Apr 30, 2016, 12:36 pm
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OCTOBER 2016 UPDATE
LAX-JFK TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHTS:
1. Same day turns possible on the E-jets and morning 738s.
2. Bonuses now based on fare paid.
3. As of OCTOBER 2016, best fares are now around $1000. Fare tends to rise a few hundred for 2 pax. Fares can also occasionally rise for no discernible reason, but the price spikes have thus far proven to be temporary. Fares have the trend to drop during the year. Keep checking for fares in the $700-$800 ranges for best possible pricing.
4. Airport hotels with shuttles - Crowne Plaza Panama Airport & Riande Aeropuerto. The CP is slightly closer; the Riande is slightly nicer. The CP shuttle leaves the hotel every :00 and :30 and runs 24 hours but they seem to leave a few minutes early as it had left when I went down at 4:00AM on the dot. Also, note UberX charges a US$14 surcharge on top of the ~US$2 fare. CP has poor sound isolation, I could hear my neighbors on both sides including talking, crying baby etc. Had to wear earplugs to sleep.
5. Lounges:
Please refer to this thread for more detailed and accurate information on lounge access in general: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1656378-help-desk-will-i-have-lounge-access-access-rules-2016-a.html
6. PTY Customs:
NOTE: LAX-JFK NO LONGER VALID FOR LOWEST FARES (effective OCT 2016)
If you want the transcon bonus, enter the search with a connection in JFK. (e.g. LAX-JFK,JFK-MIA,MIA-PTY,PTY-JFK,JFK-SFO.) You can play around from there to get the best deal. Some of the better deals do not start and end in the same city (e.g. start in LAX, end in SFO may be cheaper than start/end in LAX).
Also, it's possible on the outbound portion to time it so you have no more than a 60-minute layover at JFK or MIA (though note that some of these flights aren't available on weekends). While yes, JFK is notorious for delays, this rarely applies for inbound red-eye flights. Also, note that AA 28 below is sometimes "hidden" if you're looking on Google Flights inside a much more expensive trip; that does not necessarily mean, however, that you can't get it for one of the trips under $1,000 (in other words, try it out to see).
NOTE: LAX-JFK NO LONGER VALID FOR LOWEST FARES (effective OCT 2016)
Below is the shortest-possible outbound itinerary that has the LAX-JFK transcon on AA's A321T with flat-bed seats:
LAX-JFK on AA 28
10:45pm - 7:22am
JFK-MIA on AA 200
8:15am - 11:24am
(Note: AA has now switched all of the metal it used on this leg - on all JFK-MIA nonstops - to 757s instead of the 767s with international-style F & J seating.)***767 and 772 are back. Flight 200 is a 772**
MIA-PTY on AA 4434
12:33pm - 2:48pm
(Note: Even more distressingly, AA switched from using a 737 on this leg to an RJ, presumably because summer is off-peak season in Central America. The 6:05pm flight still uses a 737 if a full-size aircraft is a must.)
LAX-JFK TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHTS:
Recent fare rule inclusions, effective October 2016, now prevent any routing via JFK on the non-stop transcontinental A321T aircraft. Any future booking will demand a significantly higher fare to route on the non-stops via JFK. Unless the fare rules are modified and these clauses are removed (highly doubtful), the ability to fly on the transcons via JFK is a thing of the past.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN LAX AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SFO AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SFO AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
1. Same day turns possible on the E-jets and morning 738s.
2. Bonuses now based on fare paid.
3. As of OCTOBER 2016, best fares are now around $1000. Fare tends to rise a few hundred for 2 pax. Fares can also occasionally rise for no discernible reason, but the price spikes have thus far proven to be temporary. Fares have the trend to drop during the year. Keep checking for fares in the $700-$800 ranges for best possible pricing.
4. Airport hotels with shuttles - Crowne Plaza Panama Airport & Riande Aeropuerto. The CP is slightly closer; the Riande is slightly nicer. The CP shuttle leaves the hotel every :00 and :30 and runs 24 hours but they seem to leave a few minutes early as it had left when I went down at 4:00AM on the dot. Also, note UberX charges a US$14 surcharge on top of the ~US$2 fare. CP has poor sound isolation, I could hear my neighbors on both sides including talking, crying baby etc. Had to wear earplugs to sleep.
