Powerbank confiscated in BKK
Apr 17, 2018, 11:34 pm
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Apr 18, 2018, 12:36 am
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Lithium Ion batteries (rechargeable) - exceeding 100Wh and up to 160Wh
ImportantLithium Ion batteries must be declared during check-In
Requirements
- No more than two spare batteries.
- The battery terminals must be protected e.g. taping over the exposed terminals.
Email [email protected] to request an airline approval.
Apr 18, 2018, 2:27 am
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I bought from ebay http://r.ebay.com/Xdqjmw where it says Amp Hours: 6-8 hours. Using Qantas calculation ("Note: Watt hours (Wh) are determined by multiplying the voltage (V) by the amp hours (Ah). ie. 12V x 5Ah = 60Wh") this makes it 160Wh so within the limit (just). As explained earlier (with link provided) the 50000mAh is meaningless (and Qantas knows this hence the use of Wh). I had never seen the MaxOak website that puts it at 185Wh
The reality is that Qantas were happy to take it but this particular airport was not. Every other airport is happy to take it (I have flown with it ~50 times). Qantas argument was that the airport was liable not them.
Of course, now I know that it is 185Wh I will not try to fly with it again. However, following Qantas guidelines (to determine Wh by multiplying voltage and Amp Hours) it was reasonable of me to assume it was OK and therefore unreasonable of Qantas not to compensate me for its loss (imho - but I realise I'm not getting much support for this view here
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The reality is that Qantas were happy to take it but this particular airport was not. Every other airport is happy to take it (I have flown with it ~50 times). Qantas argument was that the airport was liable not them.
Of course, now I know that it is 185Wh I will not try to fly with it again. However, following Qantas guidelines (to determine Wh by multiplying voltage and Amp Hours) it was reasonable of me to assume it was OK and therefore unreasonable of Qantas not to compensate me for its loss (imho - but I realise I'm not getting much support for this view here
).at 3.7v and 50 Ah , it is 185Wh as listed by the manufacturer - the 50000 is not meaningless , but is exactly what the manufacturer says it is - 50,000 mAh = 50 Ah
50,000 ÷ 1,000 ≠ 5 , which is what would be required for the item to be 5Ah
Any Qantas agent that said that Qantas was ok with it was incorrect since it is listed under dangerous goods
Qantas owed no compensation for refusal to carry goods listed in its dangerous goods list
Last edited by Dave Noble; Apr 18, 2018 at 2:32 am
Apr 20, 2018, 7:17 am
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I bought from ebay http://r.ebay.com/Xdqjmw where it says Amp Hours: 6-8 hours.
Apr 20, 2018, 2:54 pm
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The ebay seller does say in its advert at the top
and then only later on in the description under technical referred to a running time of 6-8 hours
Regardless of what the person advertising stated there, it also stated Battery Size: 50000mAh at the top and Total Capacity: 50000mAh in technical
Even so, it doesn't matter how ebay seller may have misdescribed it there, the item is described by the manufacturer as being 185Wh and also states that it cannot be taken on aeroplanes
Originally Posted by ebay seller
Item specifics
Amp Hours: 6-8 hours
Amp Hours: 6-8 hours
and then only later on in the description under technical referred to a running time of 6-8 hours
Originally Posted by ebay seller
Charging Time: 6-8 hours
Running Time: 6-8 hours
Running Time: 6-8 hours
Even so, it doesn't matter how ebay seller may have misdescribed it there, the item is described by the manufacturer as being 185Wh and also states that it cannot be taken on aeroplanes
Apr 20, 2018, 4:01 pm
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Apr 20, 2018, 4:47 pm
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Lithium Ion batteries (rechargeable) - exceeding 100Wh and up to 160Wh
ImportantLithium Ion batteries must be declared during check-In
Requirements
- No more than two spare batteries.
- The battery terminals must be protected e.g. taping over the exposed terminals.
Email [email protected] to request an airline approval.
I often take more than 2
1 spare for my Bose headphone
2 for my phone