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Old Aug 18, 2023, 2:20 am
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Change Question
Originally Posted by Avnu
Nice find! I had some trouble replicating the exact routing and price for VCE-MAD-LAX-MAD, but while searching I did find VCE-LHR-PDX-LAX-DFW-MAD on a combination of BA, AS and AA for just EUR 1526: Google Flights
(BA doesn't seem to play along when booking but AA does)

Double open jaws also seem possible: this is LAX inbound and SFO outbound for EUR 1507
So under Change Conditions, AA says:

Venice - San Francisco

Change conditions
  • Prior to Departure of first flight
    • Changes: (See reissue conditions)
    • Reissue*: Allowed with restrictions
    • New travel dates must be prior to: Sunday, 18. August 2024
    • Maximum Reissue penalty fee for entire ticket: 200.00 EUR
  • No-show for first flight
    • Changes: (See reissue conditions)
    • Reissue*: Not allowed
  • After departure of first flight
    • Changes: (See reissue conditions)
    • Reissue*: Allowed with restrictions
    • New travel dates must be prior to: Tuesday, 24. June 2025
    • Maximum Reissue penalty fee for entire ticket: 200.00 EUR
  • No-show for subsequent flight(s)
    • Changes: (See reissue conditions)
    • Reissue*: Not allowed
    • New travel dates and change request must be prior to: Tuesday, 24. June 2025
    • Maximum Reissue penalty fee for entire ticket: 200.00 EUR

San Francisco - Barcelona

Change conditions
  • Prior to Departure of first flight
    • Changes: (See reissue conditions)
    • Reissue*: Allowed with restrictions
    • Penalty fee for ticket reissue between: 200.00 EUR / 200.00 EUR (at today exchange rates 200.00 EUR / 200.00 EUR)
    • New travel dates must be prior to: Sunday, 18. August 2024
    • Maximum Reissue penalty fee for entire ticket: 200.00 EUR
  • No-show for first flight
    • Changes: (See reissue conditions)
    • Reissue*: Not allowed
  • After departure of first flight
    • Changes: (See reissue conditions)
    • Reissue*: Allowed with restrictions
    • Penalty fee for ticket reissue between: 200.00 EUR / 200.00 EUR (at today exchange rates 200.00 EUR / 200.00 EUR)
    • New travel dates must be prior to: Tuesday, 24. June 2025
    • Maximum Reissue penalty fee for entire ticket: 200.00 EUR
  • No-show for subsequent flight(s)
    • Changes: (See reissue conditions)
    • Reissue*: Allowed with restrictions
    • Penalty fee for ticket reissue between: 200.00 EUR / 200.00 EUR (at today exchange rates 200.00 EUR / 200.00 EUR)
    • New travel dates and change request must be prior to: Tuesday, 24. June 2025
    • Maximum Reissue penalty fee for entire ticket: 200.00 EUR
Does "Prior to departure of first flight" apply separately to the outbound and the inbound, and do they literally mean "flight" i.e. segment, or the entire outbound journey?

In other words, after flying VCE - LHR - SFO (itinerary below) on June 24/25, can one then change the return leg (for any date up to 24 June 2025)?
Or can one fly just VCE LHR then change the rest of the trip?

Itinerary

Venice - San Francisco
Monday 24 June 2024


20:35 Venice
Marco Polo (VCE)

21:45 London
Heathrow (LHR)
Business
Stop
13h25m
Heathrow (LHR)
11:10 +1 day London
Heathrow (LHR)

14:15 San Francisco
San Francisco International (SFO)
Business
Show flight details

San Francisco - Barcelona
Wednesday 10 July 2024


16:25 San Francisco
San Francisco International (SFO)

10:50 +1 day London
Heathrow (LHR)
Business
Stop
01h50m
Heathrow (LHR)
12:40 London
Heathrow (LHR)

15:45 Barcelona
Barcelona-El Prat Airport (BCN)
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 3:12 am
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Ty, Booked MLN to SFO, SFO TO BCN for $1500.00/person. Now looking for a ticket from SFO to Milan,BCN,MUC,IST,etc
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 5:36 am
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Great deal!

I managed BUD-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX returning LAX-JFK-HEL-AGP for a trip to Vegas next June. 820TP for £1,284
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by rj123456
Does "Prior to departure of first flight" apply separately to the outbound and the inbound, and do they literally mean "flight" i.e. segment, or the entire outbound journey?

In other words, after flying VCE - LHR - SFO (itinerary below) on June 24/25, can one then change the return leg (for any date up to 24 June 2025)?
Or can one fly just VCE LHR then change the rest of the trip?
It refers to just the first segment, but if you’re not stopping over in LHR then for all intents and purposes you probably won’t make the change until after you get to SFO. And assuming the fare has a 12-month maximum stay, then yes you can change the return flights to go back up to a year later (ie, June 2025).
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by honzeek_cz
Seems like ST is matching at least out of BCN
Any example ?
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 4:03 pm
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Well the new revenue based sharing between BA, IB, and AA sure throws a monkey wrench in awarding partner miles to AA for Ex Plat. Seems like it will start mid October 2023
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 4:12 pm
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by edb55
Well the new revenue based sharing between BA, IB, and AA sure throws a monkey wrench in awarding partner miles to AA for Ex Plat. Seems like it will start mid October 2023
I hadn't seen it before, but now I see it. Wow. I purchased a bunch of BA flights recently that are no longer as valuable as they were. Ouch.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...sh-airways.jsp
Last edited by gary_nj; Aug 18, 2023 at 4:39 pm Reason: found info
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by edb55
Well the new revenue based sharing between BA, IB, and AA sure throws a monkey wrench in awarding partner miles to AA for Ex Plat. Seems like it will start mid October 2023
Yup real shame. Will cut the earning potential of these fares quite a bit.

I guess the way to go in the future will be AY if available.
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingFrZ

I guess the way to go in the future will be AY if available.
Finnair announced their own move to revenue-based Avios a couple of days ago.
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by gary_nj
Finnair announced their own move to revenue-based Avios a couple of days ago.
Yeah, AY will be the refuge for a little bit, but I expect AA will also go revenue-based on their metal once they implement their new program.
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Anegada
Yeah, AY will be the refuge for a little bit, but I expect AA will also go revenue-based on their metal once they implement their new program.
what are you talking about…
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by nk15
what are you talking about…
https://loyaltylobby.com/2023/08/16/...revenue-based/
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by gary_nj
I hadn't seen it before, but now I see it. Wow. I purchased a bunch of BA flights recently that are no longer as valuable as they were. Ouch.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...sh-airways.jsp
Well, you for sure aren't the lone ranger here. I have three RT LIN-HEL-LHR-LAX booked, first half is good and last half sucks
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by ianfly
Great deal!

I managed BUD-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX returning LAX-JFK-HEL-AGP for a trip to Vegas next June. 820TP for £1,284
are you able to share your Google flights link?
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