5. Lounges:
Please refer to this thread for more detailed and accurate information on lounge access in general: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1656378-help-desk-will-i-have-lounge-access-access-rules-2016-a.html
LAX AIRPORT
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on status, it is simply departing/connecting/arriving at any point on same ticket to and from an eligible international destination. PTY is eligible and not excluded regardless of length.
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on class of service disregarding status, it is the international long haul clause that applies. Therefore, no "oneworld/QF lounge" access for non-elites for trips to and from PTY unless booking transcons since PTY is under 5 hours. BUT AA doesn't enforce this in their own lounges so Admirals Club access is expected.
AA GOLDs(RUBYs)/NON-ELITES
Admirals Club access is granted regardless of routing as AA does not enforce international long haul rule. However, the oneworld J lounge does for Golds(rubys)/non-elites as they are aware the PTY flights are under 5 hours. Booking transcon flights in J/F gains access to the OWJ/QFF lounges.
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Technically NONE (PTY under 5 hours therefore class of service rule applies) BUT AA still opens Admirals Club doors to all customers because they dont enforce the long-haul rule>
AA PLATINUMs
Platinums gain access to all AC/Business lounges regardless of routing due to flying to and from PTY. They gain access to First/Flagship lounges when traveling in F 3-class transcon
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + LAX oneworld J>
AA EXPs
EXPs have access to all lounges at all airports regardless of routing so long as they are traveling to and from PTY on the same itinerary (an international destination neither excluded from AA's list of ineligible regions nor limited by the flight length rule)
<EXPs Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in Y = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in J = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
NON-AA ONEWORLD ELITES
All sapphires and emeralds have some form of lounge access on any flight systemwide
<non-AA sapphires on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX>
<non-AA emeralds on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX + Flagship Lounge + QF F lounge LAX>
OTHER AIRPORTS
SFO - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
JFK - Admirals Club & Flagship Lounge for EXP/First 3-class/Emerald
MIA - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee), Oneworld Premium Lounge for EXP/First 3-Class/Emerald
PTY - No lounge access (Copa with PP, or for a fee, for 7am or later flights)
YVR - No lounge access (PP for a fee)
DFW - Admiral's Club (with F/C Dining for EXP/Emerald) (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on status, it is simply departing/connecting/arriving at any point on same ticket to and from an eligible international destination. PTY is eligible and not excluded regardless of length.
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on class of service disregarding status, it is the international long haul clause that applies. Therefore, no "oneworld/QF lounge" access for non-elites for trips to and from PTY unless booking transcons since PTY is under 5 hours. BUT AA doesn't enforce this in their own lounges so Admirals Club access is expected.
AA GOLDs(RUBYs)/NON-ELITES
Admirals Club access is granted regardless of routing as AA does not enforce international long haul rule. However, the oneworld J lounge does for Golds(rubys)/non-elites as they are aware the PTY flights are under 5 hours. Booking transcon flights in J/F gains access to the OWJ/QFF lounges.
