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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 3:56 pm
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QF J Class Seating

Have a SYD-CPT-SYD coming up in J and on one sector the seat map is showing old F Class and upper/lower deck J class for selection(of course I grabbed 1A and 1K)

I was under the impression that F became J and J became Y+, or am I mistaken?

Does QF block old F class selection to non/low status pax as I note there are still seats in the F section available while a lot of J is also taken?

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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 5:49 pm
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If you have a 1B seat they are not First Class lie flats, they are Skybeds..

If there is a row 4 then it is Skybed Mk1.

If there is a row 5 then it is Skybed Mk2.

In either case, I'd prefer 3E/F for a couple.
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 2:21 am
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1B is a big clue that it is a new J config and not old F (that would be 1A/1K and not 1B). JNB-SYD requires 744ER due to altitude (at least most months), and all 6 of the 744ERs are converted to new J and no F
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 2:54 am
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Do you mean JNB? QF doesn't fly to Cape Town.

There are only 3 744s still in service with the old F seats, and they'll be reconfigured or withdrawn from service shortly. If one of those aircraft is planned for your flight, row 1 is 1A and 1K. Otherwise, row 1 has ABJK and is either Skybed 1 or Skybed 2 as detailed in Serfty's post.
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 3:31 am
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Indeed it is 1A and 1K way back and old J way over(4 rows)Sorry my bad but I did recognize the seat plan 1-2-1 in my original post as old F

So do higher tier pax get first grabs at old F and blocked out to lower status pax?

PS QF seat maps say still 6 744's with old F.
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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 4:53 am
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While Qantas does tend to block these seats, quite often with a substitution, many J PAX may not be aware, or simply prefer the upper deck.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 4:08 am
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Originally Posted by serfty
In either case, I'd prefer 3E/F for a couple.
Is there any difference with 3AB (Mk1's)?
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by Himeno

There are only 3 744s still in service with the old F seats, and they'll be reconfigured or withdrawn from service shortly.
by 'shortly' you mean in the next year or so? QF is still sellnig F to HKG on these well into next year.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 4:17 am
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Originally Posted by Cedar Jet
PS QF seat maps say still 6 744's with old F.
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They don't update the aircraft regs listed on those maps very often (or the maps themselves for that matter). All 6 ERs have the new config and the seat map plans on the QF site still show both ER plans.
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
by 'shortly' you mean in the next year or so? QF is still sellnig F to HKG on these well into next year.
My understanding of their plan is to reduce the 747 fleet over the next year to 9 aircraft which have the newer 3 class config with A380 style seating. Those 9 747s will be enough to cover JFK, SCL, DFW, JNB and BNE-LAX flights.

I would guess that by the time they have enough A330s to cover the current/planned 744 flights to Asia and FRA, they'll be down to the 9 aircraft they will keep until the rest of the A380s arrive.

With the 787s arriving to JQ from the middle of next year, thus A330s moving back to QF, a number of 747s will be heading to Victorville shortly afterwards.

It looks like by the end of next October, when FRA stops, there will only be the 9 58J/36W/270Y 747s remaining in service.
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Originally Posted by Himeno
My understanding of their plan is to reduce the 747 fleet over the next year to 9 aircraft which have the newer 3 class config with A380 style seating. Those 9 747s will be enough to cover JFK, SCL, DFW, JNB and BNE-LAX flights.

I would guess that by the time they have enough A330s to cover the current/planned 744 flights to Asia and FRA, they'll be down to the 9 aircraft they will keep until the rest of the A380s arrive.

With the 787s arriving to JQ from the middle of next year, thus A330s moving back to QF, a number of 747s will be heading to Victorville shortly afterwards.

It looks like by the end of next October, when FRA stops, there will only be the 9 58J/36W/270Y 747s remaining in service.
thanks.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by blutek
Is there any difference with 3AB (Mk1's)?
Simplest difference is that one does not need to climb over the other to access the aisle.
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