Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Sep 6, 2022, 6:51 pm
#736
Join Date: May 2001
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 1,334
Of course everyone is going to have their own opinion, but I had the same reaction during my visit two weeks ago. I was just at the AA LAX Flagship Lounge this weekend, and actually preferred the food at the buffet there to what I had at the QF F Lounge. (My SO was with me for both visits and agreed.)
Sep 6, 2022, 8:01 pm
#737
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,703
Sep 7, 2022, 12:13 am
#738
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1K MM, AA EXP, BA Silver, Marriott Plat., Hertz Pres. Circle, Avis First
Posts: 917
Can anyone confirm recent openings hours? I was there in the morning (8am or so) a few weeks ago and it was closed. What time does it open?
Sep 7, 2022, 12:26 am
#739
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: mostly MEL
Programs: QF WP LTG, HHonors Diamond, NZ Gold
Posts: 1,750
Regards,
BD
Sep 8, 2022, 11:59 pm
#740
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: bay area, ca
Programs: UA plat, , aa plat, marriott LT titanium
Posts: 4,833
Is Alaska air now a full one world airline? I'm flying hnd-lax (F JL), then connecting to lax-sfo same day. According to the wiki I should have access to F lounge - but a few years ago somehow Alaska wasn't "really" one world. I'm confused.
Sep 9, 2022, 3:18 am
#743
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: LAX/NYC
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Posts: 566
Sep 10, 2022, 1:32 am
#745
Join Date: Feb 2020
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Posts: 1,771
I am pretty sure the wiki says that AA status won’t get you in.
Sep 10, 2022, 7:04 am
#746
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: SFO
Programs: AY Plat, LH FTL
Posts: 7,374
Your AA status does not permit admittance unless you have a qualifying flight. J to MIA isn't a qualifying flight.
Sep 10, 2022, 11:11 am
#747
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL Plat, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond Amb
Posts: 7,487
Not related to admittance rules, but is your LAX-SFO on AA or AS? Either way, just keep in mind it’ll be a bit of a trek to your gate, either T6 for AS or the Regional Terminal (Eagle’s Nest) for AA.
Sep 10, 2022, 11:46 am
#748
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 205
And from the Wiki:
2. AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
I guess I should have said, “combination of status and itinerary.” 🫢
Last edited by critterchick; Sep 10, 2022 at 12:10 pm
Sep 10, 2022, 12:31 pm
#749
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,546
The AA rules state that you do have access to first class lounges operated by One World carriers when travelling internationally on a One World carrier as a One World Emerald (which maps to AA Platinum Pro). The fact of your travels being in J vs. Y is wholly irrelevant. The fact of you departing LAX on an AA domestic flight as a AA elite does not invoke the AA One World North America exception policy as that policy applies only when travelling solely in North America. So, the rules are clear that you do get QF LAX F lounge access in your situation.
The only hiccup is that the rules are stated without such self-evident clarity that an average airport lounge worker would be guaranteed to interpret properly. Further, QF F lounge has been known to not follow the rules. So, just be prepared for a fight (with the knowledge that you are in the right).
The only hiccup is that the rules are stated without such self-evident clarity that an average airport lounge worker would be guaranteed to interpret properly. Further, QF F lounge has been known to not follow the rules. So, just be prepared for a fight (with the knowledge that you are in the right).
Sep 10, 2022, 1:43 pm
#750
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 205
The AA rules state that you do have access to first class lounges operated by One World carriers when travelling internationally on a One World carrier as a One World Emerald (which maps to AA Platinum Pro). The fact of your travels being in J vs. Y is wholly irrelevant. The fact of you departing LAX on an AA domestic flight as a AA elite does not invoke the AA One World North America exception policy as that policy applies only when travelling solely in North America. So, the rules are clear that you do get QF LAX F lounge access in your situation.
The only hiccup is that the rules are stated without such self-evident clarity that an average airport lounge worker would be guaranteed to interpret properly. Further, QF F lounge has been known to not follow the rules. So, just be prepared for a fight (with the knowledge that you are in the right).
The only hiccup is that the rules are stated without such self-evident clarity that an average airport lounge worker would be guaranteed to interpret properly. Further, QF F lounge has been known to not follow the rules. So, just be prepared for a fight (with the knowledge that you are in the right).