Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm
Last edit by: skunker
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.
Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html
List of known, active deals:
JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return
BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html
Good Deal Premium Fares 2014
Aug 23, 2014, 1:35 pm
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Aug 23, 2014, 2:15 pm
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Aug 23, 2014, 2:44 pm
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There is also a sub $500 LAX fare which per the routing rules should let you route through atl but all i am seeing is the nonstop for under $500.
Aug 23, 2014, 5:34 pm
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Not an MR, but maybe useful - Jet Airways has >$3k J class flights out of ORD and EWR to BRU for mid-September. E.g., ORD-YYZ-BRU 9/17-9/18, $2619. Good fare, but Google flights was constructing an AA flight to YYZ and Jet to BRU, so dual-alliance.
Aug 23, 2014, 5:46 pm
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$936
Departure from: Bengaluru (Bangalore) (BLR)
Destination: Beijing (PEK)
Stops: Kuala Lumpur
Airline(s): Malaysia Airlines
Sample dates: Sep 2 – Sep 24
Total miles flown: 9,030 miles
Fare class: Business (Z) (should earn 150% all the way)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 10
Departure from: Bengaluru (Bangalore) (BLR)
Destination: Beijing (PEK)
Stops: Kuala Lumpur
Airline(s): Malaysia Airlines
Sample dates: Sep 2 – Sep 24
Total miles flown: 9,030 miles
Fare class: Business (Z) (should earn 150% all the way)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 10
Aug 23, 2014, 7:03 pm
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YYZ-XIY or other Chinese cities $2980 AI
Just bought a ticket in business class on Hainan (HU) out of YYZ to Xian. Wonderful fare, even less than it was 2 weeks ago. I checked out of YOW, YUL, JFK, EWR, and no where was cheaper than YYZ. This is on a new 787 with reportedly good fly flat seats.
AC is simply priced way more. Sorry AC. For what I would pay in economy, I am getting a good J seat without burning up e-ups or stressing whether I would even get a chance to upgrade.
AC is simply priced way more. Sorry AC. For what I would pay in economy, I am getting a good J seat without burning up e-ups or stressing whether I would even get a chance to upgrade.
Aug 23, 2014, 9:34 pm
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There is currently a BA sale on.
IST LAX return in J is a good deal at 4955 TRY (1375 GBP, 2280 USD).
e.g., Monday 15th Sept returning Monday 22nd Sept.
The fare rules together with routing table mean you have to fly on BA flight numbers all the way. TATL flight must be operated by BA. You must connect through LON and can connect again in CHI/NYC/DFW or fly LHR-LAX. BA1-4 is okay (but there is little availability in the next couple of months).
End on end with any public domestic fare is permitted. Sunday night stay required, 14 day advance ticketing requirement, ticket before 16 Sept. Stopovers permitted at 200 EUR each, up to ten days maximum. Outbound travel must begin on/after 02 Sept 2014 and on/before 15 Aug 2015.
Here are the full rules.
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
IST LAX return in J is a good deal at 4955 TRY (1375 GBP, 2280 USD).
e.g., Monday 15th Sept returning Monday 22nd Sept.
The fare rules together with routing table mean you have to fly on BA flight numbers all the way. TATL flight must be operated by BA. You must connect through LON and can connect again in CHI/NYC/DFW or fly LHR-LAX. BA1-4 is okay (but there is little availability in the next couple of months).
End on end with any public domestic fare is permitted. Sunday night stay required, 14 day advance ticketing requirement, ticket before 16 Sept. Stopovers permitted at 200 EUR each, up to ten days maximum. Outbound travel must begin on/after 02 Sept 2014 and on/before 15 Aug 2015.
Here are the full rules.
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Fare Routing Search:
Departing IST on 11/23/14 for LAX
Fare basis code INCSALE
Flying BA
Routing via North Atlantic
Rule Category Rule Text
RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EUROPE TO USA SEMI-FLEXIBLE CLUB WORLD FARE
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN EUROPE AND UNITED STATES.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
JUDGEMENT.
OTHER CONDITIONS
PASSENGER EXPENSES NOT PERMITTED.
ELIGIBILITY NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SEASONALITY NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
FLIGHT APPLICATION FOR TRAVEL ON/BEFORE 19NOV12
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN UNITED
STATES AND EUROPE
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
BA FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7039.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 7863 THROUGH 7949.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 20NOV12
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN UNITED
STATES AND EUROPE
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
BA FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8039.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 7863 THROUGH 7949.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA.
