QR Airspace
Jan 12, 2020, 10:20 am
#121
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QR actually had a decent business class fare, far less than any other airline. But only to ADL. I'll be flying on Qantas shortly after I arrive there. I'm still a bit leery, but the more I follow the flights on flightaware and know that they are safely operating, the better I feel. So long as the weather cooperates, I plan to take some pictures out the windows (I assume there is an inflight map so we'll know where we're at?)
Years ago (when I was in the US Army), I flew SEL-BKK-SYD for leave/vacation, on Thai. At the time, US citizens couldn't visit Vietnam, and I had to get special permission to even fly over the country. I took some pictures of the country and I remember seeing beautiful beaches and lush jungles. Thankfully nothing happened to that aircraft, and I hope the flights between DFW and DOH fare similarly.
I followed the DFW-DOH flight again today. They seem to be avoiding Iran; after the flight crossed Turkey it stayed over Iraq all the way to the Persian Gulf:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...340Z/KDFW/OTHH
Although the flight left DFW late (I'm not sure why, I don't believe there was weather), it still arrived at DOH 2 minutes early.
Jan 12, 2020, 1:55 pm
#122
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Posts: 388
Look at QR729 the opposite way. Goes over Iran. Same for LAX flights 739/740 and ORD 721/722 that I quickly glanced at.
Yes, it is the long way around. FlyerTalkers do mileage runs all the time. Nearly every day I hear of someone doing a crazy routing!
QR actually had a decent business class fare, far less than any other airline. But only to ADL. I'll be flying on Qantas shortly after I arrive there. I'm still a bit leery, but the more I follow the flights on flightaware and know that they are safely operating, the better I feel. So long as the weather cooperates, I plan to take some pictures out the windows (I assume there is an inflight map so we'll know where we're at?)
Years ago (when I was in the US Army), I flew SEL-BKK-SYD for leave/vacation, on Thai. At the time, US citizens couldn't visit Vietnam, and I had to get special permission to even fly over the country. I took some pictures of the country and I remember seeing beautiful beaches and lush jungles. Thankfully nothing happened to that aircraft, and I hope the flights between DFW and DOH fare similarly.
I followed the DFW-DOH flight again today. They seem to be avoiding Iran; after the flight crossed Turkey it stayed over Iraq all the way to the Persian Gulf:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...340Z/KDFW/OTHH
Although the flight left DFW late (I'm not sure why, I don't believe there was weather), it still arrived at DOH 2 minutes early.
QR actually had a decent business class fare, far less than any other airline. But only to ADL. I'll be flying on Qantas shortly after I arrive there. I'm still a bit leery, but the more I follow the flights on flightaware and know that they are safely operating, the better I feel. So long as the weather cooperates, I plan to take some pictures out the windows (I assume there is an inflight map so we'll know where we're at?)
Years ago (when I was in the US Army), I flew SEL-BKK-SYD for leave/vacation, on Thai. At the time, US citizens couldn't visit Vietnam, and I had to get special permission to even fly over the country. I took some pictures of the country and I remember seeing beautiful beaches and lush jungles. Thankfully nothing happened to that aircraft, and I hope the flights between DFW and DOH fare similarly.
I followed the DFW-DOH flight again today. They seem to be avoiding Iran; after the flight crossed Turkey it stayed over Iraq all the way to the Persian Gulf:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...340Z/KDFW/OTHH
Although the flight left DFW late (I'm not sure why, I don't believe there was weather), it still arrived at DOH 2 minutes early.
Jan 12, 2020, 3:23 pm
#123
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 89
EU officially banned Iranian airspace for EU Airlines until further decision, banned all flights to Iran and also invited to possibly avoid Iraqi airspace.
Iranian airspace is clearly not safe, the mistake was not just to shoot down a place but to don't close the civilian airspace while missiles were shot in the air. When you have to decide something in few seconds you can do mistakes, but keeping the airspace open while there was a war it's unforgivable and clearly indicated that Iran airspace is controlled by idiots.
QR is forced to fly in this damn airspace, I am sorry for them but I won't fly Qatar until they will find alternatives, I don't trust anymore Iranian airspace, they clearly cannot be trusted anymore.
Iranian airspace is clearly not safe, the mistake was not just to shoot down a place but to don't close the civilian airspace while missiles were shot in the air. When you have to decide something in few seconds you can do mistakes, but keeping the airspace open while there was a war it's unforgivable and clearly indicated that Iran airspace is controlled by idiots.
QR is forced to fly in this damn airspace, I am sorry for them but I won't fly Qatar until they will find alternatives, I don't trust anymore Iranian airspace, they clearly cannot be trusted anymore.
Jan 12, 2020, 9:09 pm
#125
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State department has to mediate some sort of concessions to open up the blockade. Too many American lives potentially at risk flying on QR given the number of O/D USA-DOH flights funneled through either Iraqi or Iranian airspace.
Jan 13, 2020, 9:14 am
#126
Join Date: Oct 2015
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The hysteria in here is quite interesting. People believe Iran are going to make another mistake that will lead to another civilian plane being shot down? This was unfortunately due to one flying low (climbing) that someone has made a grave error with, do people genuinely believe one flying above 30,000 ft is going to be mistaken for a military aircraft and therefore shot down?
Sure if Iran genuinely want to cause WW3 and incur the wrath of most foreign nations then sure they'll go ahead with that, otherwise there's practically zero chance of them shooting down a plane which is at cruising altitude. Performing landings / take-offs are where the (extremely low) risk is, and they'll be very keen to avoid repetition of that event.
Sure if Iran genuinely want to cause WW3 and incur the wrath of most foreign nations then sure they'll go ahead with that, otherwise there's practically zero chance of them shooting down a plane which is at cruising altitude. Performing landings / take-offs are where the (extremely low) risk is, and they'll be very keen to avoid repetition of that event.
Jan 13, 2020, 10:35 am
#127
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Should posters continue to post off-topic, regrettably this thread will have to be Closed, which would be unhelpful to those who require relevant information.
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Feb 2, 2020, 11:41 am
#128
Join Date: Jan 2019
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FYI, I've been keeping an eye on QR763 (DOH to YUL), as I will be taking this flight later in Feb, and as of Jan 29, they are again flying over Iran and not Iraq as they have been recently doing.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...510Z/OTHH/CYUL
Did a quick search of other flights originating out of the USA and it appears that those flights are still flying over Iraq, however I see that flights out of Nth Europe (ARN) are also flying over Iran again.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...510Z/OTHH/CYUL
Did a quick search of other flights originating out of the USA and it appears that those flights are still flying over Iraq, however I see that flights out of Nth Europe (ARN) are also flying over Iran again.
Feb 2, 2020, 11:53 am
#129
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: NC
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Looks like other airlines have also determined that it is now safe to resume flights over Iran.
https://financialtribune.com/article...anian-airspace
https://financialtribune.com/article...anian-airspace
Feb 2, 2020, 10:08 pm
#130
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FYI, I've been keeping an eye on QR763 (DOH to YUL), as I will be taking this flight later in Feb, and as of Jan 29, they are again flying over Iran and not Iraq as they have been recently doing.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...510Z/OTHH/CYUL
Did a quick search of other flights originating out of the USA and it appears that those flights are still flying over Iraq, however I see that flights out of Nth Europe (ARN) are also flying over Iran again.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...510Z/OTHH/CYUL
Did a quick search of other flights originating out of the USA and it appears that those flights are still flying over Iraq, however I see that flights out of Nth Europe (ARN) are also flying over Iran again.
