you would get to sit up front anyways and get the highest class possible for a domestic SAS flight; namely Economy Extra. This is the class that's hiding under the fare buckets usually reserved for business.
It is as you describe it though, just sitting up front in the same kinds of seat. You will get food/snacks though and also get some of the perks of business; priority boarding, extra luggage and fast track security.
I am not 100% positive on that you will end in that class though, as I am not familiar with reward bookings through AC. Someone else might know more about that though.

Edit:
Actually I am in doubt about this. I was referring to domestic Denmark routes. Does SAS-Norway not even have Economy Extra? I see different 'classes' than I've ever seen with SAS; 'Happy', 'Flex' and 'Full Flex'

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Old Mar 8, 10, 3:12 pm
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Understandably.
I would actually think you would get to sit up front anyways and get the highest class possible for a domestic SAS flight; namely Economy Extra. This is the class that's hiding under the fare buckets usually reserved for business.
It is as you describe it though, just sitting up front in the same kinds of seat. You will get food/snacks though and also get some of the perks of business; priority boarding, extra luggage and fast track security.
I am not 100% positive on that you will end in that class though, as I am not familiar with reward bookings through AC. Someone else might know more about that though.

Edit:
Actually I am in doubt about this. I was referring to domestic Denmark routes. Does SAS-Norway not even have Economy Extra? I see different 'classes' than I've ever seen with SAS; 'Happy', 'Flex' and 'Full Flex'
right, only difference is the flexibility of your ticket, there is not even Eco+ domestic Norway. No other perks, fast track or priority boarding, and you may end up the same last row as a low fare Happy ticket. Not sure of extra luggage if all the other legs are booked in C though.
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Old Mar 8, 10, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by xidar View Post
right, only difference is the flexibility of your ticket, there is not even Eco+ domestic Norway. No other perks, fast track or priority boarding, and you may end up the same last row as a low fare Happy ticket. Not sure of extra luggage if all the other legs are booked in C though.
Thanks for the info - now I learned something new. I was just making a test booking when I saw that. 'Happy' fare? Seriously? That's a pretty LCC'ish name and not very suitable for SAS imho.
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