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Old Aug 8, 2017, 12:18 am
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AF Business GVA/ZRH to US cities EUR 1500

Dear all,


AF is discounting its business class fares from Switzerland to US cities at approx. EUR 1500. To my knowledge, AF has not (yet) advertised it.


Cheers

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Old Aug 8, 2017, 12:33 am
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I can't see AF, but I can see DL fares.

e.g.

ZRH-JFK for 1600CHF/1400EUR/1670USD, pretty much entire schedule.

Do you have examples for destinations/dates for AF?
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 12:38 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
Do you have examples for destinations/dates for AF?
Mustn't have looked too hard!

https://goo.gl/flights/mzHq
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 12:54 am
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... KLM also pops up in my searches. Probably a SkyTeam sale.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 12:56 am
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... KLM also pops up in my searches. Probably a SkyTeam sale.
There is only "Skyteam" across the TATL. They have an immunised metal-neutral joint venture.
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Wow, awesome, thank you. Now let's hope OW matches!

Fare rules:


Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Departing ZRH on 11/03/17 for JFK
Fare basis code Z1P6EU
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Routing via North Atlantic

Rule Category                           Rule Text

RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS      NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
                                           VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                           AIR FRANCE STANDARD RULE - PROMOTION -
                                           RESTRICTED BUSINESS CLASS FARES
                                           APPLICATION
                                            AREA
                                             THESE FARES APPLY 
                                              BETWEEN UNITED STATES/CANADA/MEXICO AND AREA 1/
                                              AREA 2/AREA 3.
                                            CLASS OF SERVICE
                                             THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
                                            TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
                                             FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
                                              ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
                                            CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
                                             THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
                                              CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
                                              THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
                                              AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
                                              WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
                                              FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
                                              JUDGEMENT.
                                            OTHER CONDITIONS
                                             THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE
                                             IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
                                             SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET.
                                             ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN
                                             ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.
                                             FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS-
                                             THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF
                                              THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT
                                             BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE
                                             SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC
                                             TICKET / .
                                        
ELIGIBILITY                                NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
                                        
DAY/TIME                                   NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                        
SEASONALITY                                NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                        
FLIGHT APPLICATION                         IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN EUROPE
                                           AND AREA 2
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AP
                                                   ANY OK FLIGHT OPERATED BY QS.
                                           AND
                                           THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY EI FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI.
                                           AND
                                           THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY DL FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AF FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AZ
                                                   ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL
                                                   ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AP
                                                   ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY CT
                                                   ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY VE
                                                   ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY XM
                                                   ANY KL FLIGHT
                                                   ANY HA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AS FLIGHT
                                                   ANY A5 FLIGHT OPERATED BY YS
                                                   ANY WS FLIGHT.
                                        
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING             CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
                                           WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 101 DAYS BEFORE
                                           DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 14 DAYS
                                           AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 94 DAYS BEFORE
                                           DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
                                           OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL
                                                SECTORS.
                                                WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 31 DAYS BEFORE
                                                DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7
                                                DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 28
                                                DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
                                           OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL
                                                SECTORS.
                                                WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 11 DAYS BEFORE
                                                DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3
                                                DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 10
                                                DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
                                           OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL
                                                SECTORS.
                                                TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER
                                                RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  --------------------------------------------------
                                                  - FAREQUOTE GENERATES A LAST TICKETING DATE WHICH-
                                                  - MAY DIFFER FROM THE DATE MENTIONED IN THE PNR. -
                                                  - THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS.            -
                                                  --------------------------------------------------
                                        
MINIMUM STAY                               TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
                                           NO EARLIER THAN 6 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST
                                           INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
                                           OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST
                                                COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER
                                                DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
                                        
MAXIMUM STAY                               TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
                                           NO LATER THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER ON THE FIRST
                                           INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
                                        
STOPOVERS                                  UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING
                                           UNIT.
                                        
