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Old Apr 18, 18, 12:34 am
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At 160Wh, you still require written approval from the airline once it is over 100.
Where did it say that? I can't see that.
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Old Apr 18, 18, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by sam View Post
Where did it say that? I can't see that.

Lithium Ion batteries (rechargeable) - exceeding 100Wh and up to 160Wh

Important

Lithium Ion batteries must be declared during check-In





Requirements
  • No more than two spare batteries.
  • The battery terminals must be protected e.g. taping over the exposed terminals.
Lithium ion batteries over 160Wh are forbidden as passenger baggage and must be sent as freight.

Email [email protected] to request an airline approval.
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Old Apr 18, 18, 3:27 am
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I bought from ebay http://r.ebay.com/Xdqjmw where it says Amp Hours: 6-8 hours. Using Qantas calculation ("Note: Watt hours (Wh) are determined by multiplying the voltage (V) by the amp hours (Ah). ie. 12V x 5Ah = 60Wh") this makes it 160Wh so within the limit (just). As explained earlier (with link provided) the 50000mAh is meaningless (and Qantas knows this hence the use of Wh). I had never seen the MaxOak website that puts it at 185Wh

The reality is that Qantas were happy to take it but this particular airport was not. Every other airport is happy to take it (I have flown with it ~50 times). Qantas argument was that the airport was liable not them.

Of course, now I know that it is 185Wh I will not try to fly with it again. However, following Qantas guidelines (to determine Wh by multiplying voltage and Amp Hours) it was reasonable of me to assume it was OK and therefore unreasonable of Qantas not to compensate me for its loss (imho - but I realise I'm not getting much support for this view here ).
It doesn't matter what someone on ebay says that it is - the ebay seller listed the mAH and the voltage at a level that would still lead to a Wh that exceeds Qantas's limit - voltage 5V and aH of 50 = 250 -- not sure how it is reasonable to think that it is ok

at 3.7v and 50 Ah , it is 185Wh as listed by the manufacturer - the 50000 is not meaningless , but is exactly what the manufacturer says it is - 50,000 mAh = 50 Ah

50,000 1,000 ≠ 5 , which is what would be required for the item to be 5Ah

Any Qantas agent that said that Qantas was ok with it was incorrect since it is listed under dangerous goods

Qantas owed no compensation for refusal to carry goods listed in its dangerous goods list

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Old Apr 20, 18, 8:17 am
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I bought from ebay http://r.ebay.com/Xdqjmw where it says Amp Hours: 6-8 hours.
No it doesn't. It says "Running Time: 6-8 hours".
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Old Apr 20, 18, 3:54 pm
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No it doesn't. It says "Running Time: 6-8 hours".
The ebay seller does say in its advert at the top

Originally Posted by ebay seller
Item specifics
Amp Hours: 6-8 hours

and then only later on in the description under technical referred to a running time of 6-8 hours

Originally Posted by ebay seller
Charging Time: 6-8 hours
Running Time: 6-8 hours
Regardless of what the person advertising stated there, it also stated Battery Size: 50000mAh at the top and Total Capacity: 50000mAh in technical

Even so, it doesn't matter how ebay seller may have misdescribed it there, the item is described by the manufacturer as being 185Wh and also states that it cannot be taken on aeroplanes
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Old Apr 20, 18, 4:26 pm
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I suspect OP has seen the light...
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Old Apr 20, 18, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post
I suspect OP has seen the light...
Or now has a better understanding of Ohms Law (and Qantas dangerous goods policy)

Glad Qantas caught it when they did, what a risky scenario.
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Old Apr 20, 18, 5:04 pm
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No it doesn't. It says "Running Time: 6-8 hours".
The listing does say in error: Amp Hours: 6-8 hours
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Old Apr 20, 18, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post

Lithium Ion batteries (rechargeable) - exceeding 100Wh and up to 160Wh

Important

Lithium Ion batteries must be declared during check-In





Requirements
  • No more than two spare batteries.
  • The battery terminals must be protected e.g. taping over the exposed terminals.
Lithium ion batteries over 160Wh are forbidden as passenger baggage and must be sent as freight.

Email [email protected] to request an airline approval.
interesting about the 2 spare batteries
I often take more than 2
1 spare for my Bose headphone
2 for my phone
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Old Apr 20, 18, 6:03 pm
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Exceeding 100Wh?
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Old Apr 20, 18, 6:03 pm
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I'm glad this item was caught and confiscated.
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Old Apr 22, 18, 1:11 pm
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The listing does say in error: Amp Hours: 6-8 hours
So it does, I missed that and only saw the description under the "Technical" heading.
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