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
MINIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE
FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
MIDNIGHT 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE OUTBOUND AND ON
THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENTS AT EUR 200.00 EACH IN
UNITED KINGDOM
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
A STOPOVER MAY NOT EXCEED 10 DAYS.
TRANSFERS 6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 3 IN EACH
DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
COMBINATIONS END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN
SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET.
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH BA
INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. FARES
MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
WITH BA FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST NOT BE
-IN UNITED KINGDOM COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE
FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
WITH BA FARES WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY
RULE AND TARIFF.
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
COMPONENT.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
WITH BA FARES WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY
RULE AND TARIFF.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS WITH BA FARES
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
-WITHIN UNITED STATES OR WITHIN EUROPE
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER EC IN
ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD
FARES
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER EC IN
ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
SURCHARGES IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR IB.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER.
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AA.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER.
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AS.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER.
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR QF.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER.
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AY.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER.
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR US.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER.
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER.
AND - ORIGINATING NORTH AMERICA -
FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 428.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
AND - ORIGINATING EUROPE -
FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 170.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AS.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR QF.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AY.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR US.
THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER ANY PASSENGER.
ORIGINATING NORTH AMERICA -
FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 428.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
AND - ORIGINATING EUROPE -
FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 170.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 02SEP14 AND ON/
BEFORE 15AUG15.
SALES RESTRICTIONS FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 19AUG14 AND ON/BEFORE
16SEP14.
FARE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR IB.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. EXTENSION OF TICKET
VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AA.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF
TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN ARGENTINA/VENEZUELA.
PENALTIES CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS
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WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE
CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT
IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY
2.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
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REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. FUEL AND INSURANCE
SURCHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 350.00.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US -
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS
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CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ADULT CHILD AND INFANT WITH SEAT.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
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A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/
REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
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REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN DEPARTURE TIME OF
THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR REFUND
IF APPLICABLE.
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WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
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---- REPRICING CONDITIONS ----
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE
THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE TO
BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT AND
RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE
COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-
PRICED
USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT
ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-WHICHEVER IS
LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
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1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE
LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE
MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
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WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED AND THE ABOVE CHANGE
FEE APPLIES.
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL
AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
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ORIGINAL REFUND CONDITIONS APPLY TO ANY UPGRADED
TICKET.
--------------------------------------------------
NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION
AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NOTE -
ANY MILEAGE SURCHARGE AND ANY HIGHER INTERMEDIATE
FARE MAY BE IGNORED.
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- CONDITIONS APPLY - AND - NON ENDORSEABLE-BA ONLY -
IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TICKETS MUST SHOW BY THE USE OF AN INSERT OR
STICKER THAT TRAVEL IS AT A SPECIAL FARE AND
SUBJECT TO SPECIAL CONDITIONS
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR UNDER 12 - CHARGE 67
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 67
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 67
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE.
GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE EUR 350.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
SEAT AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
8. TKT MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME AS CHANGE
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
6. TKT MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME AS CHANGE
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO
FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE EUR 350.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
SEAT AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
7. TKT MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME AS CHANGE
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO
FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
.
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE.
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
.
Last edited by Calchas; Aug 23, 2014 at 9:44 pm
Aug 23, 2014, 9:55 pm
#2379
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS
Posts: 15,027
LAX-IST is almost double the price 
Even Thanksgiving airfares are criminally expensive.
Even Thanksgiving airfares are criminally expensive.