TRANSFERS                                  2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                BETWEEN DL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN UNITED STATES
                                                IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                BETWEEN AF AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN UNITED STATES
                                                IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                BETWEEN KL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN UNITED STATES
                                                IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                BETWEEN AZ AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN UNITED STATES
                                                IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                BETWEEN AS AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN UNITED STATES
                                                IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                BETWEEN WS AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN CANADA IN EACH
                                                DIRECTION.
                                           AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                      BETWEEN DL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN EUROPE IN EACH
                                                      DIRECTION
                                                      BETWEEN AF AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN EUROPE IN EACH
                                                      DIRECTION
                                                      BETWEEN KL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN EUROPE IN EACH
                                                      DIRECTION
                                                      BETWEEN AZ AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN EUROPE IN EACH
                                                      DIRECTION.
                                           AND - 1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                   ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING -
                                                    1 INTERLINE INCLUDING AF
                                                      IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION.
                                                 FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
                                                 EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
                                                 COMPONENT.
                                        
COMBINATIONS                                
                                            END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
                                           OPEN JAWS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS WHICH CONSISTS OF NO MORE
                                              THAN 2 INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS AND THE OPEN
                                              SEGMENT AT ORIGIN MUST BE IN ONE COUNTRY. THE OPEN
                                              SEGMENT AT DESTINATION HAS NO RESTRICTIONS
                                              A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
                                              PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
                                              LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
                                              COMPONENT.
                                             -TO FORM DOUBLE OPEN JAWS WHICH CONSISTS OF NO MORE
                                              THAN 2 INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS AND THE OPEN
                                              SEGMENT AT ORIGIN MUST BE IN ONE COUNTRY. THE OPEN
                                              SEGMENT AT DESTINATION HAS NO RESTRICTIONS
                                              A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
                                              PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE INTERNATIONAL OPEN SEGMENT
                                              MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN
                                              FARE COMPONENT. THERE IS NO MILEAGE RESTRICTION ON
                                              AN OPEN SEGMENT WITHIN ONE COUNTRY.
                                             OPEN JAWS NOTE -
                                               FOR NORMAL FARES THE MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT
                                               MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN THE MILEAGE OF THE
                                               OUTBOUND SEGMENT
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
                                               -BETWEEN AREA 1 AND FRENCH POLYNESIA
                                               -WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN FRENCH POLYNESIA
                                               -WITHIN ANY ONE COUNTRY IN EUROPE COMBINATIONS ARE
                                                WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER KL/AF/DL/AZ BETWEEN
                                                EUROPE AND AREA 1
                                                OR FOR CARRIER KL/AF/DL/AZ BETWEEN EUROPE AND
                                                FRENCH POLYNESIA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
                                                APFRRPV - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA ATL/PAC
                                                ATDLR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                                FBRA12  - BETWEEN AREA 1/2 EXCEPT USA/CA
                                                FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1/2 EXCEPT USA/CA
                                                FBRA23P - BETWEEN AREA 2/3
                                                FBRIN   - TO/FROM NO.AMERICA EXCLUDE US TERR.
                                                FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
                                                IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                                IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                                IPRAP   - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA ATL/PAC
                                                IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
                                                VIA ATL
                                                SAR2RPV - BETWEEN WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                                                ATL
                                                TAPVCR  - BETWEEN CAN/USA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                                TAPVR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA
                                                2.
                                           ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
                                             -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
                                              A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
                                              PERMITTED.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER KL/AF/
                                               DL/AZ BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1
                                               OR FOR CARRIER KL/AF/DL/AZ BETWEEN EUROPE AND
                                               FRENCH POLYNESIA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
                                               APFRRPV - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA ATL/PAC
                                               ATDLR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                               FBRA12  - BETWEEN AREA 1/2 EXCEPT USA/CA
                                               FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1/2 EXCEPT USA/CA
                                               FBRA23P - BETWEEN AREA 2/3
                                               FBRIN   - TO/FROM NO.AMERICA EXCLUDE US TERR.
                                               FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
                                               IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                               IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               IPRAP   - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA ATL/PAC
                                               IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
                                               VIA ATL
                                               SAR2RPV - BETWEEN WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                                               ATL
                                               TAPVCR  - BETWEEN CAN/USA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               TAPVR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
                                        
BLACKOUT DATES                             NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
                                        
SURCHARGES                                 THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                           WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD IN IRAN.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  SALES MAY BE PERMITTED WORLDWIDE
                                                  BUT TICKETS SOLD IN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN WILL
                                                  QUOTE THE Q-SURCHARGE INSTEAD OF YQ FOR AF.
                                             FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 216.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
                                             ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
                                        