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Technically NONE (PTY under 5 hours therefore class of service rule applies) BUT AA still opens Admirals Club doors to all customers because they dont enforce the long-haul rule>
AA PLATINUMs
Platinums gain access to all AC/Business lounges regardless of routing due to flying to and from PTY. They gain access to First/Flagship lounges when traveling in F 3-class transcon
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + LAX oneworld J>
AA EXPs
EXPs have access to all lounges at all airports regardless of routing so long as they are traveling to and from PTY on the same itinerary (an international destination neither excluded from AA's list of ineligible regions nor limited by the flight length rule)
<EXPs Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in Y = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in J = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
NON-AA ONEWORLD ELITES
All sapphires and emeralds have some form of lounge access on any flight systemwide
<non-AA sapphires on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX>
<non-AA emeralds on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX + Flagship Lounge + QF F lounge LAX>
OTHER AIRPORTS
SFO - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
JFK - Admirals Club & Flagship Lounge for EXP/First 3-class/Emerald
MIA - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee), Oneworld Premium Lounge for EXP/First 3-Class/Emerald
PTY - No lounge access (Copa with PP, or for a fee, for 7am or later flights)
YVR - No lounge access (PP for a fee)
DFW - Admiral's Club (with F/C Dining for EXP/Emerald) (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
6. PTY Customs:
Inbound to PTY -
Outbound to MIA -
7. Finding flights: - 12 noon - no lines reported
- 8PM Fri (5/27/16) - ~10 min line
Outbound to MIA -
- 4:40am - no lines reported
NOTE: LAX-JFK NO LONGER VALID FOR LOWEST FARES (effective OCT 2016)
If you want the transcon bonus, enter the search with a connection in JFK. (e.g. LAX-JFK,JFK-MIA,MIA-PTY,PTY-JFK,JFK-SFO.) You can play around from there to get the best deal. Some of the better deals do not start and end in the same city (e.g. start in LAX, end in SFO may be cheaper than start/end in LAX).
Also, it's possible on the outbound portion to time it so you have no more than a 60-minute layover at JFK or MIA (though note that some of these flights aren't available on weekends). While yes, JFK is notorious for delays, this rarely applies for inbound red-eye flights. Also, note that AA 28 below is sometimes "hidden" if you're looking on Google Flights inside a much more expensive trip; that does not necessarily mean, however, that you can't get it for one of the trips under $1,000 (in other words, try it out to see).
NOTE: LAX-JFK NO LONGER VALID FOR LOWEST FARES (effective OCT 2016)
Below is the shortest-possible outbound itinerary that has the LAX-JFK transcon on AA's A321T with flat-bed seats:
LAX-JFK on AA 28
10:45pm - 7:22am
JFK-MIA on AA 200
8:15am - 11:24am
(Note: AA has now switched all of the metal it used on this leg - on all JFK-MIA nonstops - to 757s instead of the 767s with international-style F & J seating.)***767 and 772 are back. Flight 200 is a 772**
MIA-PTY on AA 4434
12:33pm - 2:48pm
(Note: Even more distressingly, AA switched from using a 737 on this leg to an RJ, presumably because summer is off-peak season in Central America. The 6:05pm flight still uses a 737 if a full-size aircraft is a must.)
AA: LAX-JFK-MIA-PTY RT $702 in A/J 18.9K EQMs
Sep 2, 2016, 9:36 am
#1696
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Is this a reality show, where y'all are going to complain about every facet of the trip that does not go as planned?
You are on a MILEAGE RUN, which means you are flying ONLY to obtain the EQM's. You are not going to miss a wedding, or a pre-paid hotel room for a week. If things go wrong (which they do during SUMMER travel and when a tropical storm/hurricane is approaching Florida), you will be affected.
Suck it up, use the resources available to you, and adjust as necessary. Stop the whining. This forum is for information, not to express frustration because you feel entitled to something, and you did not receive it. Truly.
You are on a MILEAGE RUN, which means you are flying ONLY to obtain the EQM's. You are not going to miss a wedding, or a pre-paid hotel room for a week. If things go wrong (which they do during SUMMER travel and when a tropical storm/hurricane is approaching Florida), you will be affected.
Suck it up, use the resources available to you, and adjust as necessary. Stop the whining. This forum is for information, not to express frustration because you feel entitled to something, and you did not receive it. Truly.
Cheers 🍻
Sep 2, 2016, 9:37 am
#1697
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 743
Any recommendations for MIA hotels?
Looking at 2 options.
The first is to fly into PTY and overnight there.
The second is to overnight in MIA and then fly to PTY in the morning.
Going to be catching the afternoon flight back to MIA so will get into PTY around 1pm if I overnight in MIA and this gives me 3hrs or so to wait / leeway.
Looking at 2 options.
The first is to fly into PTY and overnight there.
The second is to overnight in MIA and then fly to PTY in the morning.
