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Old Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 8:18 am
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Not sure if this has been discussed. Booked DL ROC-LIM in Z for $1747 RT yesterday. Outbound Oct 9, Return Oct 15. This is a 767 with lie flat.

11,700 MQMs and around 20K RDMs.

Fare seems to have risen into the 1800s as of today.

Nothing else like this in the widebody Latin America markets that I can find.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by jer
Not sure if this has been discussed. Booked DL ROC-LIM in Z for $1747 RT yesterday. Outbound Oct 9, Return Oct 15. This is a 767 with lie flat.

11,700 MQMs and around 20K RDMs.

Fare seems to have risen into the 1800s as of today.

Nothing else like this in the widebody Latin America markets that I can find.
Posted it for the other way last week.

From Canada and western US too, and it works the other way. I think for the same, you can get LIM-ATL-HNL r/t with 332 equipment on the ATl-HNL leg. More difficult for Z availability on weekends.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by skunker
Yes, it has always been that way.

The problem with these QR exCAI fares is booking them. Several OTAs will bring them up (e.g. Orbitz) but crap out during the booking. Use a TA and they should be able to get the QR flight both ways (pending availability).
I called up QR and was able to get them to book a CAI/DOH/JFK/LAX itinerary in the end after much discussion about booking classes.

However the fare was £1500 instead of the £1300 matrix thinks is possible
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 2:41 pm
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Anyone know if this one will crap out during the actual booking? I'm not sure as it's right at the edge of what is currently bookable..dates from 1/7/15 onward.

Price £1046

Departure from: Copenhagen (CPH)

Destination: New York (JFK)

Airline: BA

Booking site: ba.com

Fare Class: J/I/I/J

Example dates

Is visible in KAYAK and appears to be bookable via ba.com, have taken it all the way to 'book and pay' (prices in DKK)
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Armodeen
Anyone know if this one will crap out during the actual booking? I'm not sure as it's right at the edge of what is currently bookable..dates from 1/7/15 onward.

Price £1046

Departure from: Copenhagen (CPH)

Destination: New York (JFK)

Airline: BA

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Should be fine - Likely due to low fares offered by Norwegian.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 4:12 pm
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Should be fine - Likely due to low fares offered by Norwegian.
DY aren't offering any J fares, so it's not so clear why BA are doing this. I had always considered the deep discount Y market to be quite isolated from the discount J market but perhaps that is a mistaken contention.

Still, good find. The fare is publicly published so it seems perfectly genuine.

Here's the full detail.

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Routing Search:
Departing CPH on 07/01/15 for JFK
Fare basis code ILR28AP
Flying BA
Routing via North Atlantic

Rule Category                           Rule Text

RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS      NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
                                           VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                           BUSINESS CLASS TRANSATLANTIC FARES
                                           APPLICATION
                                            CLASS OF SERVICE
                                             THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
                                            TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
                                             FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
                                              ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
                                             THE TICKET IS INVALID IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT
                                              USED IN SEQUENCE.
                                              FARE DOES NOT APPLY FOR REFUND CALCULATION AFTER
                                              TRAVEL AT A HIGHER FARE
                                              PASSENGER EXPENCES NOT ABSORBED BY CARRIER.
                                            CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
                                             THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
                                              CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
                                              THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
                                              AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
                                              WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
                                              FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
                                              JUDGEMENT.
                                             LEVEL- ARE NOT SUBJECT TO CAPACITY CONTROL.
                                        
ELIGIBILITY                                NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
                                        
DAY/TIME                                   NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                        
SEASONALITY                                PERMITTED 01JUL THROUGH 31AUG OR 23NOV THROUGH 30NOV
                                           OR 23DEC THROUGH 02JAN OR 27MAR THROUGH 12APR ON THE
                                           OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE
                                           OF ORIGIN.
                                        
