DL - YUL-HNL - 1746 CAD / $1290 USD r/t - Domestic First
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Those are AC fares and require AC flights. The UA fares are much more flexible. For example, a CAD 639.00 base fare just fell outside of the AP window (fly by 27-Apr, 30-day AP) on YYZ-OGG, with no issues routing via ORD or DEN.
Even USD 2k round-trip from YYZ booking into D (current YYZ-HNL base) is a very fair price for that high of a booking code.
But my broader point is that Delta systemically prohibits flying scheduled Delta One service on reasonable fares, whereas UA has no such policy. Not to mention, UA actually flies to neighbor islands from its non-coastal hubs, something DL can barely claim.
Even USD 2k round-trip from YYZ booking into D (current YYZ-HNL base) is a very fair price for that high of a booking code.
But my broader point is that Delta systemically prohibits flying scheduled Delta One service on reasonable fares, whereas UA has no such policy. Not to mention, UA actually flies to neighbor islands from its non-coastal hubs, something DL can barely claim.
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They've been fixing it up a lot in recent years, but it wasn't that long ago when full fare was $2,xxx round-trip (ed. probably one-way, my memory is spotty).
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Yeah, I don't mean to imply you can fly UA widebodies for USD 1,200 at all times, but the UA fares to do that come and go from Canadian markets . And for what is the stage length of a mid-TATL flight, honestly all of these prices are a steal.
They've been fixing it up a lot in recent years, but it wasn't that long ago when full fare was $2,xxx round-trip.
They've been fixing it up a lot in recent years, but it wasn't that long ago when full fare was $2,xxx round-trip.
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I know this is the premium forum, but $535USD/$726CAD for the same flights in economy is a pretty spectacular deal in its own right.
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I used to fly the EWR-HNL non-stop twice a month back when it was CO.
Are the planes, seats, and service all the same? The seats have to be at least 20 years old...
Are the planes, seats, and service all the same? The seats have to be at least 20 years old...
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If you want old my cousin flew DEN-IAH last week on N777UA - the first 777 delivered to an airline in May 1995.
Anyone thinks Boeing doesn't make good planes will find an argument from me.
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Last time I flew it was the 2-1-2 config on ex-CO 767-400s. but it looks like they've been upgraded to Polaris. I think CO bought those circa 2020
If you want old my cousin flew DEN-IAH last week on N777UA - the first 777 delivered to an airline in May 1995.
Anyone thinks Boeing doesn't make good planes will find an argument from me.
If you want old my cousin flew DEN-IAH last week on N777UA - the first 777 delivered to an airline in May 1995.
Anyone thinks Boeing doesn't make good planes will find an argument from me.
And thanks for the answer - that might be worth the positioning from IND for me...
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Most deals are 2 stop on all narrow body with the occasional widebody on the SFO-HNL/OGG route.
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Can't speak for IND as a POS but from YUL the EWR are still more expensive. I can sometimes route through ORD where they operate the 787-10 for reasonable cost, but it often won't provide P fares on that dynamic ticket. Maybe it would from IND.
Most deals are 2 stop on all narrow body with the occasional widebody on the SFO-HNL/OGG route.
Most deals are 2 stop on all narrow body with the occasional widebody on the SFO-HNL/OGG route.
Also, IND-YUL adds a considerable amount to the cost of the ticket.
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I found some dates in January that could work on DL.
2 stop with 1/6 segments on lie flat. On the outbound 30 minutes at MSP and 67 minutes at SEA so a really good chance at a schedule change.
I usually fly on the *A family so can anyone tell me how flexible DL usually is on rerouting to a 1 stop with a long lie flat (eg JFK) in the case of a schedule change?
Thanks in advance.
2 stop with 1/6 segments on lie flat. On the outbound 30 minutes at MSP and 67 minutes at SEA so a really good chance at a schedule change.
I usually fly on the *A family so can anyone tell me how flexible DL usually is on rerouting to a 1 stop with a long lie flat (eg JFK) in the case of a schedule change?
Thanks in advance.