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We have been had!!! - major redemption increase

We have been had!!! - major redemption increase

 
Old Dec 31, 02, 10:17 am
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We have been had!!! - major redemption increase

On my way out of the C class lounge in Zurich today (31 December) I noticed a pile of leaflets about the new Swiss Travel Club.

The reason they kept quiet about it was that the points required for many flights has gone up considerably.

Below are the points for a free ticket from Europe in Y/C/F (all thousand points)

Europe/ North Africa 20/30/NA
Near East 50/75/100
North America 70/105/140
Middle East 80/120/160
Africa 90/135/180
South Asia 90/135/180
Rest of Asia 100/150/200
South America 110/165/220
Australia 160/240/320

The increases seem to be for C class travel although the cost of F to North America seems to have gone down.

The cost of upgrades has risen too (eg internal European has gone from 5K to 10K one way). Essentially now two one way upgrades are the same cost as an economy return.

No mention of the old RTW award and there is no information on other routings (eg travel other than from Europe or local travel on partner airlines).

Stephen
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Old Dec 31, 02, 12:37 pm
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As of 2.31 EST, I can not access the qualiflyer website anymore,

they say the respective website (LX,TP,SN) will be up starting jan 2

Was hoping to read more info on the new rules of the game!
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Old Dec 31, 02, 1:05 pm
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From what I have read in the guide I picked up thsi korning in Zurich, the Swiss Travel Club rules appear to be the same as Qualiflyer (eg you can do the 8 segment trick) it is just that there are fewer airlines with which to do it and it costs more miles!!

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Old Jan 1, 03, 9:57 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by digisup:
Was hoping to read more info on the new rules of the game!</font>
The entire point of this thing is - as has been discussed before - that you don't know what you're getting until it's too late!



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Old Jan 1, 03, 3:01 pm
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Hello,

I also picked up the new Travel-Club-Guide at the C-Class-Lounge at ZRH today. For me, the new FFP is nothing else than a big disappointement: The required miles for an upgrade are now considerably doubled!!!
For example, an upgrade from Y to C to the South East (India) costs now 45'000 Miles (with Qualiflyer 25'000), to the Far East (China, Japan) 50'000!!! (no idea how much miles are required for an upgrade from C to F).
So, an upgrade on this beautiful new FFP costs more than an upgrade on miles&more! If some LX-frequent flyer will move to Lufthansa? I will perhaps do so.

Best Regards Patrick (now in ACC).
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Old Jan 1, 03, 4:47 pm
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What does Y-&gt;C to cost from EUR to US ?
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Old Jan 1, 03, 6:21 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by digisup:
What does Y-&gt;C to cost from EUR to US ?</font>
35K one way

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Old Jan 1, 03, 8:21 pm
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guess this will be my last year as a TCGM
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Old Jan 1, 03, 8:25 pm
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thank god I recently burned 420.000 miles on upgrades and F/C tickets
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Old Jan 2, 03, 3:27 am
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Swiss Travel Club website still not up and running in spite of the promise that it would be up today.

From the STC link on swiss.com:

Your mileage is as good as before


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Who said the Swiss have no sense of humour?
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Old Jan 2, 03, 3:58 am
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Is there anything where the new programme is better than Qualiflyer?? I dream of upgrade coupons for elite members etc...

Will be at ZRH on Saturday, getting hold of that leaflet myself.

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Old Jan 2, 03, 8:44 am
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Just returned from MIA.
Upgraded from Y to F class..!!!


I got the "new Guide" at the lounge.

Not a single good thing inside the Guide.


Airoli,

Nothing better than Qualiflyer in the New Program just a lot more miles to spend for free tkets and upgrades....

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Old Jan 2, 03, 8:53 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by rorschi:
So, an upgrade on this beautiful new FFP costs more than an upgrade on miles&more! If some LX-frequent flyer will move to Lufthansa? I will perhaps do so.

Best Regards Patrick (now in ACC).
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Not to mention that all awards to Africa and Australia are cheaper with M&M! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif
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Old Jan 2, 03, 9:06 am
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no launching offers? wonder what the charts will be at the 2 other programs?
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Old Jan 2, 03, 2:50 pm
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"...At present no miles can be earned on the ticket categories ID, AD, BP, DG, DM, GE, IN, RG or UD as defined by the IATA standards..."


Who has got more info on these classes ?


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