Going to be catching the afternoon flight back to MIA so will get into PTY around 1pm if I overnight in MIA and this gives me 3hrs or so to wait / leeway.
Sep 2, 2016, 2:36 pm
#1699
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Australia / USA
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Posts: 414
The frequency of delays on a segment-heavy run like this IS valuable information though. Heck, there are threads solely designated to whining!
For the record I'm fully in good spirits about the whole run and everything's going well. Minor delays we've all had to deal with and arent any trouble. It's all good, nobody's feeling entitled or whining, just making clear to whoever might be reading this to have SOME buffer space in your plans to accommodate for a delay because most likely there WILL be one at some point or another. And that IS valuable information.
For the record I'm fully in good spirits about the whole run and everything's going well. Minor delays we've all had to deal with and arent any trouble. It's all good, nobody's feeling entitled or whining, just making clear to whoever might be reading this to have SOME buffer space in your plans to accommodate for a delay because most likely there WILL be one at some point or another. And that IS valuable information.
Sep 3, 2016, 7:48 am
#1702
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: AA Exec Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 45
Looks like I just escaped the disruptions. I had no delays and arrived in PTY early.
8/31 AA180 LAX-JFK 9/1 AA947 JFK-MIA AA1021 MIA-PTY
The only glitch I encountered was accessing my Uber app at PTY using wifi. (Btw, my fare to the Hard Rock was $25 inc tip & toll.) Now I just need the return to go just as smoothly.
8/31 AA180 LAX-JFK 9/1 AA947 JFK-MIA AA1021 MIA-PTY
The only glitch I encountered was accessing my Uber app at PTY using wifi. (Btw, my fare to the Hard Rock was $25 inc tip & toll.) Now I just need the return to go just as smoothly.
Sep 3, 2016, 8:18 am
#1703
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posts: 38,186
Not impressed by the Element, stayed there a few years back. While the Sheraton is fair to middling, it's become my regular overnight hotel at MIA given the easy way of getting there. Never wait for the shuttle from the terminal, just hop the airport train to the parking centre/Metro station, and walk across the street. I take the shuttle back to the terminal though.
Sep 3, 2016, 9:16 am
#1704
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AA4434 MIA-PTY yesterday they offered 500.- for a 6h VDB (they needed two people) I didnt bite but probably should have! That wouldve been more than half the trip price recuperated right there and I couldve spent it at the Centurion lounge. Certainly something for people to look out for.
Sep 3, 2016, 10:55 am
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I'm doing this run right now. I booked it last night -- I found a pretty attractive last-minute set of flights.
Sat Sept 3
LAX-MIA
AA 68 (11:00a - 6:59p)
77W departing from TBIT! So convenient!
Sun Sept 4
MIA-PTY
AA 1021 (9:45a - 11:53a)
738
PTY-MIA
AA 4434 (3:41p - 7:46p)
E75
Mon Sept 5
MIA-BOS
AA 1509 (7:00a - 10:15a)
757
BOS-JFK
AA 1509 (5:35p - 7:02p)
A321T in First ^
JFK-LAX
AA 23 (10:30p - 1:43a)
A321T in Biz
SDC Question: is it possible to SDC one segment of this? Obviously this cant be done online. Can it be done at the airport? By phone? Is there a fee? That segment was booked into A.
I'd love to move the MIA-BOS flight to later -- it's just a crappy 757 so not missing out on anything, and I'd rather spent more time in Miami!
Sat Sept 3
LAX-MIA
AA 68 (11:00a - 6:59p)
77W departing from TBIT! So convenient!
Sun Sept 4
MIA-PTY
AA 1021 (9:45a - 11:53a)
738
PTY-MIA
AA 4434 (3:41p - 7:46p)
E75
Mon Sept 5
MIA-BOS
AA 1509 (7:00a - 10:15a)
757
BOS-JFK
AA 1509 (5:35p - 7:02p)
A321T in First ^
JFK-LAX
AA 23 (10:30p - 1:43a)
A321T in Biz
SDC Question: is it possible to SDC one segment of this? Obviously this cant be done online. Can it be done at the airport? By phone? Is there a fee? That segment was booked into A.
