QFF Program Wishlist
#31




Join Date: May 2002
Location: Castrovalva
Programs: QF Plat+ LTG/ OW Emerald, VA Plat, NZ Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Whatsit. Taxation is theft.
Posts: 2,771
Precisely the reason for WP benefits on JQ - particularly extra checked baggage allowance.
#32
Join Date: May 2008
Location: SIN / SYD
Programs: QF WP/LTG
Posts: 499
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An easy example is the sought after CX intra asia J trips.
Even MELSYD in J class / JQ*Class or AA "K-Up fares".
A small number of these can accrue WP (Emerald) status with QF whereas in CX / FinnAir / Other Programs, your actual mileage flown and the fare class booked might see you lucky to earn Ruby (or worst case nothing at all
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An easy example is the sought after CX intra asia J trips.
Even MELSYD in J class / JQ*Class or AA "K-Up fares".
A small number of these can accrue WP (Emerald) status with QF whereas in CX / FinnAir / Other Programs, your actual mileage flown and the fare class booked might see you lucky to earn Ruby (or worst case nothing at all
)As for MEL/SYD in J - you need to do 30 such trips to retain Plat (and 35 to make plat). I don't consider that to be a "small number"
#33

Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 549
A side to this would be a scale of status credits more in line with distance travelled and fare cost than the current basic multiples. For example PER to ADL, SYD, MEL, BNE and return all attract 20 credits at discount Y despite journey times of between 3 and 5 hours. If PER-ADL for example is 20 credits, and ADL-BNE 15, then PER-BNE should be 30 or 35 in discount Y
I would prefer to earn 20 credits flying MEL-SYD-MEL and BNE-PER in Y that is for certain.
I would prefer to earn 20 credits flying MEL-SYD-MEL and BNE-PER in Y that is for certain.
I totally agree with this.
I did PER-SYD vv last year, maybe 7-9 times, on Red eDeals, and l was still only Silver. Cost ~$4000 and each return trip, say 10hours. The earning of SC's in Discount whY is TERRIBLE. Flying in J you'd hit SG comfortably and maybe even WP doing PER-ADL-SYD routing. It truly is a "Frequent Spender Program", not a "Frequent Flyer Program". But, what else can we do? There is no other "global alliance" to join in Australia (yet...
)OT, l thought that another OW carrier (can't think of it at the moment), had 2 Emerald levels? I'll have a search for it...
Not much difference though. But, JAL does have 2 Emerald tiers.
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/flyon/status.html
Maybe QF will do similar????
#34
Join Date: Aug 2001
Programs: AA Plat & LTG; QF LTG
Posts: 9,837
I would like to see a closer alignment in the premium cabin earn/burn ratios. Business class only earns 25% more points than economy and First class only earns 50% more than economy, but burn rates are typically 100% and 200% premium over economy.
#36


Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: 1A
Programs: Elite Diamond Purple Gold Silver Titanium for life
Posts: 1,882
It's the little things like this that go a long way... AA does it perfectly. Otherwise there's no benefit of spending cash with that airline given the limited overhead space these days. By NOT letting elites board at any time, QF are essentially rewarding low value customers.
#37


Join Date: May 2003
Location: Singapore
Programs: QF LTG, SQ EGTP, Bonvoy LTG
Posts: 4,968
I did PER-SYD vv last year, maybe 7-9 times, on Red eDeals, and l was still only Silver. Cost ~$4000 and each return trip, say 10hours. The earning of SC's in Discount whY is TERRIBLE. Flying in J you'd hit SG comfortably and maybe even WP doing PER-ADL-SYD routing.
#38
Original Member

Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
Posts: 19,593
The JL 2 Emerald tiers is more a case of having an "Emerald Light" (80K points for Emerald vs. 100K points in AA, etc.) with the 2nd tier at the real Emerald level. A response to their market conditions and financial status 
QF already has too many Emeralds, they need an Emerald Heavy with some decent benefits (though I am absolutely sure limo is not going to be one of them). QF has had an informal Emerald Heavy level in the past, one year I got a case of wine at Xmas from QF and this was strictly revenue based (not mileage -- bought lots of F fares that year from QF before I discovered AONEx and switched to CX).

QF already has too many Emeralds, they need an Emerald Heavy with some decent benefits (though I am absolutely sure limo is not going to be one of them). QF has had an informal Emerald Heavy level in the past, one year I got a case of wine at Xmas from QF and this was strictly revenue based (not mileage -- bought lots of F fares that year from QF before I discovered AONEx and switched to CX).
#39

Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 549
Aaah, I think you will find that QF stack up pretty well in this regard compared to a lot of programs. A lot of airlines actually exclude earning on the most heavily discounted fares, or heavily discount the earning (look at NZ, SQ, TG, CX), at least you still get full points earned, and some contribution to status (FWIW if you did get a 100% miles earn on all fares, you would need 6 1/2 returns to SYD-PER to get to silver if it was based in the standard for such programs of 25,000 miles = silver)
JAL was only an example of the way QF might be heading. They might have a heavy and light WP level? Then again, if you fly in J or F, you get most of the benefits anyway that you'd get by been a SG or WP. More luggage, lounge (sometimes arrival lounge too), express lanes sometimes all come with J or F Class.
Does QF offer limo service for F Class? I'm pretty sure that Emirates does for J Class in some Australian cities.
#40
Original Member

Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
Posts: 19,593
A QFF improvement that I would like to see would be to change the website to include a more rational list of airport codes for awards. Perhaps based on cities that QF actually flies to (either own metal or codeshare). What a radical idea, be able to select QF flights; maybe half of the current list are to cities with no QF service, even as a codeshare. How did QF get into such an absurd situation? Crack management, indeed.
#41
Moderator, Hilton Honors



Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: on a short leash
Programs: some
Posts: 71,445
There already is a hidden tier with extra benefits for high SC WPs. I'm not sure what the cut-off is (and it may not necessarily be fixed number of SCs either).
#42
Moderator, Hilton Honors



Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: on a short leash
Programs: some
Posts: 71,445
1. Lifetime Platinum Status - even at 21,000 or 28,000 LTSCs.
2. More WP benefits extended to JQ pax, particularly as QF have frequently dumped routes onto JQ leaving the consumer with no choice (eg: NTL-MEL). Separate to this, the best thing they could do to enhance JQ would be to open check-in MORE than 2 hours prior to departure.
2. More WP benefits extended to JQ pax, particularly as QF have frequently dumped routes onto JQ leaving the consumer with no choice (eg: NTL-MEL). Separate to this, the best thing they could do to enhance JQ would be to open check-in MORE than 2 hours prior to departure.
#2 would see me consider JQ for domestic & trans-Tasman instead of flat ruling it out (except when travelling on BFOD rules where JQ has a suitable fare & schedule).
#43
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 82
I'd be curious to learn more about this. It is certainly contrary to the information conveyed at the focus groups, apart from the odd bottle of Grange at Xmas.
#44




Join Date: May 2002
Location: Castrovalva
Programs: QF Plat+ LTG/ OW Emerald, VA Plat, NZ Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Whatsit. Taxation is theft.
Posts: 2,771
News to me - I racked up over 3,000 SCs one year, got some wine and a nice letter - that's about the extent of "hidden tier" benefits. Other than "CIP" on the boarding passes for international flights and connections to/ from international flights.
#45
Moderator: Asiana & Qantas Frequent Flyer




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: STR/SYD/SMF
Programs: QF LTG / P1 , LH LT SEN / HON, OZ LT Diamond +, Marriott LT PT, HH Diamond,
Posts: 15,152
The only thing I got during my 5000SC years was PG.