FLIGHT APPLICATION                         THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                 BA FLIGHTS 7005 THROUGH 7049.
                                           AND
                                           THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   US FLIGHTS 0001 THROUGH 0399
                                                   US FLIGHTS 0900 THROUGH 1699
                                                   US FLIGHTS 2200 THROUGH 2674
                                                   US FLIGHTS 2975 THROUGH 3199
                                                   US FLIGHTS 3525 THROUGH 3699
                                                   US FLIGHTS 4400 THROUGH 4499
                                                   US FLIGHTS 4800 THROUGH 9999.
                                           AND
                                           THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                 AA FLIGHTS 7863 THROUGH 7949.
                                           AND
                                           THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
                                                   AS FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999
                                                   AS FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3274
                                                   AS FLIGHTS 3350 THROUGH 7299
                                                   AS FLIGHTS 7310 THROUGH 9999.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII
                                           AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./CANADA
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY AC FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AM FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AS FLIGHT
                                                   ANY HA FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA
                                           AND UNITED STATES/MEXICO
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                 ANY AC FLIGHT
                                                 ANY AM FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN UNITED
                                           STATES AND MEXICO
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                 ANY AS FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII
                                           AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./ALASKA
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                 ANY AS FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII
                                           AND CANADA
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                 ANY AS FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MEXICO
                                           AND UNITED STATES
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                 ANY AC FLIGHT
                                                 ANY AM FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN NORTH
                                           AMERICA AND INTERNATIONAL POINTS IN THE CARIBBEAN AREA/
                                           SOUTH AMERICA
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                 ANY AC FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY BA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY US FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY IB FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AY FLIGHT
                                                   ANY BD FLIGHT OPERATED BY BD.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN CANADA
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY BA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY US FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY IB FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AC FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AY FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN MEXICO
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY BA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY US FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY IB FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AM FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AY FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN HAWAII
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY BA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY US FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY IB FLIGHT
                                                   ANY HA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AY FLIGHT.
                                           AND
                                           IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1
                                               THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY BA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY US FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY IB FLIGHT
                                                   ANY HA FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AM FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AS FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AC FLIGHT
                                                   ANY AY FLIGHT
                                                   ANY B6 FLIGHT.
                                        
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING             CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
                                           LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
                                           WAITLIST AND STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
                                           TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
                                           RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE
                                           DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST
                                                  BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT
                                                  REMARK.
                                                  THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.
                                        
MINIMUM STAY                               TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE
                                           NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE
                                           OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
                                        
MAXIMUM STAY                               TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
                                           MIDNIGHT 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
                                        
STOPOVERS                                  STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
                                        
TRANSFERS                                  2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
                                                 2 PERMITTED IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
                                           AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
                                                       1 PERMITTED BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK
                                                      IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                       1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB/US AND AS IN
                                                      LAX/PDX/SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                       1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB/US AND AM IN
                                                      MEXICO IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                       1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB/US AND AC IN
                                                      CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                       1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB/US AND HA IN
                                                      HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                       2 PERMITTED VIA AA/BA/IB/US ONLY IN NORTH
                                                      AMERICA IN EACH DIRECTION.
                                                 FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
                                                 EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
                                                 COMPONENT.
                                        
COMBINATIONS                               END-ON-END
                                             END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
                                             FARES FROM/TO NORTH AMERICA. VALIDATE ALL FARE
                                             COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
                                             RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
                                             TICKET.
                                             END-ON-END NOTE -
                                               ADDONS PERMITTED
                                           END-ON-END
                                             END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL
                                             FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
                                             PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN
                                             SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET.
                                             NOTE -
                                               ADDONS PERMITTED
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE NOT FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY/US
                                               WITHIN EUROPE.
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY/US.
                                           OPEN JAWS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
                                              A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
                                              PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
                                              LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
                                              COMPONENT.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB/
                                               AY/US IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
                                               AATBAR  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1/2 EXCEPT USA/CA
                                               FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1/3 EXCEPT USA/CA
                                               FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
                                               IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                               IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
                                               VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
                                               MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
                                               AREA 3
                                               SA2BAR  - BETWEEN WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                                               ATL
                                               SA3BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3
                                               VIA ATL
                                               TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
                                           ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
                                             -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD
                                              FARES
                                              A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
                                              PERMITTED.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB/
                                               AY/US IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
                                               AATBAR  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1/2 EXCEPT USA/CA
                                               FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1/3 EXCEPT USA/CA
                                               FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
                                               IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                               IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
                                               VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
                                               MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
                                               AREA 3
                                               SA2BAR  - BETWEEN WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                                               ATL
                                               SA3BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3
                                               VIA ATL
                                               TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
                                           OPEN JAWS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
                                              A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
                                              PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
                                              LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
                                              COMPONENT.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN
                                               ANY RULE IN TARIFF
                                               IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                               IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
                                               VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
                                               MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
                                               AREA 3.
                                           ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
                                             -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
                                              A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE BREAK POINTS PERMITTED.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN
                                               ANY RULE IN TARIFF
                                               IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                               IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
                                               VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
                                               MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
                                               AREA 3.
                                        
