The end of JASA'a
Mar 27, 2014, 1:43 am
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The end of JASA'a
Just got this by email. Read the last part.
We know how important it is for you to be rewarded when you fly. It's also important that the reward should reflect the value of your fare. So, we're making changes to how you earn in the air.
It's all about creating a fairer, more simplified program, designed to align the number of Qantas Points1 and Status credits2 you earn more closely with the fare you pay, where you fly and the airline you choose.
Effective for travel from 1 July 2014, the number of Qantas Points and Status credits you earn will change when you fly with Qantas and Jetstar Airlines. Put simply, these changes will mean that you'll earn more Qantas Points and Status credits when you choose more flexible fares. At the same time, we're reducing the Qantas Points you'll earn on our lower fares to reflect your spend.
While we're making changes in the air, rest assured this does not affect your current points balance, or the way you earn with our broad range of partners on the ground. And, when it's time to redeem, there's no change to the number of points you need for a Classic Award3 or how you use your points for your chosen reward.4
Our commitment is to offer you the most comprehensive, rewarding loyalty program in Australia, wherever your journey takes you.
As these and other changes, including Status credit earn with other partner airlines, may affect you, we suggest you take a look at all the details, available on qantas.com
Yours sincerely,
The Qantas Frequent Flyer Team
A change to selected Any Seat Award bookings
From 1 July 2014, we're removing the ability to make an Any Seat Award booking on Qantas flights using Classic Award booking classes3 ( X, Z, U or P). Existing bookings will not be affected by this change.
It's all about creating a fairer, more simplified program, designed to align the number of Qantas Points1 and Status credits2 you earn more closely with the fare you pay, where you fly and the airline you choose.
Effective for travel from 1 July 2014, the number of Qantas Points and Status credits you earn will change when you fly with Qantas and Jetstar Airlines. Put simply, these changes will mean that you'll earn more Qantas Points and Status credits when you choose more flexible fares. At the same time, we're reducing the Qantas Points you'll earn on our lower fares to reflect your spend.
While we're making changes in the air, rest assured this does not affect your current points balance, or the way you earn with our broad range of partners on the ground. And, when it's time to redeem, there's no change to the number of points you need for a Classic Award3 or how you use your points for your chosen reward.4
Our commitment is to offer you the most comprehensive, rewarding loyalty program in Australia, wherever your journey takes you.
As these and other changes, including Status credit earn with other partner airlines, may affect you, we suggest you take a look at all the details, available on qantas.com
Yours sincerely,
The Qantas Frequent Flyer Team
A change to selected Any Seat Award bookings
From 1 July 2014, we're removing the ability to make an Any Seat Award booking on Qantas flights using Classic Award booking classes3 ( X, Z, U or P). Existing bookings will not be affected by this change.
Mar 27, 2014, 1:50 am
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I just got the same email.
What is a JASA? I've only used points for international upgrades and points + pay bookings.
There is a link on the 'Airline Earning Table' page titled "New earn rates apply (for Qantas & Jetstar Airlines from 1 July 2014.)" which currently leads to a 404 error page.
Working link:
http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/...hanges-to-earn
What is a JASA? I've only used points for international upgrades and points + pay bookings.
There is a link on the 'Airline Earning Table' page titled "New earn rates apply (for Qantas & Jetstar Airlines from 1 July 2014.)" which currently leads to a 404 error page.
Working link:
http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/...hanges-to-earn
Mar 27, 2014, 2:14 am
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Getting an Any Time Award seat at the Classic rate, with a bit higher cash component than booking a Classic award. It attracts SCs as if it were a cash booking. I think some people call it marginal ASA.
In other words, a very cheap way of earning SCs for a relatively small number of points and cash.
In other words, a very cheap way of earning SCs for a relatively small number of points and cash.
