QR A350 aborts takeoff at JFK [split off from TPG thread]
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I don't think anyone is contending that passengers could assist the pilots in determining what the next best course of action is. They simply want information as to what happened and what the plan is to fix it. And sooner is better than later. I'm not interested in an explanation 30 minutes after the fact.
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Yeah, I've still got no problem with that. We're not talking about the guy taking a coffee break in the middle of an incident. They were working the checklists to get things squared away. ATC is going to ask what's going on so as to be ready to handle whatever is happening. Taking a few seconds to get the correct answer rather than panicking and reacting without all the details is just fine by me.
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It seems the ecam gave a message that turned out to be wrong:
http://www.pprune.org/9213048-post50.html
http://www.pprune.org/9213048-post50.html
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I'd rather have an explanation 30 minutes after the fact than not be around 30 minutes after the fact since someone was busy explaining rather than doing.
Suggestions of what you as a passenger should do during a potential emergency situation - review the safety instruction card, listen for instructions from the crew and mentally go over the best and backup evacuation routes for yourself. When you finish doing that, do it again and again until either you have to execute the plan or someone tells you its ok.
Suggestions of what you should not do - interfere with the crew going about their duties by demanding more information from them or asking for a refill of champagne before you have to hit the slides. Believe me, the crew have "inform the passengers" as an item on their to-do list in these situations. It's just way down the list behind things like "make sure the passengers are still around to be given the information".
Suggestions of what you as a passenger should do during a potential emergency situation - review the safety instruction card, listen for instructions from the crew and mentally go over the best and backup evacuation routes for yourself. When you finish doing that, do it again and again until either you have to execute the plan or someone tells you its ok.
Suggestions of what you should not do - interfere with the crew going about their duties by demanding more information from them or asking for a refill of champagne before you have to hit the slides. Believe me, the crew have "inform the passengers" as an item on their to-do list in these situations. It's just way down the list behind things like "make sure the passengers are still around to be given the information".
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By all accounts, this was a textbook case of that. There was a human error coding the nav database, but it was caught by the ECAM and therefore an RTO was executed to control the situation.