BLACKOUT DATES                             NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
                                        
SURCHARGES                                 IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
                                           AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                                 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR IB.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
                                             DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
                                             ANY PASSENGER.
                                           IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
                                           AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                                 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AA.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
                                             DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
                                             ANY PASSENGER.
                                           IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
                                           AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                                 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AS.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
                                             DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
                                             ANY PASSENGER.
                                           IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
                                           AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                                 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR QF.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
                                             DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
                                             ANY PASSENGER.
                                           IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
                                           AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                                 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AY.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
                                             DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
                                             ANY PASSENGER.
                                           IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
                                           AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                                 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR US.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
                                             DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
                                             ANY PASSENGER.
                                           IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER
                                             DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
                                             ANY PASSENGER.
                                             AND - ORIGINATING NORTH AMERICA -
                                               FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 428.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
                                               ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
                                             AND - ORIGINATING EUROPE -
                                               FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 170.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
                                               ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
                                           THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                           TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR IB.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AA.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AS.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR QF.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AY.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR US.
                                             THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER ANY PASSENGER.
                                           ORIGINATING NORTH AMERICA -
                                             FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 428.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
                                             ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
                                             AND - ORIGINATING EUROPE -
                                               FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 170.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
                                               ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
                                        
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL                         ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
                                        
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS                        NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                        
SALES RESTRICTIONS                         FARE RULE
                                           TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AA.
                                           TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
                                           ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET
                                           VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR IB.
                                                TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
                                                ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF
                                                TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AY.
                                                TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
                                                ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF
                                                TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
                                           OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR US.
                                                TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
                                                ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF
                                                TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
                                         
                                           GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
                                           TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN ARGENTINA/VENEZUELA.
                                        
PENALTIES                                  ANY TIME
                                               TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
                                                  TRAVELLING COMPANIONS
                                                  ----------------------------------------------
                                                  WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
                                                  THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE
                                                  CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES
                                                  WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
                                                  WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
                                                  NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
                                                  1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT
                                                  IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY
                                                  2.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
                                                  COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
                                                  -----------------------------------------------
                                                  REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
                                                  THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. FUEL AND INSURANCE
                                                  SURCHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
                                                  -----------------------------------------------
                                           
                                           CHANGES
                                           
                                             ANY TIME
                                               CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US -
                                                  ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
                                                  REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
                                                  AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTION.
                                                  -------------------------------------------------
                                                  THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
                                                  FOR ADULT AND CHILD
                                                  INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY
                                                  CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY
                                                  ------------------------------------------------
                                                  WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED
                                                  THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
                                                  COMPONENTS WILL APPLY
                                                  ------------------------------------------------
                                                  A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR
                                                  RESERVATION CHANGE
                                                  ------------------------------------------------
                                                  PASSENGERS WHO NO-SHOW FOR A FLIGHT WILL BE
                                                  CONSIDERED AS A CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND
                                                  WILL RECEIVE NO REFUND OF THE FARE. CHANGES WILL
                                                  NOT BE PERMITTED.
                                                  -------------------------------------------------
                                                  WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
                                                  DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED - AND - ANY CHANGE
                                                  FEE APPLIED
                                                  -------------------------------------------------
                                                  WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
                                                  CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL BE
                                                   MADE.
                                                  -------------------------------------------------
                                                  REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
                                                  AS THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED
                                                  ------------------------------------------------
                                                  //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
                                                  1.WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
                                                  ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
                                                  EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED
                                                  THE ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE
                                                  NEWLY TICKETED FARE I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/
                                                  TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM STAY/BOOKING
                                                  CLASSES/SEASONALITY ETC....
                                                  -----------------------------------------------
                                                  2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
                                                  COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
                                                  THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING
                                                   HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
                                                   TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT
                                                   ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-WHICHEVER IS
                                                   LOWER.
                                                   THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE PROVISIONS
                                                   OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES
                                                  -----------------------------------------------
                                                  //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
                                                  THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL
                                                  FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
                                                  THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE RULE
                                                  PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES SUCH THAT
                                                  THE RECALCULATED FARE COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE
                                                  NEW ITINERARY IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL  TICKET
                                                  ISSUE DATE.
                                        
