Kacee

I just booked one of these, and it shows F and J for the domestic segments (PVG-PEK), which accrue even higher.

I don't have much desire to fly MU or mileage run to PEK, but 21k+ MQM will requalify me for DL Plat. For $1254.

Is there any way to reserve seats and add my SkyMiles number on the MU website? Or do I have to call?

ETA: So I can call up my reservation on the MU website using the "Select Seats" link, but not the "Manage Booking" link. Seats selected. Looks like I'll have to wait to check-in to add SkyMiles number.

George84

clearedforlanding

Am I reading the fare rules correctly? Looks like no change fees on the MU fare?

Very tempted to lock a couple of these in if so.

btonkid12345

Where are you even seeing the fare rules? I can't pull these up on matrix and the purchases via kayak don't load detailed fare rules...thanks

Also, does anybody know if delta is able to ticket a China eastern fare at this price? I'm afraid I don't understand the China eastern fare distribution rules but would prefer to get it on Delta ticket stock, if at all possible

Colin

Departing LAX on 08/28/18 for PEK
Fare basis code ILE036RN
Flying MU
Routing via Pacific V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 ILE036RN I‡R 980.00 T30JN - 3/ 6M PA01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-BJS CXR-MU TVL-28AUG18 RULE-NJR2 IPRP/3
FARE BASIS-ILE036RN SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BRR RT-BUSINESS SELL-UP RT REF
USD 980.00 0211 E21JUN18 D-INFINITY FC-ILE036RN FN-5E
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 20JUN18/0318 EXPIRES INFINITY

PUBLISHED RTG LAX-BJS/MU211 /TAR-TPRG EF-21JUN18 DIS-INDEF

/VIA THE PACIFIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. LAX-MU-SHA/NKG/CTU-MU/KN/FM-BJS

Departing LAX on 08/28/18 for PEK
Fare basis code ILE036RN
Flying MU
Routing via PacificBooking Class

>$LB12
012 LAXBJS 28AUG18 MU USD 980.00 ILE036RN STAY-03/6M BK-I
FARE CLS EXPLANATION BOOK CODES
-------- ---------------------- ----------
ILE036RN BASIC SEASON BUSINESS SELL-UP RT REF I
ILE036RN FARES
ILE036RN APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS
IF VIA MU ALL BUSINESS BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA
3
A/X REQUIRED WITHIN CHINA TRN SERVICE
IF VIA MU ALL BUSINESS BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA
3
A/X REQUIRED WITHIN CHINA BUS SERVICE
IF VIA MU ALL BUSINESS BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA
3
B PERMITTED WITHIN CHINA
IF VIA MU ALL BUSINESS BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA
3
F/J PERMITTED WITHIN CHINA
IF VIA MU ALL BUSINESS BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA
3
J PERMITTED BETWEEN JAPAN AND KOREA, REPUBLIC
OF-CHINA
IF VIA MU ALL BUSINESS BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA
J PERMITTED BETWEEN SOUTHEAST ASIA-CHINA
J PERMITTED BETWEEN SOUTH ASIAN
SUBCONTINENT-CHINA