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL                         ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
                                        
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS                        NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                        
SALES RESTRICTIONS                         FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AF OR AF.
                                           TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AF AND
                                           MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS/CXR DEPT AFCCS/010A/AFCCS/
                                           0105.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  POS VENEZUELA ... SPECIAL SALES RESTRICTION
                                           OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AF OR AF.
                                                TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AF
                                                AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS/CXR DEPT AFLOS/08AA.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  //////POS VENEZUELA ... SPECIAL SALES RESTRICTION
                                                  ----------------------------------------------
                                                  THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE
                                                  IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
                                                  SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET.
                                                  ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN
                                                  ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.THE TICKET A FARE READJUSMENT
                                                  --FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS--
                                                  THIS FARE IS ONLY VALID WHEN FLIGHT COUPONS ARE
                                                  USED IN THE SAME ORDER AS SHOWN ON THE TICKET
                                                  - IF ANY OF THE COUPONS IS NOT USED IN THE
                                                  SEQUENCE SHOWN ON THE TICKET A FARE READJUSMENT
                                                  WILL BE APPLIED AND THE FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED
                                                  BASED ON THE NEW JOURNEY REQUESTED
                                                  ---------------------------------------------
                                                  ONLY AF/KL AIRPORT TICKET OFFICES ARE ALLOWED TO
                                                  PROCESS FARE RECALCULATION AND REISSUE AS
                                                  DESCRIBED IN GGAIRAF OUT OF SEQUENCE
                                                  ----------------------------------------------
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR KL
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AM
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AR
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AT
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AZ
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR A9
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR CM
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR CZ
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR DL
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR FB
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR JU
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR KE
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR KQ
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR LG
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR ME
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR MF
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR MK
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR MU
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR OK
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR PS
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR PX
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR QF
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR QV
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR SB
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR SV
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR TU
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR UX
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR WF
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR 9W
                                                AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA.
                                        
PENALTIES                                  CHANGES
                                           
                                             BEFORE DEPARTURE
                                               CHARGE EUR 300.00.
                                               CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / DATE / FLIGHT MODIFICATION
                                                  WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
                                                  THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
                                                  WILL APPLY
                                                                        ////
                                                            // BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE //
                                                                        ////
                                                  NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUANCE MUST BE MADE AT THE
                                                  SAME TIME PRIOR TO DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY
                                                  SCHEDULED FLIGHT. IF CHANGE DOES NOT OCCUR ON THE
                                                  FIRST FARE COMPONENT OF THE JOURNEY NEW FARE
                                                  WILL BE RECALCULATED USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
                                                  PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE AND UNDER FOLLOWING
                                                  CONDITIONS
                                                   - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE
                                                     LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
                                                     A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                         ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE
                                                     B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                         NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
                                                   - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE
                                                     MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
                                                     A / MUST COMPY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                         NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
                                                                -----------------------
                                                  NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUANCE MUST BE MADE AT THE
                                                  SAME TIME PRIOR TO DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY
                                                  SCHEDULED FLIGHT. WHEN CHANGE OCCURS ON THE FIRST
                                                  FARE COMPONENT OF THE JOURNEY ONLY OR ON THE
                                                  FIRST FARE COMPONENT AND OTHER FARE COMPONENT OF
                                                  THE JOURNEY NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING
                                                  FARES IN EFFECT ON DATE OF REISSUE AND UNDER
                                                  FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
                                                   - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE
                                                     LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
                                                     A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                         ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE
                                                     B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                         NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
                                                   - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE
                                                     MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
                                                     A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                         NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
                                           
                                           CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                         //  BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE  //
                                                                  //  NO SHOW  //
                                                  IN THE EVENT OF NO SHOW - WHEN CHANGES ARE
                                                  REQUESTED AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY
                                                  SCHEDULED FLIGHT -  CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED AND
                                                  CANCELLATION RULES SHALL APPLY
                                           