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS                     NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
                                        
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS                        THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
                                           - RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
                                        
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS                         FARE RULE
                                           CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
                                             THE FARE.
                                                 TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH.
                                             MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT PSGR.
                                           OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT
                                                    PSGR.
                                           OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT
                                                    PSGR.
                                           OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM.
                                         
                                           GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
                                           CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
                                             THE FARE.
                                                 TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
                                             MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                               COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                           OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
                                                  CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  FOR TRAVEL WHOLLY WITHIN THE AREA COMPRISED OF THE
                                                  BAHAMAS/CANADA/CUBA/DOMINICAN REPUBLIC/HAITI/
                                                  JAMAICA/MEXICO NO CHARGES APPLY FOR ACCOMPANIED
                                                  INFANTS NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT.
                                           OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  UNACCOMPANIED FARES APPLY WHETHER OR NOT BA
                                                  ASSIGNS AN EMPLOYEE FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAKING
                                                  CARE OF THE CHILD-REN-/INFANT-S-.
                                        
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS                   TUR/TOUR CONDUCTOR PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
                                        
AGENT DISCOUNTS                            AGT/AGENT PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
                                        
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS                        NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
                                        
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS                   NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
FARE BY RULE                               NOT APPLICABLE.
                                        
GROUPS                                     NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
TOURS                                      NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY                      NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
DEPOSITS                                   NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
VOLUNTARY CHANGES                          IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
                                           BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                           BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                           CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
                                             2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                             MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                             3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
                                             5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                             OR -
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                             MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                             2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
                                             4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                           WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
                                           ADD-COLLECT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
                                           OR -
                                           BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                           BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                           NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
                                             CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
                                             WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                           WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
                                           ADD-COLLECT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
                                           OR -
                                           AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                           BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                           CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                             MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                             2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             3. BA FARES ARE USED
                                             4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                           WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
                                           ADD-COLLECT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
                                           OR -
                                           AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                           BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                           NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
                                             CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
                                             WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                           WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
                                           ADD-COLLECT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
                                        .
                                        
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS                          NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
                                        
NEGOTIATED FARES                           NOT APPLICABLE.
                                        
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION                 NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
                                        .
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 4:15 pm
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Just got an email about a Lan sale:

http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso.../fly-from-nyc/

http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...ly-from-miami/

MIA-BOG for $699 sounds good.
MIA-LIM for $1199, etc.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 4:51 pm
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summer skiing in Chile

YYZ-SCL-YYZ ~ $2,100 USD


Toronto (YYZ) to Santiago (SCL) - Thu, Aug 28
AVIANCA Toronto (YYZ) to San Salvador (SAL) - Thu, Aug 28
AVIANCA 627 Dep: 4:45PM Arr: 8:00PM 5h 15m Airbus A320 Business (C)
OPERATED BY LINEAS AEREAS COSTARRICENSES-LACSA Layover in SAL 0h 35m

AVIANCA San Salvador (SAL) to Bogota (BOG) - Thu, Aug 28
AVIANCA 365 Dep: 8:35PM Arr: 12:30AM 2h 55m Airbus A319 Business (C)
OPERATED BY TACA INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES - TACA Layover in BOG Fri, Aug 29 13h 49m

AVIANCA Bogota (BOG) to Santiago (SCL) - Fri, Aug 29
AVIANCA 241 Dep: 2:19PM Arr: 9:09PM 5h 50m Airbus A319 Business (C)
OPERATED BY AVIANCA