I'd love to move the MIA-BOS flight to later -- it's just a crappy 757 so not missing out on anything, and I'd rather spent more time in Miami!
Sep 3, 2016, 11:24 am
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AA4434 MIA-PTY yesterday they offered 500.- for a 6h VDB (they needed two people) I didnt bite but probably should have! That wouldve been more than half the trip price recuperated right there and I couldve spent it at the Centurion lounge. Certainly something for people to look out for.
Sep 3, 2016, 1:22 pm
#1708
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I'm doing this run right now. I booked it last night -- I found a pretty attractive last-minute set of flights.
Sat Sept 3
LAX-MIA
AA 68 (11:00a - 6:59p)
77W departing from TBIT! So convenient!
Sun Sept 4
MIA-PTY
AA 1021 (9:45a - 11:53a)
738
PTY-MIA
AA 4434 (3:41p - 7:46p)
E75
Mon Sept 5
MIA-BOS
AA 1509 (7:00a - 10:15a)
757
BOS-JFK
AA 1509 (5:35p - 7:02p)
A321T in First ^
JFK-LAX
AA 23 (10:30p - 1:43a)
A321T in Biz
SDC Question: is it possible to SDC one segment of this? Obviously this cant be done online. Can it be done at the airport? By phone? Is there a fee? That segment was booked into A.
I'd love to move the MIA-BOS flight to later -- it's just a crappy 757 so not missing out on anything, and I'd rather spent more time in Miami!
Sat Sept 3
LAX-MIA
AA 68 (11:00a - 6:59p)
77W departing from TBIT! So convenient!
Sun Sept 4
MIA-PTY
AA 1021 (9:45a - 11:53a)
738
PTY-MIA
AA 4434 (3:41p - 7:46p)
E75
Mon Sept 5
MIA-BOS
AA 1509 (7:00a - 10:15a)
757
BOS-JFK
AA 1509 (5:35p - 7:02p)
A321T in First ^
JFK-LAX
AA 23 (10:30p - 1:43a)
A321T in Biz
SDC Question: is it possible to SDC one segment of this? Obviously this cant be done online. Can it be done at the airport? By phone? Is there a fee? That segment was booked into A.
I'd love to move the MIA-BOS flight to later -- it's just a crappy 757 so not missing out on anything, and I'd rather spent more time in Miami!
Also pretty sure BOS-JFK isnt a 321T but a 32B I would assume? New plane but not the transcon product. That's why it's in F.
Security at PTY was a breeze. From leaving my uber to sitting in the COPA lounge took 10 minutes.
Sep 3, 2016, 2:41 pm
#1709
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Officially SDC on an international itinery is not possible outside of JFK-LHR flights but you can always call in and try.
Also pretty sure BOS-JFK isnt a 321T but a 32B I would assume? New plane but not the transcon product. That's why it's in F.
Security at PTY was a breeze. From leaving my uber to sitting in the COPA lounge took 10 minutes.
Also pretty sure BOS-JFK isnt a 321T but a 32B I would assume? New plane but not the transcon product. That's why it's in F.
Security at PTY was a breeze. From leaving my uber to sitting in the COPA lounge took 10 minutes.
Sep 3, 2016, 3:45 pm
#1710
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Location: San Juan Capistrano, CA
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Posts: 2,460
Any recommendations for MIA hotels?
Looking at 2 options.
The first is to fly into PTY and overnight there.
The second is to overnight in MIA and then fly to PTY in the morning.
Going to be catching the afternoon flight back to MIA so will get into PTY around 1pm if I overnight in MIA and this gives me 3hrs or so to wait / leeway.
Looking at 2 options.
The first is to fly into PTY and overnight there.
The second is to overnight in MIA and then fly to PTY in the morning.
Going to be catching the afternoon flight back to MIA so will get into PTY around 1pm if I overnight in MIA and this gives me 3hrs or so to wait / leeway.
OTOH, PTY airport hotels are cheaper than those in MIA.