                                           AFTER DEPARTURE
                                               CHARGE EUR 300.00.
                                               CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                                     /////
                                                            // AFTER OUTBOUND DEPARTURE //
                                                                        ////
                                                  NEW RESERVATION / REISSUANCE AND PAYMENT
                                                  OF THE PENALTY MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
                                                                     -------------------------------
                                                    NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING
                                                  FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE
                                                  AND UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
                                                   - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE
                                                     LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
                                                     A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                         ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE
                                                     B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                         NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
                                                   - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE
                                                     MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
                                                  UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
                                                  A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW
                                                      FARE BEING APPLIED
                                           
                                           CANCELLATIONS
                                           
                                             BEFORE DEPARTURE
                                               CHARGE EUR 400.00 FOR CANCEL.
                                               CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                                     /////
                                                         // BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE //
                                                                     /////
                                                  THE WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET IS REFUNDABLE UPON
                                                  PAYMENT OF THE PENALTY AMOUNT CONTAINED IN
                                                  THIS RULE
                                           
                                           TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                           // BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPATURE //
                                                                  // NO SHOW //
                                                  TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE WHEN PASSENGER CANCELS
                                                  AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                           
                                           AFTER DEPARTURE
                                               TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                                      ////
                                                           // AFTER OUTBOUND DEPARTURE //
                                                                      ////
                                                  TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE WHEN PASSENGER CANCELS
                                                  AFTER OUTBOUND DEPARTURE MEANING THAT NO REFUNDS
                                                  ARE ALLOWED ONCE THE FIRST COUPON OF THE PRICING
                                                  UNIT IS USED.
                                           
                                           
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  ANY TIME
                                                  CANCELLATIONS RULES APPLY BY FARE COMPONENT
                                                  WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE TICKET WITH A
                                                  NON REFUNDABLE TICKET PROVISIONS WILL APPLY
                                                  AS FOLLOWS
                                                     - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
                                                       COMPONENT WILL BE REFUNDED UPON PAYMENT
                                                       OF THE PENALTY AMOUNT IF APPLICABLE
                                                     - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON REFUNDABLE
                                                       FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
                                        
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS                     THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
                                           CONNECTIONS.
                                           AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
                                                 FOR STOPOVERS.
                                        
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS                        THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
                                           - NON ENDO/ - AND - FARE RSTR COULD APPLY - IN THE
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX.
                                        
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS                         CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE
                                             100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                 TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH0.
                                             MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                               COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
                                           OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. ID REQUIRED -
                                                  CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH0.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
                                           OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
                                                  CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  1 ADULT PASSENGER AGED AT LEAST 18 YEARS
                                                  MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY A MAXIMUM OF 1 INFANTS
                                                  --------------------------------------------
                                                  FRENCH REGULATIONS FORBID 2 INFANTS - LESS THAN
                                                  2 YEARS OLD - FROM BEING ACCOMPANIED BY JUST ONE
                                                  ADULT PASSENGER .
                                                  THE INFANT MUST BE HELD ON THE LAP OF THE
                                                  PASSENGER DURING TAXI-TAKE OFF-LANDING
                                                  AND TURBULENCES
                                                  --------------------------------------------------
                                                  THE AGE LIMITS REFERRED TO IN THIS RULE SHALL BE
                                                  THOSE IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF COMMENCEMENT
                                                  OF TRAVEL.
                                                  EXCEPTION - INFANTS WHO REACH THEIR 2ND
                                                  BIRTHDAY DURING THEIR TRAVEL WILL BE REQUIRED
                                                  TO OCCUPY A SEAT ON THE OUTBOUND AND INBOUND
                                                  FLIGHT.
                                                  THE CHILD FARE NEEDS TO BE APPLIED FOR THE WHOLE J
                                                  OURNEY
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE
                                               ON DIRECT FLIGHTS.
                                             UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-14. ID REQUIRED -
                                               CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE PLUS EUR 80.00.
                                                   TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM0.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  SERVICE CHARGE FOR UNACCOMPANIED CHILD ON DIRECT
                                                  FLIGHTS
                                           OTHERWISE
                                             UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-14 - CHARGE 100
                                               PERCENT OF THE FARE PLUS EUR 100.00.
                                                   TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM0.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  SERVICE CHARGE FOR UNACCOMPANIED CHILD ON
                                                  INDIRECT FLIGHTS
                                        
