Earn miles on multiple programs for same dine?
#16
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Not sure whether the policy has changed since these immediately preceding posts
I have managed to register without any difficulty all 5 of my credit cards with each of the following Rewards Networks FF programs: AA, UA, NWA, and US Airways.
My best guess is that the policy has changed since 2007.
My best guess is that the policy has changed since 2007.
#17
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Do a test dine and see what happens. Do you get miles in all programs, or just one of the programs, or no programs at all? If just one of the programs, is it the last one you registered that card with, or a different one? If just one of the programs, if you go back and look at the credit cards registered with each program, does it at that point still show the same card registered with multiple programs?
Once they didn't allow you to register a card with another program without first manually removing it from the previous one. You got an error message.
Then IIRC they changed it so that you could register a card in as many programs as you wanted, and it simply removed that card from the previous one when you registered it in an additional one. You got no error message, but if you went back and checked the original program that card was no longer registered there.
Did you go back and verify that it still shows the same card registered in all those programs? If so, the latter method of lockout may have disappeared.
But all that may be simply because their per-dine process can now weed that out. It may be smart enough to know to only issue a dine to one program (whichever program it feels like, among the list you've registered the card for), in which case there's no need to lock out at registration time (tho it might be nice to alert the user who's doing this by mistake!).
#18
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Example: I tried to register a particular card with a particular idine/airline program, and kept getting a cryptic error message. I finally figured out that I had already registered that same card with a different idine/airline program. I deleted the card from that program and was then able to register it with the desired program.
(BTW, there are multiple threads on this same question. Perhaps the threads could be merged....)
#19
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: SoCal; DO-RAGS: Old Gold tagged, PIP, LatPass 1/2, AA 4MM, HH LT Diamond, Marriott Titanium/LT Plat, Omni
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Recently, I ordered a M/C for my 17 year old daughter and hung it on to her Alaska account, in order to keep her miles active.
Subsequently, my M/C Idines were showing up on her account. I did not notice that her credit card account # is the same as mine (not so for Amex, btw), and that by adding her card, Idine automatically disabled my M/C card with the same number. Frankly, I’m surprised that I didn’t get a, “this card is already registered on a different program” kind of message.
Subsequently, my M/C Idines were showing up on her account. I did not notice that her credit card account # is the same as mine (not so for Amex, btw), and that by adding her card, Idine automatically disabled my M/C card with the same number. Frankly, I’m surprised that I didn’t get a, “this card is already registered on a different program” kind of message.
#20
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Recently, I ordered a M/C for my 17 year old daughter and hung it on to her Alaska account, in order to keep her miles active.
Subsequently, my M/C Idines were showing up on her account. I did not notice that her credit card account # is the same as mine (not so for Amex, btw), and that by adding her card, Idine automatically disabled my M/C card with the same number. Frankly, I’m surprised that I didn’t get a, “this card is already registered on a different program” kind of message.
Subsequently, my M/C Idines were showing up on her account. I did not notice that her credit card account # is the same as mine (not so for Amex, btw), and that by adding her card, Idine automatically disabled my M/C card with the same number. Frankly, I’m surprised that I didn’t get a, “this card is already registered on a different program” kind of message.
Perhaps the cryptic error message was actually better!
#21
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I prefer this method - works better in my situation as some local particpants are AMEX-hostile. De-registering a card on one program, and then having to log into the second one to re-register it was a pain!
#22
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: SoCal; DO-RAGS: Old Gold tagged, PIP, LatPass 1/2, AA 4MM, HH LT Diamond, Marriott Titanium/LT Plat, Omni
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Don't get too comfortable, I’m pretty sure it’s a glitch; the CSR seemed surprised that I wasn’t messaged on the duplicate card.
#23
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Since this is a double-dipping kind of thread:
Can you get miles with an AAdvantage AMEX and the dining program? Meaning that you'll get 1 miles/dollar (amex) + 5 miles/dollar (VIP status in dining program)?
You can do it with the HHonors card, correct?
Can you get miles with an AAdvantage AMEX and the dining program? Meaning that you'll get 1 miles/dollar (amex) + 5 miles/dollar (VIP status in dining program)?
You can do it with the HHonors card, correct?
#24
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And you can mix them in any way that you want. Ie, you can earn AA miles from a card while earning UA miles through RN. You can earn Best Western miles from a card while earning Alaska miles thougn RN (I just did a dine like that the other day, because Best Western has no dining program and I have no Alaska card, so it was a reasonable match!).
The only thing that was special about the HHonors AMex at one point is that it used to give extra points at restaurants. So some people liked to use that. However, whether that math really made it worth more than miles or not then, the fact is that extra earning is gone, and now HHonors Amex earns nothing more at restaurants than anywhere else you shop.
The only card that earns more at restaurants right now that I'm aware of is Discover, and that's only if you register and only Oct thru Dec 2009 (Discover has rotatating extra-cashback categories) and it has a cap. But beware: Some restaurants that take Discover don't give miles for Discover, so if using Discover be sure to check the website for each particular restaurant as to whether you'll get miles for Discover, rather than using Discover automatically because you saw the logo at the restaurant.
#25
Join Date: Jul 2001
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I just checked on the HHonors Surpass by AmEx and it gives an extra 3 pts. on grocery, gas and drugstores. But I didn't see 5 for dining.
Have the rewards changed since this post?
Thanks,
gg
#26
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Specifially, 2007 or about 5 years ago.
I have the HHonors American Express (the one with $0 annual fee) and thought it was only 3 points per $.
I just checked on the HHonors Surpass by AmEx and it gives an extra 3 pts. on grocery, gas and drugstores. But I didn't see 5 for dining.
Have the rewards changed since this post?
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Yes, the rewards on the various HHonors credit cards have all changed at least once since 2007, either in terms of how many points you earn or in terms of which categories count and which don't.
I think they used to including dining as a category, but no more.
Btw, even the regular no-fee card HHonors Amex card gives extra points on gas/grocery/drug (GGD), plus phone and internet providors (Verizon and TimeWarner Cable in my case work). But if it once did dining (as I seem to recall), that ended quite a few years ago.
The only card I have that still gives extra points on dining every day is the Marriott Premier Visa from Chase (plus my AA Visa from Citi has double miles on several categories including dining as a temporary promotion through the end of this month, but that might be a targeted promotion). Of note, the Marriott Visa from Chase gives extra points on dining but not GGD, while the Priority Club Visa from Chase gives extra points on GGD but not dining!
I have the HHonors American Express (the one with $0 annual fee) and thought it was only 3 points per $.
I just checked on the HHonors Surpass by AmEx and it gives an extra 3 pts. on grocery, gas and drugstores. But I didn't see 5 for dining.
Have the rewards changed since this post?
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Yes, the rewards on the various HHonors credit cards have all changed at least once since 2007, either in terms of how many points you earn or in terms of which categories count and which don't.
I think they used to including dining as a category, but no more.
Btw, even the regular no-fee card HHonors Amex card gives extra points on gas/grocery/drug (GGD), plus phone and internet providors (Verizon and TimeWarner Cable in my case work). But if it once did dining (as I seem to recall), that ended quite a few years ago.
The only card I have that still gives extra points on dining every day is the Marriott Premier Visa from Chase (plus my AA Visa from Citi has double miles on several categories including dining as a temporary promotion through the end of this month, but that might be a targeted promotion). Of note, the Marriott Visa from Chase gives extra points on dining but not GGD, while the Priority Club Visa from Chase gives extra points on GGD but not dining!