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holmedown Oct 12, 2009 1:34 pm

Panorama - Ryanair
 
Anyone watching Panorama now - Ryanair programme ... interesting ??

some of the "hidden" charges.

Online Check in £5.00 per person
Credit card payment £5.00 per person per flight

Forget to print boarding pass at home £40.00 !!!! per person

£1/2 billion last year made from above alone.

CocoPops Oct 12, 2009 1:39 pm

Makes you wonder why people fly with them!

johnny5a Oct 12, 2009 1:39 pm

Not got time to watch it, will catch up on iplayer. Depending on the content of the programme but hasn't this already been covered before by C4

http://www.channel4.com/news/microsi...ing/index.html

BA or bust Oct 12, 2009 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by CocoPops (Post 12610296)
Makes you wonder why people fly with them!

Well they do have their fans. ;)

But my wife (sitting in the other room) is already shouting at the telly! :D

BA or bust Oct 12, 2009 1:53 pm

Not sure I would be very happy about the pilots not having enough time to do their flight plans properly!

Makes you wonder whether they scrimp on the maintenance too! :eek:

Kgmm77 Oct 12, 2009 2:03 pm

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O'Leary played them like fools.

Awful, awful programme. 30 mins of my life I won't get back...

It smacked of a programme that was commissioned, they tried to dig up dirt, didn't get anywhere enough material but decided to run with it anyway.

ajax Oct 12, 2009 2:03 pm

Loved the quote from O'Leary at the end:

"64 million people flew Ryanair last year - which is more than watch Panorama or who watch the BBC."

I see the good CEO has lost the ability to count, as he seems to not realise that maybe - just maybe - the same people fly on Ryanair again and again, just like the same people watch Panorama (or the BBC) again and again. :rolleyes:

I bet if you added up every time I watch the BBC in a year and then added that to every time every other member of the British public watched the BBC in a year, you'd get a lot more than 64 million.

BA or bust Oct 12, 2009 2:04 pm

Well, now it is over..... I feel a bit cheated! The programe did not really say anything new. Not sure what the point of it was. :confused:

Prospero Oct 12, 2009 2:07 pm

Three threads merged into one and a run of the feather duster. That'll be £1 please ;) :)

browserden Oct 12, 2009 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by Kgmm77 (Post 12610528)
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O'Leary played them like fools.

Awful, awful programme. 30 mins of my life I won't get back...

It smacked of a programme that was commissioned, they tried to dig up dirt, didn't get anywhere enough material but decided to run with it anyway.

The channel 4 one was much more interesting, but the BBC still managed to get a stab in at BA near the end.

Also as well as not giving pilots enough time to do their planning they also don't even provide them with water now, never mind food.

Still good to know that guy in Leeds has career aspirations to work for them :rolleyes:

Roger Oct 12, 2009 2:10 pm

What a miserable, poorly presented, badly edited, inaccurate programme! Unworthy of the once great Panorama branding. It made me ashamed to be a licence payer (even if I watched it on my laptop). The fair-minded, independent FTers in the BA forum will recognise what a stitch-up this was. :p

All of the usual inaccuracies came out, though when the dreadful presenter got his face-to-face meeting with MOL he did very badly indeed. :D

Good that they got a real passenger using 2p return flights. Bad that the miserable presenter said most people couldn't book at short notice to benefit from the 2p fares. Wrong, Mr White. The promotional fares have a 14-day advance booking. Bookings at short notice are expensive.

[Not in the programme] Visa Electron cards are used to pay for an astonishing proportion of FR tickets - 35+%? perhaps more. [In the programme] Visa Electron cards are not issued here. :confused: Wrong, Mr White. What is this Visa Electron card in my pocket? The young passenger mentioned his, from Barclays IIRC.

Etc etc etc.

The programme is at www.bbc.co.uk/panorama.e

ajax Oct 12, 2009 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by browserden (Post 12610578)
Still good to know that guy in Leeds has career aspirations to work for them :rolleyes:

Hey, at least the guy in Leeds has career aspirations. :D

The Attenborough programme on right now (after Panorama) is far better IMHO.

EMA ON BA Oct 12, 2009 2:18 pm


Originally Posted by Roger (Post 12610627)
[Not in the programme] Visa Electron cards are used to pay for an astonishing proportion of FR tickets - 35+%? perhaps more. [In the programme] Visa Electron cards are not issued here. :confused: Wrong, Mr White. What is this Visa Electron card in my pocket? The young passenger mentioned his, from Barclays IIRC.

Etc etc etc.

The programme is at www.bbc.co.uk/panorama.e

I think they actually said Visa Electron Debt cards were issued in the UK but not Visa Electron Credit Cards - didn't even know they existed!

Surely they missed a trick by not focussing on Ryanair's handling of irrops?

ian001 Oct 12, 2009 2:23 pm

A pretty pointless programme, didn't tell us anything we didn't know already.

limabean767 Oct 12, 2009 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by Kgmm77 (Post 12610528)
they tried to dig up dirt, didn't get anywhere enough material but decided to run with it anyway.

Think that about sums it up! Typical of Panorama/Dispatchers type program. If Ryanair pilots were not given enough time to do flight planning (even though this is in reality a dispatchers job?) then FR planes would be falling out the sky left, right and centre surley :confused:

I'm also still about confused, about all these so called *hidden* charges Ryanair puts on people. I find there website to be quite detailed in all the charges and in no way tried to hide them. I made some dummy booking, I put in some random days in November (11/12th) and a return to Madrid.

A comparison is difficult because FR use STN wheras BA use LHR, but Ryanair was £45 (of which £10 was paying with my Mastercard) and BA was £131.50 (of which £4.50 was mastercard fee). So an £86.50 fare difference. Now I don't know about you, but I only fly with hand luggage usually, i always check in online. Now BA have moved to giving out bird food on board...

Also, Visa electron cards, in the UK at least are usually issued by a number of banks (e.g. I have a halifax one just for buying Ryanair and easyJet tickets).

I for one find it best to use whatever airline takes you to where you want to go! If I want to go London to Paris, i'll use BA to take me to CDG and not Ryanair who take me to Beauvais! If I want to go to Madrid from the UK i take a direct flight, not 3 stops via Germany just to use LH.

(Prepares to be flamed :cool:)


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