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS                   NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
                                        
AGENT DISCOUNTS                            NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
                                        
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS                        NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
                                        
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS                   THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THROUGH FARE WITH A
                                           DIFFERENTIAL AND/OR TO CALCULATE DIFFERENTIAL.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  IN CASE OF CHANGE OF POINT OF DEPARTURE OR
                                                  PARTIAL USE OF THE TICKET BY THE PASSENGER FOR
                                                  THE ABOVE-MENTIONED CHANGE THE PASSENGER WILL BE
                                                  CHARGED A FIXED FARE COMPLEMENT OF 1500EUR ALL
                                                  TAXES INCLUDED.
                                                  THIS APPLIES ONLY ON DAY OF TRAVEL AT THE AIRPORT.
                                        
FARE BY RULE                               NOT APPLICABLE.
                                        
GROUPS                                     NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
TOURS                                      NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY                      NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
DEPOSITS                                   NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
VOLUNTARY CHANGES                          IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
                                           BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
                                             2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED
                                             3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             4. AF/KL Z- FARE FAMILY IS USED
                                             5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                             OR -
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
                                             2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED
                                             3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             4. AF/KL FARES ARE USED
                                             5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
                                             TKT
                                             6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                             OR -
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             2. AF/KL Z- FARE FAMILY IS USED
                                             3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                             OR -
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             2. AF/KL FARES ARE USED
                                             3. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
                                             TKT
                                             4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                           REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                           ENDORSEMENTS.
                                           OR -
                                           BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
                                             CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
                                             WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                           REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                           ENDORSEMENTS.
                                           OR -
                                           AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
                                             2. AF/KL Z- FARE FAMILY IS USED
                                             3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                             OR -
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
                                             2. AF/KL FARES ARE USED
                                             3. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
                                             TKT
                                             4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                           REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                           ENDORSEMENTS.
                                        .
                                        
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS                          NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
                                        
NEGOTIATED FARES                           NOT APPLICABLE.
                                        
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION                 NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
                                        .
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 1:16 am
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Google Flights only showed it once clicking specific dates, that makes sense. Couple other destinations & prices:

ZRH-YVR: 1900USD
ZRH-SEA: 2100USD

for a bit more distance and a bit more money.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 1:22 am
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ORD and MIA is nearly the same price as JFK and BOS.

Other destinations:

MCO, CLT, CVG, IND, STL, DTW, PHL, RDU, WAS, MCI, DFW, IAH, AUS, JAX, TPA, RSW ...

YUL, YYZ, YQB and YOW as well...

Last edited by florens; Aug 8, 2017 at 1:42 am
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 2:11 am
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Cheaper from FRA around €1300
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 8:09 am
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The link shows tickets around USD 6000...fare gone ?
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by voxx
The link shows tickets around USD 6000...fare gone ?
I still see KLM for 1800$ but DL seems gone.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 8:34 am
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It seems so. The low fares that I have mentioned on the routes that I was following also disappeared. That was a short sale...
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 9:18 am
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Some routes later in the year still appear <1400EUR on GF but price out to 3500EUR+ once you click on them. Bummer. Talk about a flash sale.

Edit: did I speak too soon? Seeing them price out correctly on Delta again

Edit 2: I think florens was correct, it's only KLM.

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Old Aug 8, 2017, 10:53 am
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ZRH-US's been cheaper at times this year, down to $1150 US or so.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 3:23 pm
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The fares still exist, but not for much longer.

Code:
    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1A  Z1P6EU         Z R  1064.00     ----      -/‡ ‡‡/ 3M AT01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                 AUTO PRICE-YES              
FROM-GVA TO-NYC    CXR-AF    TVL-08AUG17  RULE-NATL IPRA/1
FARE BASIS-Z1P6EU            SPECIAL FARE  DIS-E   VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BAR      RT-2ND LEVEL BUSINESS CLASS ADVANCE PURCHASE
CHF  1035.00   MPM  E08AUG17 D08AUG17   FC-Z1P6EU  FN-1G   
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 08AUG17/0217  EXPIRES 08AUG17/2359
I suspect that this is the soonest that ATPCO will allow a deletion to take effect.
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