Santiago (SCL) to Toronto (YYZ) - Sat, Sep 6
AVIANCA Santiago (SCL) to Lima (LIM) - Sat, Sep 6
AVIANCA 624 Dep: 6:30AM Arr: 9:20AM 3h 50m Airbus A321 Business (C)
OPERATED BY LINEAS AEREAS COSTARRICENSES-LACSA Layover in LIM 1h 10m

AVIANCA Lima (LIM) to San Salvador (SAL) - Sat, Sep 6
AVIANCA 416 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 1:55PM 4h 25m Airbus A320 Business (C)
OPERATED BY TACA INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES - TACA Layover in SAL 18h 35m

AVIANCA San Salvador (SAL) to Toronto (YYZ) - Sun, Sep 7
AVIANCA 626 Dep: 8:30AM Arr: 3:30PM 5h 0m Airbus A320 Business (C)
OPERATED BY LINEAS AEREAS COSTARRICENSES-LACSA

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $2,087.83
Total cost for 1 passenger $2,087.83
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by onfo
Just got an email about a Lan sale:

http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso.../fly-from-nyc/

http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...ly-from-miami/

MIA-BOG for $699 sounds good.
MIA-LIM for $1199, etc.
Good fares to B.A. as well.

FYI, here are LA's current/future 787 routes

LAN Airlines # Santiago de Chile Buenos Aires Ezeiza Vary

LAN Airlines # Santiago de Chile Lima Vary Occasional operation

LAN Airlines # Santiago de Chile Madrid Frankfurt 7 SCL MAD 10 wkly 08JUL14 - 06AUG14

LAN Airlines # Santiago de Chile New York JFK


LAN Airlines # 08AUG14 Santiago de Chile Miami # 763 11 14 from 07OCT14

LAN Airlines # 09AUG14 Santiago de Chile Cancun Miami # 763 1

LAN Airlines # 10AUG14 Santiago de Chile Punta Cana Miami # 763 1

LAN Airlines # 01OCT14 18OCT14 Santiago de Chile Sao Paulo # 763 6

LAN Airlines # 14OCT14 Santiago de Chile Lima
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
DY aren't offering any J fares, so it's not so clear why BA are doing this. I had always considered the deep discount Y market to be quite isolated from the discount J market but perhaps that is a mistaken contention.


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They offer a premium class. Many others are offering even better fares (e.g. $1600 for AC).
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 5:44 pm
  #2231  
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Originally Posted by erik123
They offer a premium class. Many others are offering even better fares (e.g. $1600 for AC).
Whatever you think of BA's cramped flat bed layout, DY's once-every-two-days premium economy is not J.

1600 CAD is pretty nice though!
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Old Aug 9, 2014, 12:15 am
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Originally Posted by roastpuff
This will earn for AS MVP program for sure, Delta's earning rules makes my head hurt.
For sure? I highly doubt the KL39XX flights will earn on AS, the rest yes...

http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...tners/klm.aspx
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Old Aug 9, 2014, 12:16 am
  #2233  
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Originally Posted by Armodeen
Anyone know if this one will crap out during the actual booking? I'm not sure as it's right at the edge of what is currently bookable..dates from 1/7/15 onward.

Price £1046

Departure from: Copenhagen (CPH)

Destination: New York (JFK)

Airline: BA

Booking site: ba.com

Fare Class: J/I/I/J

Example dates

Is visible in KAYAK and appears to be bookable via ba.com, have taken it all the way to 'book and pay' (prices in DKK)
Seeing something similar around Christmas and also on Swiss (LX).
CPH-ZRH-JFK-ZRH-CPH
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Old Aug 9, 2014, 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by Markie
Seeing something similar around Christmas and also on Swiss (LX).
CPH-ZRH-JFK-ZRH-CPH
*A fares dates into 2015


