Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Nov 23, 2022, 12:59 pm
#826
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: NYC, SEA
Programs: Hyatt Glob, Marriott Titanium, AA EXP, DL PM, AS 100k (fake), B6 M3 (fake), BA Gold (fake), UA FO.
Posts: 740
Just tried visiting today on an AA FF transcon. Can confirm that they no longer accept these tickets as valid for entry. I spoke with an agent who seemed highly competent and not at all power tripping. She informed that AA has specifically directed them to stop accepting transcon F tickets as they do not want to pay anymore (which seems consistent with AA preparing to jettison F altogether). She proactively acknowledged that the oneworld website suggests that there is access, but stated that that is in fact inaccurate. IMHO I am very inclined to believe that transcon F will no longer get access anymore.
Nov 23, 2022, 4:29 pm
#827
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
Great review
Nov 24, 2022, 9:01 am
#829
Suspended
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Nov 25, 2022, 2:47 pm
#832
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
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Posts: 6,087
And they used to at LAX too..
Nov 28, 2022, 12:23 pm
#833
Join Date: Jul 1999
Programs: QF WP, AA EXP
Posts: 3,520
If you were only AA EXP it would not, since EI is not a part of oneWorld, so this wouldn't be an international itinerary that AA EXP would grant access. If you were flying BA over the pond it would.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:26 pm
#834
Join Date: Jul 1999
Programs: QF WP, AA EXP
Posts: 3,520
Nov 28, 2022, 1:25 pm
#835
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,705
At any rate, cant wait to finally try the food at this lounge after being wrongly denied 3 different times pre Covid. I have yet to have a truly good meal in a US airport lounge. FFD is a joke, as far as the actual food. I was let down even at AF LP lunch but their scrambled eggs for breakfast were amazing.
Nov 28, 2022, 2:48 pm
#836
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: LA/NY/CHI
Programs: AA EXP, AS 100K, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,876
DP: tried accessing the lounge as OWE with both AA and AS, flying FJ. Was told that I was not eligible since I was not Emerald with one of the sponsoring airlines. This seems to be in line with the published policy, although differs from some of the previous reports and from OMAAT's experience
Nov 28, 2022, 3:45 pm
#837
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,705
DP: tried accessing the lounge as OWE with both AA and AS, flying FJ. Was told that I was not eligible since I was not Emerald with one of the sponsoring airlines. This seems to be in line with the published policy, although differs from some of the previous reports and from OMAAT's experience
Nov 28, 2022, 6:01 pm
#838
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: LA/NY/CHI
Programs: AA EXP, AS 100K, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,876
Flying FJ in J? I have that scenario coming up in early 2023 was a bit confused on which lounge I would use. I recall the OMAAT article saying FJ has a deal with the Star Alliance but also b/c of OW connect you can get to OW J lounge also? Both are nice, as long as its not the Sky Team one.
Was able to access the OW J lounge next door based on the ticketed cabin. But I believe lounge access based on status is only applicable to the few 'sponsoring airlines'
Nov 28, 2022, 8:17 pm
#839
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,705
okay thanks, good to know. So I'll plan on OW J but if OMAAT article info is still current FJ J allows access to Star Alliance due to a special arrangement so that would be even nicer.
Nov 30, 2022, 3:31 pm
#840
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: LA/NY/CHI
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They did provide invitation to the *A lounge as well. Opted for the OW one instead...totally forgot the *A one has a nice outdoor terrace...