Fair Go! He would be one of the more busy people within QF at the moment I'd presume, and he did already state that he prob. wouldn't get to check in much at all. At least he does(or has done) and I guess we have bruceb to thank for that. I think it's great that he even bothered to come on board several times and read what had to be said and made comments.

I've also had a few personal email exchanged with him and he seems to be not at all black hole oriented...

I'm sure Darren is busy introducing changes to the new QF scheme in response to queries raised right here (well okay, I admit my boarding pass to fantasy land was just issued earlier today - and I didn't get an upgrade!! )

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RichardMEL, UA 1K
A Star Alliance Member.

Darren said in an earlier post that he would be away and not able to check this board for a couple of weeks.

I have been on FT actively for 9 months, and I have NEVER seen a thread to have attracted so many multiple posts due to FT techno problems as this one, and spread over weeks or time. May I suggest a few others post at this thread below and ask Michael@Webflyer to edit the dupes from this QF thread to make it easier to read for all who follow:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum72/HTML/000275.html

I agree with RichardMel that it would be polite to recognise Darren Peisley must be incredibly busy, and be thankful he took as much time as he has to respond to questions. As an example Grahame Atkinson from UA does not come onto the UA board, (much as I wish he would!) so receiving informed input from Bruce and Darren is excellent to see, whenever they have the time.

And Kunoichi, I can see your point, and personally agree with it, but feel this is the way for QF (and undoubtably AN to follow soon) must go. The OZ market is miniscule in the context of the 2 massive alliances, and standardisation is pretty much essential. On the Star * side, UA MP has nearly 60 million members, and compare that to AN. The AA/BA memberships would I imagine exceed that 60 million(?) so QF needs to lineup with them to be consistent with awards etc.


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~ Glen ~

I agree. However, it's not much point asking for further information on something and then not coming back to read it.

And especially ironic when it was information about how Qantas doesn't bother to answer email in a timely manner.

There's not much point, either, when you failed to read what Darren himself wrote (page 4 of this thread):

If you look at the timestamps on his postings he was doing it in his own time (we're talking after 10pm SYD time here) or working bloody late at QF. I'm the last person to admit love for Qantas, but I think it's a bit much to get stuck into someone who is trying to do us all a favour. He *is* the manager of Loyalty Programs and Alliances - this guy is not a CS peon. Heck for all we know QF officially may not be too happy with one of their senior managers posting to a forum like this. At least Darren had the courtesy to say he likely would not be around much, but he has given every indication that he wishes to stay involved.. so let's not make him regret his desire to be helpful, eh?

In my (humble) opinion, it's attitudes like that that will ensure Darren does not come back.

(edited to revise page number ref)

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RichardMEL, UA 1K
A Star Alliance Member.

[This message has been edited by RichardMEL (edited 03-29-2001).]

Firstly, many thanks from me at least to Michael@Webflyer for taking the time to clean out and delete over 100 dead and dupe posts, based on the request in the link above. Makes reading this thread for a new visitor a LOT easier.

Again agree with RichardMel. Darren is NOT an Adam Burke (Hilton) or Starwood Lurker, etc, paid to sit on and monitor these boards full time. He clearly enjoyed the feedback, and took a great deal of his time to outline the new plan and answer questions for those here.

I have looked at QF in an entirely new light since this thread, and us recognising that input will I am sure go a long way to ensuring future input. These guys at this level are super busy, and any time they care to share might be welcomed.

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~ Glen ~

Hi Koru Flyer,

<<Also one would have thought that QF would keep to the standard that connexions are 4 hours for domestic and 24 hours for international. Where did the 8 hour logic come from?>>

You are right - I think the 4/24 hr rule still applies - I was trying to remember what is was while writing the post. The key issue is that you are not penalised for different routings.

Cheers... Bruce

OK the way we calculate this is to provide that each itimerary must include the distance to origin. Also, on a circle journey which is what we call your example, there is no obvious point of turmaround. In this case we do actually allow one stopover for free as we assume one of these is a point of turnaround. Therefore, one stopover would be charged for on this itinerary. Because the journey starts and ends in Sydney it is not treated as a oneway. Confusing isn't it. Making the program simpler is a real challenge.

I think if people want faster web responses to queries, QF should employ me I will be happy to answer all questions at any time of day or not (sleep patterns allowing ).

My rates are:

$x/hr (negotiable )
QF employee status w/ appropriate ID tix access
jupseat approved pass

that's all



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RichardMEL, UA 1K
A Star Alliance Member.

Hi RichardMEL,

<<QF employee status w/ appropriate ID tix access >>

You don't want one of these... often means you are left at the airport.... sometimes for days

Cheers... Bruce

Okay, ammended conditions:

* $x/hr (negotiable)
* QF Gold status (new program) for lifetime of employment, Comp. Chairmans club status, QF Club membership
* 1000 miles(min) for each question answered to satisfaction

I'm sure Darren can work something out

(we now return you to your conversation of choice!)




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RichardMEL, UA 1K
A Star Alliance Member.

Now lets see .... trading or selling or bartering coupons and upgrades and miles is all illegal, but not sure about your TIME?



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~ Glen ~

Makes sense. I have one question though: You said earlier that open jaws would be allowed. Would they also have to include the distance back to the origin, even though it's not being travelled?

Very extensive discussion of new plan here:

http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/gazette/april01.htm

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~ Glen ~