Cathay Pacific JFK-HKG Kosher meals First Class
#16
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Please don't take halakhic advise from Flyertalk. Learn Shulchan Aruch instead. Especially the Remas dealing with buying cooked foods from the European market place.
Wine is not a simple issue. There are cases that it would be nullified up to a sixth. There are more issue than wine. It is not a business that the uneducated should involve themselves in.
Wine is not a simple issue. There are cases that it would be nullified up to a sixth. There are more issue than wine. It is not a business that the uneducated should involve themselves in.
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Please don't take halakhic advise from Flyertalk. Learn Shulchan Aruch instead. Especially the Remas dealing with buying cooked foods from the European market place.
Wine is not a simple issue. There are cases that it would be nullified up to a sixth. There are more issue than wine. It is not a business that the uneducated should involve themselves in.
Wine is not a simple issue. There are cases that it would be nullified up to a sixth. There are more issue than wine. It is not a business that the uneducated should involve themselves in.
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And yes, it´s a shame that they can´t do better, the food looks very sad!
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Those are actually Hermolis Economy / Coach meals
Definitely not "sad" - what do you expect??!!
Last edited by FF; Apr 29, 2011 at 5:28 am
#24
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If the carrier for whatever reason doesnt supply the kosher vendor with their Plates (same ones not used for another carrier so the vendor cant simply have a meal on say CX with AA dishes) then the vendor has no choice but to use what they do for the Coach meals as in ual902s pics
#25
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No, What I did was I just chose the Vegetarian option on the First Class Menu, I will not post the pictures of the Vegetarian options in this Forum as it might be "Maarit Ayin" and Ill say an extra Al Kheit on Yom Kippur! I'm posting a trip report with lots of pictures, in the trip report section next week so you can view what they serve for Veggie in First Class!
#26
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On both of my Lufthansa flights I got real China.
It would be shocking to the previous generation of Jews to hear a Jew say this but the Germans seem to be some of our best friends.
Lufthansa definitely does not cheapen out on kosher meals. They are not looking for the cheapest meals in the air (that award goes to Air China) and are not afraid from paying a little extra to get some of the best kosher food in the air.
Australia and America have good caterers but too many airlines are too cheap to use them for their kosher diners. I wonder how the situation is in the other continents on the world.
It would be shocking to the previous generation of Jews to hear a Jew say this but the Germans seem to be some of our best friends.
Lufthansa definitely does not cheapen out on kosher meals. They are not looking for the cheapest meals in the air (that award goes to Air China) and are not afraid from paying a little extra to get some of the best kosher food in the air.
Australia and America have good caterers but too many airlines are too cheap to use them for their kosher diners. I wonder how the situation is in the other continents on the world.
Last edited by Shimon; Apr 30, 2011 at 10:29 am
#27
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There is no need to be concerned except when you get Stogel or Bangkok Airways on china. Or any boxed meal for that matter.
Sohar and Hermilis's hashkaghot will supervise the china. Hermilis does provide its own cutlery if it can be returned to it. Otherwise, the cutlery may be new sets that the caterer keeps and after it has been used the airline keeps it.
Sohar and Hermilis's hashkaghot will supervise the china. Hermilis does provide its own cutlery if it can be returned to it. Otherwise, the cutlery may be new sets that the caterer keeps and after it has been used the airline keeps it.
#28
Join Date: Mar 2010
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So I wrote to Cathay...
Dear Cathay: I understand that CX uses kosher economy meals for all classes, and I am hoping that you would reconsider your policy and upgrade the kosher first class meal to
a meal fitting first class. It would help enhance our experiance and all
those other people that fly first that only eat kosher and would give CX
a better name and reputation regarding this. thank you for your
consideration in this regard. I look forward to your response. Scincerely Palooza.
And here is their response (13 days later!):
Dear mr Palooza
With regards to your feedback pertaining to Kosher Meal (KSML) served on
Cathay Pacific (CX) flights, we would like to advise that CX provides
one kind of premium KSML for all classes except for flight operating
from New York (JFK). In New York, the supplier provide two kinds of
KSML, one is for First/Business class passengers and the other for
Economy class passengers.
However, customer feedback is important to us as it helps in our
endeavour to improve our service standards and we are grateful to you
for your feedback. Rest assured, a copy of your email has been forwarded
to the relevant department for their perusal.
hopefully we have been able to clarify the matter, however,
for any further assistance or clarification we kindly request you to
contact your nearest Cathay Pacific Airways reservations office.
May we take this opportunity to thank you for choosing Cathay Pacific
and we look forward to the pleasure of welcoming you on board our
flights soon.
Yours sincerely,
Customer Relations
Dear Cathay: I understand that CX uses kosher economy meals for all classes, and I am hoping that you would reconsider your policy and upgrade the kosher first class meal to
a meal fitting first class. It would help enhance our experiance and all
those other people that fly first that only eat kosher and would give CX
a better name and reputation regarding this. thank you for your
consideration in this regard. I look forward to your response. Scincerely Palooza.
And here is their response (13 days later!):
Dear mr Palooza
With regards to your feedback pertaining to Kosher Meal (KSML) served on
Cathay Pacific (CX) flights, we would like to advise that CX provides
one kind of premium KSML for all classes except for flight operating
from New York (JFK). In New York, the supplier provide two kinds of
KSML, one is for First/Business class passengers and the other for
Economy class passengers.
However, customer feedback is important to us as it helps in our
endeavour to improve our service standards and we are grateful to you
for your feedback. Rest assured, a copy of your email has been forwarded
to the relevant department for their perusal.
hopefully we have been able to clarify the matter, however,
for any further assistance or clarification we kindly request you to
contact your nearest Cathay Pacific Airways reservations office.
May we take this opportunity to thank you for choosing Cathay Pacific
and we look forward to the pleasure of welcoming you on board our
flights soon.
Yours sincerely,
Customer Relations
#29
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@ crazypalooza Thanks for writing this letter now CX has now 4 Daily Flights JFK - HKG plus the new ORD-HKG that is more flights then JFK - AMS and JFK - CDG, plus a whole lot of Kosher mealers fly this route as I have done this route twice once in Business and once in First Class, CX must re examine thier First Class and Business Class KSML.
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On both of my Lufthansa flights I got real China.
It would be shocking to the previous generation of Jews to hear a Jew say this but the Germans seem to be some of our best friends.
Lufthansa definitely does not cheapen out on kosher meals. They are not looking for the cheapest meals in the air (that award goes to Air China) and are not afraid from paying a little extra to get some of the best kosher food in the air.
Australia and America have good caterers but too many airlines are too cheap to use them for their kosher diners. I wonder how the situation is in the other continents on the world.
It would be shocking to the previous generation of Jews to hear a Jew say this but the Germans seem to be some of our best friends.
Lufthansa definitely does not cheapen out on kosher meals. They are not looking for the cheapest meals in the air (that award goes to Air China) and are not afraid from paying a little extra to get some of the best kosher food in the air.
Australia and America have good caterers but too many airlines are too cheap to use them for their kosher diners. I wonder how the situation is in the other continents on the world.
SA does a pretty good job in terms of KSML when it comes from South Africa. I don't remember if they provide a different meal in China for C pax. Haven't seen great KSML from Australia yet.