Aug 24, 2014, 2:36 am
#2380
Used to be highman123
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,541
from Maputo, Mozambique to Buenos Aires, Argentina $3,028
$3,028
Departure from: Maputo, Mozambique (MPM)
Destination: Buenos Aires, Argentina (EZE)
Stops: Johannesburg (JNB), Dubai (DXB), Rio de Janeiro (GIG)
Airline(s): Emirates, South African Airways
Sample dates: Jan 14 – Jan 21
Total miles flown: 25,742 miles
Fare class: Business (Z), Business (I)
(should earn 75% in I class parts, 25,206 miles)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 11
Departure from: Maputo, Mozambique (MPM)
Destination: Buenos Aires, Argentina (EZE)
Stops: Johannesburg (JNB), Dubai (DXB), Rio de Janeiro (GIG)
Airline(s): Emirates, South African Airways
Sample dates: Jan 14 – Jan 21
Total miles flown: 25,742 miles
Fare class: Business (Z), Business (I)
(should earn 75% in I class parts, 25,206 miles)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 11
Aug 24, 2014, 2:37 am
#2381
Used to be highman123
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,541
from Bangalore to Tokyo $1,063
$1,063
Departure from: Bangalore (BLR)
Destination: Tokyo (NRT)
Stops: Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Airline(s): Malaysia Airlines
Sample dates: Jan 7 – Jan 13
Total miles flown: 10,300 miles
Fare class: Business (Z) (should earn 150% all the way)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 10
Departure from: Bangalore (BLR)
Destination: Tokyo (NRT)
Stops: Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Airline(s): Malaysia Airlines
Sample dates: Jan 7 – Jan 13
Total miles flown: 10,300 miles
Fare class: Business (Z) (should earn 150% all the way)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 10
Aug 24, 2014, 2:57 am
#2382
Used to be highman123
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,541
from Alexandria to Singapore $1,417
$1,417
Departure from: Alexandria (HBE)
Destination: Singapore (SIN)
Stops: Istanbul (IST)
Airline(s): Turkish Airlines
Sample dates: Jan 18 – Jan 24
Total miles flown: 12,158 miles
Fare class: Business (J) (should earn 100% all the way)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 11
Departure from: Alexandria (HBE)
Destination: Singapore (SIN)
Stops: Istanbul (IST)
Airline(s): Turkish Airlines
Sample dates: Jan 18 – Jan 24
Total miles flown: 12,158 miles
Fare class: Business (J) (should earn 100% all the way)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 11
Aug 24, 2014, 4:45 am
#2383
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: SIN
Programs: BA Executive Club, SQ Krisflyer
Posts: 356
Bangkok (BKK) to Tokyo Narita (NRT) via 1 stop Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Cost: 27,345THB (Approx $856USD)
Airline: Malaysia Airlines (MH)
Class of Travel: Business (Z)
Alliance: OneWorld
Sample Dates: 6-10 Oct 2014
Flying distance: 8270 miles
Earning Rates: Enrich - 150%; AA/BA/QF - 125%
CPM: 6.9 (Enrich), 8.2 (AA/BA/QF)
** First time doing this CPM calculation, if I'm wrong pls let me know. Thanks
Cost: 27,345THB (Approx $856USD)
Airline: Malaysia Airlines (MH)
Class of Travel: Business (Z)
Alliance: OneWorld
Sample Dates: 6-10 Oct 2014
Flying distance: 8270 miles
Earning Rates: Enrich - 150%; AA/BA/QF - 125%
CPM: 6.9 (Enrich), 8.2 (AA/BA/QF)
** First time doing this CPM calculation, if I'm wrong pls let me know. Thanks
Last edited by tango3; Aug 24, 2014 at 4:54 am
Aug 24, 2014, 9:33 am
#2384
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: MUC
Posts: 96
JNB-SEZ-AUH-GRU return
EY and HM Business
2778 USD ai
through elumbus.de
sample date 28.10. - 11.11.2014
EY and HM Business
2778 USD ai
through elumbus.de
sample date 28.10. - 11.11.2014
Aug 24, 2014, 3:35 pm
#2385
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: North America
Programs: DL Diamond, former UA1K MM lifetime (left UA for DL), FPCPlat, DL Biz and Plat Amex
Posts: 644
AF Z rt yyz - sin (thru cdg) us$3243 ai $.156 pm
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Toronto (YYZ) to Singapore (SIN) - Wed, Oct 8
Air France Toronto (YYZ) to Paris (CDG) - Wed, Oct 8
Air France 351 Dep: 6:40PM Arr: 8:00AM 7h 20m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Layover in CDG Thu, Oct 9 11h 20m
Air France Paris (CDG) to Singapore (SIN) - Thu, Oct 9
Air France 254 Dep: 7:20PM Arr: 2:15PM 12h 55m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Fri, Oct 10
