In Memoriam
So we now have Virgin Blue quoting on time departures and QF quoting on time arrivals.
Frankly I don't care how late or early my flight departs but I do care how close to time I am going to arrive at my destination.
So once again DJ will be blowing its own trumpet about itself and this time on how great its on time departures are but if I am stuck in a holding pattern or ATC delays that on time departure means nothing if I am late arriving.
Frankly I don't care how late or early my flight departs but I do care how close to time I am going to arrive at my destination.
So once again DJ will be blowing its own trumpet about itself and this time on how great its on time departures are but if I am stuck in a holding pattern or ATC delays that on time departure means nothing if I am late arriving.
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ditto.Originally Posted by mikalee
Frankly I don't care how late or early my flight departs but I do care how close to time I am going to arrive at my destination.
Also noted the virgin blue site that has ontime reports uses pics of aircraft with 4 engines... (its the little things)
So I suppose "departure" is "off blocks" and if there's a mechanical problem, the techs fix it without a return to gate? If so, it makes the "departure" a nonsense.
I prefer the AA system which shows the probability of a specific flight being on time. More useful for the pAAssenger than an airline bulking all movements into a system wide average.
Must re-read the book "how to lie with statistics".
I prefer the AA system which shows the probability of a specific flight being on time. More useful for the pAAssenger than an airline bulking all movements into a system wide average.
Must re-read the book "how to lie with statistics".
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Quite so. But ATC delays are not the airline's fault, but on-time departures are to its credit.Originally Posted by mikalee
So once again DJ will be blowing its own trumpet about itself and this time on how great its on time departures are but if I am stuck in a holding pattern or ATC delays that on time departure means nothing if I am late arriving.
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Not always. If there is going to, say, be a 20 minute delay before the plane can leave the gate, which is better....Everyone forced onboard and door closed on time and then having to sit in cattle seating for the 20 min delay ( but at least the stats look good ) or for the airline to delay boarding for 20 minutes but the stats showing a late departure?Originally Posted by Craig
Quite so. But ATC delays are not the airline's fault, but on-time departures are to its credit.
Dave
And let's not forget that the cheecky sods will not put the peddle down to make up time as that all costs too much money, or fly at a higher altitude as that too costs too much money. Rather give you a bumpy ride through the storm than waste money on tryng to get you there on time. So long as we leave on time we may as well take the scenic route, besides theres no service to be had so strap yourselves in my sweeties we're in for a rough ride. 
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If you are an airline that controls lots of slots though, you can massage it such that ATC delays affect your flight much less than anyone else ..Originally Posted by Craig
Quite so. But ATC delays are not the airline's fault, but on-time departures are to its credit.
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Now, 20 mins = 3 x HP (including empying time) or 4 x Scotch/Dry, so I'll take the 20 min delayed boarding over the 20 min sitting on the plane on the ground anyday. And an SMS message to let me know is even better. (see I knew we could get this thread back on topic).Originally Posted by Dave Noble
... or for the airline to delay boarding for 20 minutes but the stats showing a late departure?