Code:
Deutsche Lufthansa AG LH PLNNDKW CPH to EWR
General notes
BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION NONREF FARES     P
Between AREA 1 and AREA 2 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT
IATA/CARRIER REFERENCE - I3
Seasonal restrictions
  PERMITTED 01JUL 14 THROUGH 31AUG 14 OR 22NOV 14 THROUGH
  29NOV 14 OR 21DEC 14 THROUGH 10JAN 15 OR 28MAR 15 THROUGH
  11APR 15 OR 01JUL 15 THROUGH 31AUG 15 OR 21NOV 15 THROUGH
  28NOV 15 OR 24DEC 15 THROUGH 31DEC 15 OR 19MAR 16 THROUGH
  03APR 16 OR 01JUL 16 THROUGH 31AUG 16 OR 19NOV 16 THROUGH
  26NOV 16 OR 24DEC 16 THROUGH 31DEC 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Flight restrictions
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY VO.
Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
  RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 21 DAYS
  BEFORE DEPARTURE.
  WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEFORE
  DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS
  AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE
  DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
  OR - RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 21
       DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
       TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 48 HOURS AFTER
       RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE
       DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
         NOTE -
          WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED AT TIME OF TICKETING.
          TIME OF TICKETING IS DEFINED ACCORDING TO TICKET
          TIME LIMIT. IF TTL IS NOT RESPECTED ALL SEGMENTS
          WILL BE CANCELLED.
          ----
          DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL
          DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE
          LAST TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED
          TICKETING DEADLINE MESSAGE.
          THE MORE RESTRICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES.
          ----
          ANY RESERVATION FOR FARES WITH TICKETING DEADLINE
          NOT TICKETED AT LEAST 26 HOURS
          BEFORE DEPARTURE WILL BE CANCELLED. THIS APPLIES
          IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE MENTIONED DEADLINES.
          RESERVATIONS MADE WITHIN 26 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE
          REQUIRE TICKETING AT THE SAME TIME.
Minimum stay requirements
  TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
  EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Maximum stay requirements
  TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
  MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Stopover restrictions
  1 STOPOVER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 1.
         NOTE -
          EACH STOPOVER TAKEN UTILIZES A PERMITTED TRANSFER.
          UNLESS RESTRICTED BY ROUTING ATTACHED TO FARE
          RECORDS.
Transfer restrictions
  5 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
      3 FREE IN AREA 2 IN EACH DIRECTION
      2 FREE IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION
    FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
     SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
         NOTE -
          UNLESS RESTRICTED BY ROUTING ATTACHED TO FARE
          RECORDS.
Combinability
   APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANE
   PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
  END-ON-END
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES WITHIN AREA
    1. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER UA/AC
  OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
     MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
     MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
    -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
     A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
     PERMITTED.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/UA/AC/OS/
     LX/SN IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
Surcharges
  IF INFANT 0-1 WITHOUT A SEAT.
    THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE.
         NOTE -
          SALE OF THIS FARE IS PERMITTED WORLDWIDE.
          THIS SURCHARGE IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN TICKETS ARE
          SOLD IN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN.
  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF.
    A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 230.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
    TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR BETWEEN EUROPE AND
    MIDDLE EAST.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 60.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          EUROPE.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AREA 1.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 60.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          MIDDLE EAST.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND SOUTH AMERICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 60.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND INTL. POINTS IN THE
          CARIBBEAN AREA/CENTRAL AMERICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 60.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 260.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          AREA 3.
         NOTE -
          SALE OF THIS FARE IS PERMITTED WORLDWIDE.
          THIS SURCHARGE IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN TICKETS ARE
          SOLD IN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN.
Sales restrictions
  EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
  TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN ARGENTINA.
  TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
         NOTE -
           SALES RESTRICTIONS/ SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT
           COUPONS
           OTHER CONDITIONS
           SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS - THIS FARE IS
           ONLY VALID IF THE FLIGHTS ARE TAKEN IN THE BOOKED
           SEQUENCE. OTHERWISE THE FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED
           BASED ON THE ACTUAL FLIGHT ROUTING.
          RESPECTIVE REISSUE MUST BE DONE AS DESCRIBED IN
          GGAIRLHPT5INFO - OUT OF SEQUENCE REISSUE /1A USER/
                GC.LH - GP.68 /1G USER/
                G/AIR/LH0 - CAT TICKETING /1P USER/
                ESERVICE.SABRE.COM - CAT TICKETING /1S USER/
                S.LHB/TICKETING /1V USER/
Penalties
  CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         NOTE -
          WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE.
          ----
          THE FOLLOWING RULES APPLY PER PRICING UNIT.
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THE MOST RESTRICTIVE
          CANCELLATION CONDITIONS APPLY FOR THE ENTIRE
          PRICING UNIT.
          ----
          FULL REFUND PERMITTED BEFORE DEPARTURE IN CASE OF
          REJECTION OF VISA. EMBASSY STATEMENT REQUIRED.
          ----
          REFUND OF UNUSED FEES AND TAXES PERMITTED.
          UNLESS APPLICABLE OW/RT FARE PLUS TAXES FOR
          ACTUAL TRAVEL IS HIGHER THAN WHOLE ORIGINAL
          TICKET. IN THIS CASE NO TAX OR FEE REFUND WILL BE
          PERMITTED.
          EXCEPTION-
          THE TICKET PURCHASER IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A REFUND
          OF THE PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE TAX ON UNUSED/
          NONREFUNDABLE OR EXPIRED TICKETS
          THE FOLLOWING TAXES ARE NONREFUNDABLE IN CASE OF
          NONREFUNDABLE FARES - US TAX/ZP TAX
          ----
          FOR NON REFUNDABLE TICKETS THE YQ/YR
          INTERNATIONAL/DOMESTIC SURCHARGE WILL NOT BE
          REFUNDED.
          ----
          THE OPTIONAL PAYMENT CHARGE WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         NOTE -
          WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE.
          --------
          THE FOLLOWING RULES APPLY PER FARE COMPONENT
          /DIRECTION.
          --------
          CHANGES NOT PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION/
          REROUTING/REBOOKING. MCO ISSUANCE NOT PERMITTED.
          PLS REFER TO REFUND SECTION IF APPLICABLE.
          --------
          CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOW. PLS
          REFER TO REFUND SECTION IF APPLICABLE.
HIP exceptions
  THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
  STOPOVERS.
Endorsements
  THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
  NONREF/FL/CHG RESTRICTED - AND - CHECK FARE NOTE - IN THE
  ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Discounts
  ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
        TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
         NOTE -
          FOR CHILDREN TURNING 12 YEARS ENROUTE - ADULT FARE
          HAS TO BE USED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
         FARE.
             TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
         THE FARE.
             TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
         NOTE -
          FOR INFANTS TURNING 2 YEARS ENROUTE - DUE TO
          SAFETY REGULATIONS - A BOOKED SEAT WILL BE
          REQUIRED FOR THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE
          JOURNEY. WHEN A SEPARATE SEAT IS REQUIRED ON A
          PORTION OF THE JOURNEY - CHILD FARE HAS TO BE
          USED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
  OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 75
         PERCENT OF THE FARE.
             TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
         NOTE -
          UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 5 YEARS OF AGE WILL NOT
          BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE. SERVICE CHARGE FOR
          UNACCOMPANIED CHILD APPLIES.
          FOR FURTHER INFO PLEASE CHECK GGAIRLHPT11INFO.
Miscellaneous Fare Tags
         NOTE -
          APPLIES ONLY FOR TRANSPORTATION FROM THE FIRST
          CITY SHOWN - AND RETURN WHERE SHOWN IN CONNECTION
          WITH PUBLISHED ROUND TRIP FARES.
Voluntary changes
  IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
   ANYTIME
     CHANGES EXCEPT RBD NOT PERMITTED TO THE FARE COMPONENT-
     CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
Application
RESTRICTED BUSINESS CLASS FARES FROM
SCANDINAVIA/FINLAND/ESTONIA/LATVIA/LITHUANIA TO AREA 01
 APPLICATION
   AREA
     THESE FARES APPLY
     FROM SCANDINAVIA/FINLAND/ESTONIA/LATVIA/LITHUANIA TO
     AREA 1.
   CLASS OF SERVICE
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
   THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
   ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
   FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
   THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
   AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
   CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
 OTHER CONDITIONS
   MILEAGE UPGRADE PERMITTED FOR BOOKING CLASSES
   B/Y/D/C/J. FOR FURTHER BOOKING CLASSES AND
   CONDITIONS CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

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Old Aug 9, 2014, 4:58 am
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Originally Posted by jeautk01
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