Singapore (SIN) to Toronto (YYZ) - Tue, Oct 14
Air France Singapore (SIN) to Paris (CDG) - Tue, Oct 14
Air France 259 Dep: 12:25AM Arr: 7:55AM 13h 30m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Layover in CDG 6h 0m
Air France Paris (CDG) to Toronto (YYZ) - Tue, Oct 14
Air France 356 Dep: 1:55PM Arr: 4:15PM 8h 20m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,243.30
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,243.30
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Fare 1: Carrier AF ZXPRCA YTO to SIN (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers YYZ-CDG (Business), CDG-SIN (Business)
$1,109.58
Fare 2: Carrier AF ZXPRCA SIN to YTO (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers SIN-CDG (Business), CDG-YYZ (Business)
$1,109.58
AF YR surcharge (YR) $863.40
French Aviation Civile Tax (FR) $21.00
French International Passenger Service Charge (QX) $41.00
French Airport Tax (FR) $21.80
Toronto Airport Improvement Fee (SQ) $23.00
Canadian Harmonized Sales Tax (ON) (RC) $3.00
Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA) $23.80
Singapore Passenger Service Charge (SG) $16.00
Singapore Aviation Levy (OP) $4.90
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge (OO) $6.40
Subtotal per passenger $3,243.30
Number of passengers x1
TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES $3,243.30
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare construction (can be useful to travel agents)
YTO AF X/PAR AF SIN 1106.05ZXPRCA AF X/PAR AF YTO 1106.05ZXPRCA NUC 2212.10 END ROE 1.092170 XT 23.80CA 3.00RC 23.00SQ 42.80FR 41.00QX 6.40OO 4.90OP 16.00SG 863.40YR
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Mileage
20798 total miles
CO2 emissions
11823 lbs (estimated by ITA)
Airport Information
Toronto Lester B Pearson (YYZ)
Singapore Changi (SIN)
Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG)
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Flights
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Toronto (YYZ) to Singapore (SIN) - Wed, Oct 8
Air France Toronto (YYZ) to Paris (CDG) - Wed, Oct 8
Air France 351 Dep: 6:40PM Arr: 8:00AM 7h 20m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Layover in CDG Thu, Oct 9 11h 20m
Air France Paris (CDG) to Singapore (SIN) - Thu, Oct 9
Air France 254 Dep: 7:20PM Arr: 2:15PM 12h 55m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Fri, Oct 10
Singapore (SIN) to Toronto (YYZ) - Tue, Oct 14
Air France Singapore (SIN) to Paris (CDG) - Tue, Oct 14
Air France 259 Dep: 12:25AM Arr: 7:55AM 13h 30m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Layover in CDG 6h 0m
Air France Paris (CDG) to Toronto (YYZ) - Tue, Oct 14
Air France 356 Dep: 1:55PM Arr: 4:15PM 8h 20m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,243.30
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,243.30
How to buy this ticket
Tickets cannot be purchased directly from ITA Software.
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare 1: Carrier AF ZXPRCA YTO to SIN (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers YYZ-CDG (Business), CDG-SIN (Business)
$1,109.58
Fare 2: Carrier AF ZXPRCA SIN to YTO (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Z
Covers SIN-CDG (Business), CDG-YYZ (Business)
$1,109.58
AF YR surcharge (YR) $863.40
French Aviation Civile Tax (FR) $21.00
French International Passenger Service Charge (QX) $41.00
French Airport Tax (FR) $21.80
Toronto Airport Improvement Fee (SQ) $23.00
Canadian Harmonized Sales Tax (ON) (RC) $3.00
Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA) $23.80
Singapore Passenger Service Charge (SG) $16.00
Singapore Aviation Levy (OP) $4.90
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge (OO) $6.40
Subtotal per passenger $3,243.30
Number of passengers x1
TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES $3,243.30
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare construction (can be useful to travel agents)
YTO AF X/PAR AF SIN 1106.05ZXPRCA AF X/PAR AF YTO 1106.05ZXPRCA NUC 2212.10 END ROE 1.092170 XT 23.80CA 3.00RC 23.00SQ 42.80FR 41.00QX 6.40OO 4.90OP 16.00SG 863.40YR
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Mileage
20798 total miles
CO2 emissions
11823 lbs (estimated by ITA)
Airport Information
Toronto Lester B Pearson (YYZ)
Singapore Changi (SIN)
Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG)
NOTE: Tickets cannot be purchased from ITA Software.