Mar 27, 2014, 2:17 am
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More than what is a Jasa... what is it that the JASA is having the end of ( the apostrophe tells me there is something missing 
)
Qantas has had an anachronism that any seat awards have been able to be booked in an award booking class and then have earned miles and status credits as per a paid booking
The removal of this situation seems eminently sensible to me
Looking at the new earning table, Qantas has done something I thought would be almost impossible to try and get away with; it is making the scheme even worse value than it is now
)Qantas has had an anachronism that any seat awards have been able to be booked in an award booking class and then have earned miles and status credits as per a paid booking
The removal of this situation seems eminently sensible to me
Looking at the new earning table, Qantas has done something I thought would be almost impossible to try and get away with; it is making the scheme even worse value than it is now
Mar 27, 2014, 2:18 am
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The company's financial troubles have hit the Qantas Frequent Flyer program, with a set of devaluations from 1 July.
Mileage earning on normal fares (aka "deep discount economy" in Qantas terminology) is down by about 30%.
SC's earnt on partner flights to/from Australia (Cathay, LAN etc) appear to be down by about half.
Mileage earning on normal fares (aka "deep discount economy" in Qantas terminology) is down by about 30%.
SC's earnt on partner flights to/from Australia (Cathay, LAN etc) appear to be down by about half.
Mar 27, 2014, 2:58 am
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Sorry this makes sense. Getting JASA's (or ASA's) at the classic award level was a loophole people were exploiting. I'm glad QF has gotten rid of this. Sorry to those that were doing it, but of all the changes announced, this - to me - is the "fairest"
And I know this view will be unpopular.
And I know this view will be unpopular.
Mar 27, 2014, 3:19 am
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Sorry this makes sense. Getting JASA's (or ASA's) at the classic award level was a loophole people were exploiting. I'm glad QF has gotten rid of this. Sorry to those that were doing it, but of all the changes announced, this - to me - is the "fairest"
And I know this view will be unpopular.
And I know this view will be unpopular.
Mar 27, 2014, 3:37 am
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Sorry this makes sense. Getting JASA's (or ASA's) at the classic award level was a loophole people were exploiting. I'm glad QF has gotten rid of this. Sorry to those that were doing it, but of all the changes announced, this - to me - is the "fairest"
And I know this view will be unpopular.
And I know this view will be unpopular.
Mar 27, 2014, 5:21 am
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More than what is a Jasa... what is it that the JASA is having the end of ( the apostrophe tells me there is something missing )
Qantas has had an anachronism that any seat awards have been able to be booked in an award booking class and then have earned miles and status credits as per a paid booking
The removal of this situation seems eminently sensible to me
Looking at the new earning table, Qantas has done something I thought would be almost impossible to try and get away with; it is making the scheme even worse value than it is now
)Qantas has had an anachronism that any seat awards have been able to be booked in an award booking class and then have earned miles and status credits as per a paid booking
The removal of this situation seems eminently sensible to me
Looking at the new earning table, Qantas has done something I thought would be almost impossible to try and get away with; it is making the scheme even worse value than it is now
Mar 27, 2014, 10:01 am
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[mod hat] Moved posts not related to JASA to the appropriate thread. So please stay on topic, the discussion about the earning changes can be found here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qanta...-airlines.html [/mod hat]
Mar 27, 2014, 2:43 pm
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Sorry this makes sense. Getting JASA's (or ASA's) at the classic award level was a loophole people were exploiting. I'm glad QF has gotten rid of this. Sorry to those that were doing it, but of all the changes announced, this - to me - is the "fairest"
And I know this view will be unpopular.
And I know this view will be unpopular.
the extra couple hundred dollars you paid are no different than a jetstar bundle... you paid to receive those credits and points.
no loophole there.
Mar 27, 2014, 3:32 pm
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I disagree. It is very different to purchasing a fare which is eligable for mileage accrual. I am surprised that these have lasted so long as it is
Mar 27, 2014, 3:37 pm
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jetstar = base fare +$$ to get points and SCs
qantas ASA = base fare +$$ to get points and SCs
Mar 27, 2014, 3:39 pm
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