BA-QF transit at SYD question
Oct 31, 2007, 10:53 am
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BA-QF transit at SYD question
My partner will be arriving from LHR on a BA FC award ticket and transferring to a QF domestic flight (most likely SYD-MEL) - probably a red e-deal fare She doesn't have any status in OW.
Questions:
1) Are there any QF1-399 flights left for SYD-MEL so she can just clear in MEL?
2) If not, how long should she allow herself to clear entry at SYD (0515 arrival) and get herself to the domestic terminal? Also v-v when she flies ADL-SYD before catching the BA return flight?
3) Will QF provide interterminal transportation for BA-QF and QF-BA?
4) Any lounge access w/o OW status since she flew in on FC?
5) Will QF allow earlier standby if she has no checked bags?
6) Will QF reaccommodate her if the BA flight arrives late and/or she gets caught up in long immigration lines?
Thanks
Questions:
1) Are there any QF1-399 flights left for SYD-MEL so she can just clear in MEL?
2) If not, how long should she allow herself to clear entry at SYD (0515 arrival) and get herself to the domestic terminal? Also v-v when she flies ADL-SYD before catching the BA return flight?
3) Will QF provide interterminal transportation for BA-QF and QF-BA?
4) Any lounge access w/o OW status since she flew in on FC?
5) Will QF allow earlier standby if she has no checked bags?
6) Will QF reaccommodate her if the BA flight arrives late and/or she gets caught up in long immigration lines?
Thanks
Last edited by YVR Cockroach; Oct 31, 2007 at 11:10 am
Oct 31, 2007, 11:18 am
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My partner will be arriving from LHR on a BA FC award ticket and transferring to a QF domestic flight (most likely SYD-MEL) - probably a red e-deal fare She doesn't have any status in OW.
Questions:
1) Are there any QF1-399 flights left for SYD-MEL so she can just clear in MEL?
Questions:
1) Are there any QF1-399 flights left for SYD-MEL so she can just clear in MEL?
2) If not, how long should she allow herself to clear entry at SYD and get herself to the domestic terminal? Also v-v when she flies ADL-SYD before catching the BA return flight?
3) Will QF provide interterminal transportation for BA-QF and QF-BA?
4) Any lounge access w/o OW status since she flew in on FC?
http://www.oneworld.com/ow/ffp/loung...lass-of-travel
Originally Posted by OneWorld website
Lounge Access by Class of Travel
Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline).
Customers flying in Economy class on the domestic or intra-European segment to connect to or from a oneworld longhaul First or Business Class flight can also use the lounge applicable to the class in which they are travelling the longhaul segment.
Exception: American Airlines AAdvantage® Program members, regardless of their tier status, may not use lounges when travelling solely on North American itineraries (defined as within or between the USA, Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). In these cases, access rules are governed by American Airlines' own rules (ie paid lounge-access membership).
Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline).
Customers flying in Economy class on the domestic or intra-European segment to connect to or from a oneworld longhaul First or Business Class flight can also use the lounge applicable to the class in which they are travelling the longhaul segment.
Exception: American Airlines AAdvantage® Program members, regardless of their tier status, may not use lounges when travelling solely on North American itineraries (defined as within or between the USA, Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). In these cases, access rules are governed by American Airlines' own rules (ie paid lounge-access membership).
MAKE SURE YOU PRINT THIS OW PAGE OUT AND HAVE IT READY TO PRESENT WHEN TRYING TO GET INTO THE LOUNGE.
The difference here though is that LHR-SYD in F is in a different PNR to SYD-MEL in Y, so there might be some persuasion necessary. I think you are within the rules, the rules don't say that you need to be on the same booking, just that you are flying one leg in Y and the other leg in J or F. You qualify.
5) Will QF allow earlier standby if she has no checked bags?
6) Will QF reaccommodate her if the BA flight arrives late and/or she gets caught up in long immigration lines?
I hope you have a good trip.
Dave
Last edited by thadocta; Oct 31, 2007 at 8:39 pm Reason: BA flight numbers the wrong way around.
Oct 31, 2007, 1:45 pm
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She's flying in on BA15 (and leaving on BA16, both via SIN - inventory on BA9/10 is nearly impossible get get, reportedly). BA15 arrives 50 minutes of BA 9 and QF 2 (bizarrely they have identical schedules for BKK-SYD), but 5 minutes behind QF6.
I can't find any QF1-399 flights on the timetable for Sept. '08.
Given the above information, would an 0800 or 0830 domestic departure be safe to book?
And on the return (most likely from ADL) for a 1530 departure, I imagine a noon arrival from ADL is preferable to a 1310 one?
Thanks again
I can't find any QF1-399 flights on the timetable for Sept. '08.
Given the above information, would an 0800 or 0830 domestic departure be safe to book?
And on the return (most likely from ADL) for a 1530 departure, I imagine a noon arrival from ADL is preferable to a 1310 one?
Thanks again
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Oct 31, 2007, 2:36 pm
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Even the 06:30, 06:45, 07:00, 07:15 or 07:30 services are likely to be fine although availability maybe a little tight on those peak morning flights. Also if the OPs partner is flying in F, getting off the plane will generally mean getting through customs pretty quickly even if on a foreign passport.
Oct 31, 2007, 2:42 pm
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Oct 31, 2007, 2:49 pm
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http://airtahitinui-usa.com/Airports/sydney.asp
Originally Posted by TN
- From Domestic Flight to Domestic Flight: 30 min
- From Domestic Flight to International Flight: 1h
- From International Flight to Domestic Flight: 1h15
- From International Flight to International Flight: 1h
- From Domestic Flight to International Flight: 1h
- From International Flight to Domestic Flight: 1h15
- From International Flight to International Flight: 1h
Oct 31, 2007, 3:20 pm
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Even the 06:30, 06:45, 07:00, 07:15 or 07:30 services are likely to be fine although availability maybe a little tight on those peak morning flights. Also if the OPs partner is flying in F, getting off the plane will generally mean getting through customs pretty quickly even if on a foreign passport.
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Oct 31, 2007, 3:57 pm
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As someone who did exactly the above on Sat (in J on BA15, seperate QF booking up to BNE) I would not book an onward flight before 7.30/8.00).
Immigration empty, even for non Australian citizens / residents, but queue for customers took about 15-20 mins.
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Immigration empty, even for non Australian citizens / residents, but queue for customers took about 15-20 mins.
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Oct 31, 2007, 4:09 pm
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Oct 31, 2007, 4:48 pm
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The red and green lines now seem to be one of the same (especially if Foot & Mouth is an issue at the time). An extra hour at the domestic terminal in SYD will allow time for a shower.
Oct 31, 2007, 8:45 pm
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You also have to factor in the possibility of the flight arriving late - even 1/2 an hour could become critical. I would give yourself plenty of time so if it is late then you aren't sitting on the plane stressing out about your onward flight not a nice feeling even in F.
Oct 31, 2007, 11:53 pm
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There is no more red and green queue. Everybody has to go through the main queue now which has increased waiting times quite a bit. The only chance sometimes is when they have opened the small door close to the oversized baggage area.
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