stephem

Colin

Departing LAX on 08/28/18 for PEK
Fare basis code ILE036RN
Flying MU
Routing via Pacific Rule CategoryRule TextRULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
MU FARES - BUSINESS CLASS
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
JUDGEMENT.ELIGIBILITY NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - DOES NOT APPLY.DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.SEASONALITY PERMITTED 28AUG18 THROUGH 03OCT18 ON THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.FLIGHT APPLICATION IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL VIA NKG/HGH
BUT NOT ON TRAIN.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL VIA NKG/HGH
BUT NOT ON BUS.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY MU FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL
AA FLIGHTS 400 THROUGH 899
AA FLIGHTS 1700 THROUGH 2199
AA FLIGHTS 2650 THROUGH 2749
AA FLIGHTS 3725 THROUGH 4219
AA FLIGHTS 4370 THROUGH 5319
AA FLIGHTS 5370 THROUGH 5599
AA FLIGHTS 5980 THROUGH 8313
AA FLIGHTS 8371 THROUGH 9999
US FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 399
US FLIGHTS 900 THROUGH 1699
US FLIGHTS 2200 THROUGH 2649
US FLIGHTS 2750 THROUGH 3699
US FLIGHTS 4220 THROUGH 4418
US FLIGHTS 5320 THROUGH 5434
US FLIGHTS 6275 THROUGH 6549
US FLIGHTS 6735 THROUGH 9999
JJ FLIGHTS 8100 THROUGH 8599
PZ FLIGHTS 602 THROUGH 605
UA FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5175
UA FLIGHTS 6549 THROUGH 9999.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN NYC AND
ATL/MSP
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AS FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 999
AS FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2999
AS FLIGHTS 3275 THROUGH 3299
AS FLIGHTS 3450 THROUGH 3499
UA FLIGHTS 0001 THROUGH 4999
UA FLIGHTS 5176 THROUGH 6548
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OO
ANY WS FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS
ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL
ANY VX FLIGHT OPERATED BY VX
ANY MU FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY US FLIGHT
ANY JJ FLIGHT
ANY PZ FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY MU FLIGHT OPERATED BY MU.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN CHINA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY MU FLIGHT OPERATED BY MU
ANY MU FLIGHT OPERATED BY FM
ANY FM FLIGHT OPERATED BY FM
ANY FM FLIGHT OPERATED BY MU
ANY MU FLIGHT OPERATED BY KN
ANY FM FLIGHT OPERATED BY KN.
AND

NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN
CHINA
BOOKING MU FLIGHTS
MU6001 THROUGH MU6199 OR
MU6500 THROUGH MU6599 OR
MU6700 THROUGH MU6799 OR
MU6001G THROUGH 6199G OR
MU6500G THROUGH MU6599G OR
MU6700G THROUGH MU6799G OR
MU6001B THROUGH MU6199B OR
MU6500B THROUGH MU6599B OR
MU6700B THROUGH MU6799B
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE BY TRAIN OR BY BUS.
RELATED RULES AND OPERATIONS OF RAILWAY TICKETS
OR BUS TICKETS CAN BE CONSULTED ON ????_?????_??????_??????_????????
OR WITH CALLCENTER 95530.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.MINIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
NO LATER THAN 6 MONTHS AFTER ON THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.STOPOVERS IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN CHINA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
MU FLIGHTS 6001 THROUGH 6199
MU FLIGHTS 6500 THROUGH 6599
MU FLIGHTS 6700 THROUGH 6799.
UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING
UNIT.
6 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 3 IN EACH
DIRECTION AT CNY 1000 EACH.TRANSFERS UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.COMBINATIONS
END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL
MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE
OF THE INTERNATIONAL OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS
THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
THERE IS NO MILEAGE RESTRICTION ON AN OPEN SEGMENT
WITHIN ONE COUNTRY.
PROVIDED -
WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
-BETWEEN EUROPE AND MIDDLE EAST/BETWEEN EUROPE AND
AFRICA/BETWEEN CHINESE TAIPEI AND JAPAN /
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF KOREA / REPUBLIC OF KOREA
OR BETWEEN HONG KONG SAR CHINA AND SOUTHWEST
PACIFIC
-WITHIN AREA 1/WITHIN EUROPE/WITHIN JAPAN /
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF KOREA / REPUBLIC OF KOREA
OR WITHIN SOUTHWEST PACIFIC
-WITHIN ANY ONE COUNTRY
-THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST NOT BE BETWEEN AREA 1 AND
AREA 2/BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 OR BETWEEN AREA 3
AND AREA 1
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN HKG AND CAN/BETWEEN HKG AND SZX/BETWEEN
HKG AND ZUH/BETWEEN HKG AND ZHA/BETWEEN MFM AND
CAN/BETWEEN MFM AND SZX/BETWEEN MFM AND ZUH OR
BETWEEN MFM AND ZHA
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN POINTS IN ANY TWO OF THE FOLLOWING
LOCALES-
SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT/HONG KONG SAR CHINA/
INDONESIA/CAMBODIA/LAOS/MYANMAR/MACAU SAR CHINA/
NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS/MALAYSIA/PHILIPPINES/
SINGAPORE/THAILAND/CHINESE TAIPEI/VIET NAM OR
BETWEEN KYRGYZSTAN/KAZAKHSTAN/TAJIKISTAN/
TURKMENISTAN/UZBEKISTAN/BRUNEI DARUSSALAM/MONGOLIA/
TIMOR LESTE
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN
ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN
ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF.BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.SURCHARGES NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.SALES RESTRICTIONS FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 30JUN18.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF MU.PENALTIES CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT
NO CHARGE.

CANCELLATIONS

BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 500.00 FOR REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT
NO CHARGE.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY
MEMBER. DEATH CERTIFICATE REQUIRED.

AFTER DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 500.00 FOR REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT
NO CHARGE.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY
MEMBER. DEATH CERTIFICATE REQUIRED.


NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
REROUTINGS -
REROUTING PERMITTED.
THE NEW ITINERARY WILL BE REPRICED.
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE
THE DIFFERENCE AND THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE BOTH
COLLECTED.
WHEN THE NEW ITINERRAY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED AND NO REFUND WILL
BE MADE.HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- Q/NON-END. - AND - PENALTY APPLY. - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT PSGR 18
OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT PSGR
18 OR OLDER.TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.AGENT DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS NO PROVISIONS APPLY.FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE.GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF MU INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
SEAT AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. MU FARES ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF MU INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
SEAT AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. MU FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
.VOLUNTARY REFUNDS CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE

Colin

Summary is outbound travel 28AUG18 THROUGH 03OCT18 and return within 6 months
$500 cancel fee for refund
stopover allowed, but no HIP waiver
No change fee, though repricing if changes made prior to using segment1
booking class I

Kacee

That is my read, but it's ambiguous. I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to charge the cancel fee ($500) for a change.

The fact that the fare is refundable (even with a $500 penalty) is pretty amazing.

ETA:

The fare rules published on EF (fare basis ILE036RN) are much clearer. It's no fee to change, $500 to refund:

CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT
NO CHARGE.

CANCELLATIONS

BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 500.00 FOR REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT
NO CHARGE.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY
MEMBER. DEATH CERTIFICATE REQUIRED.

AFTER DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 500.00 FOR REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT
NO CHARGE.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY
MEMBER. DEATH CERTIFICATE REQUIRED.


NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
REROUTINGS -
REROUTING PERMITTED.
THE NEW ITINERARY WILL BE REPRICED.
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE
THE DIFFERENCE AND THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE BOTH
COLLECTED.
WHEN THE NEW ITINERRAY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED AND NO REFUND WILL
BE MADE.

But note this fare is only valid to Aug. 14 to Oct. 3

Quinlanty

I am in for 2! Great MQD earning for DL elites! Anyone else have trouble getting seats assigned? Errors out for me. Also, is F on domestic china flights equivalent to domestic F in USA? and would I be able to access the F lounge in PVG? Also, has anyone been able to get lie flat on both domestic segments? Could only get it for the return. THANKS!!

moondog

-most PVG-PEK flights are two class
-if you booked a 330, biz is certainly better than most f products within the US
-PVG T1 domestic is unpleasant enough to justify going back inside as late as possible
-I don't think there is a separate F lounge, but if there was, I wouldn't bother unless a delay hit after I was past security

Quinlanty

Thanks!!

deltame

Thanks to this thread, I priced out a trip on Kayak. I would appreciate some pointers wrt which site to actually book from. For my intended travel dates, justfly.com says $1295, while Expedia or Orbitz wants $14xx. In the past, I typically book directly from airlines, especially for international trips. I have not booked from justfly.com so I was wondering about its reputation. Thanks.

Bowgie

Here is the FT thread on Justfly.com

Any experience with justfly.com?

Short answer is "pay more money on Orbitz or Expedia."

laxrunner18