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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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May 28, 2014, 2:11 pm

#1696

penbrook

Join Date: Apr 2010

Posts: 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxtwo

AMS-BNE is €2600 with EK flight numbers only, EK metal. Class O.

And AMS-AKL for 2700 Euros

May 28, 2014, 8:55 pm

#1697

BumpMe!

Join Date: Jul 2002

Posts: 2,069

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook

And AMS-AKL for 2700 Euros

ZQN is in the mix!
Same rough price (€2723) for: AMS-DXB-BKK-SYD-ZQN-SYD-BKK-DXB-AMS

May 29, 2014, 5:42 pm

#1698

WhIteSidE

Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: TUS, SEA, OTP, OMR

Posts: 868

MU (China Eastern) business (I basis)
HKG to DXB with a stopover in PVG or KMG for $704. It's not a great run at 14cpm, but if you need to do the route it's barely more expensive than coach on most carriers.

May 29, 2014, 5:46 pm

#1699

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Mar 2001

Location: AU

Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)

Posts: 14,406

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhIteSidE

not much more expensive than flying HKG-PVG on it's own!

May 30, 2014, 1:51 am

#1700

papyPiHi

Join Date: Nov 2011

Location: LHR

Programs: HH D,CC,SPG,AZ: Gold;BA Silver, TK Elite

Posts: 809

QR ARN-BKK

Hi,

Did a quick search on QR flights, it seems ARN-BKK for the end of November is dirt cheap!

ARN-DOH-BKK in business is only SEK 27000, for 2 passengers (ca GBP 2500)

Sample dates: 18NOV-5DEC
Bookable on QR website

May 30, 2014, 2:30 am

#1701

FlyingOutTLV

Join Date: Mar 2014

Programs: AA EXP, TK Elite, LY Top-Platinum, HGP Diamond, HH Diamond, IHGR Platinum Amb

Posts: 280

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhIteSidE

I can see less than 500$ from BKK to DXB via KMG.
At least on ITA - I did not try to book it.
Seems pretty good...
^

May 30, 2014, 8:36 am

#1702

WhIteSidE

Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: TUS, SEA, OTP, OMR

Posts: 868

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingOutTLV

I can see less than 500$ from BKK to DXB via KMG.
At least on ITA - I did not try to book it.
Seems pretty good...
^

Unfortunately, it appears that KMG doesn't (yet?) have Transit without Visa implemented, so these will require at least a single entry visa.

May 30, 2014, 10:43 am

#1703

DreamTrip

Join Date: Mar 2013

Location: SAN, MIA, GOT

Programs: BA Gold

Posts: 349

Quote:

Originally Posted by papyPiHi

Thats normal price from SWE.
They sometimes run 2-4-1 for 22000SEK (2400EUR) ARN-DOH-BKK.

May 30, 2014, 1:58 pm

#1704

AHO

Join Date: Sep 2001

Location: Sweden

Posts: 2,044

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhIteSidE

Unfortunately, it appears that KMG doesn't (yet?) have Transit without Visa implemented, so these will require at least a single entry visa.

There may be a hope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InKunming

Kunming may launch 72-hour visa-free stay policy in June

So far, Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Chengdu, Dalian, and Chongqing have already launched 72-hour visa-free service. Kunming is expected to launch the same service on June 1 this year.

By then, foreigners will be allowed to stroll about Kunming without visas in 72 hours after their arrivals, which may greatly boost local tourism development and boost exchanges with the world. It is predicted that with the policy , more foreign airlines would like to open international air routes in the city.

http://en.kunming.cn/index/content/2...nt_3536114.htm

May 30, 2014, 5:17 pm

#1705

chocobill

Join Date: Jan 2014

Location: TYO

Programs: AP 75k

Posts: 137

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHO

There may be a hope.

http://en.kunming.cn/index/content/2...nt_3536114.htm

If you leave within 24 hours, you should still be able to do it without a visa.

May 30, 2014, 11:01 pm

#1706

polemi

Join Date: Jul 2006

Programs: BA Gold

Posts: 244

OSL - SYD Approx £2200

Not sure if this is a good price or not (or even if it has been published before) but I'm finding Oslo to Sydney via London/Singapore on BA and BA/Qantas for less than £2200 in Business (J and I). A380 or 777. Example dates Out 30th January - Return 1 March. ITA shows lots of other dates available at around this price. Also possible with return from Bangkok.

May 30, 2014, 11:53 pm

#1707

ben63

Join Date: Mar 2013

Location: VIE, BUD, PRG

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Posts: 332

DXB-TYO r/t 666EUR

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocobill

If you leave within 24 hours, you should still be able to do it without a visa.

what if you have a stop in both of Kumming and Shanghai? It can be a good deal if you don't need the chinese Visa.

Itinerary

Dubai (DXB) to Tokyo (HND) - Sat, Sep 6
China Eastern Airlines Dubai (DXB) to Kunming (KMG) - Sat, Sep 6
China Eastern Airlines 756 Dep: 8:30PM Arr: 7:00AM 6h 30m Airbus A330 Business (I)
Layover in KMG Sun, Sep 7 12h 20m

China Eastern Airlines Kunming (KMG) to Shanghai (SHA) - Sun, Sep 7
China Eastern Airlines 5815 Dep: 7:20PM Arr: 10:15PM 2h 55m Airbus A321 First (F)
Layover in SHA 10h 50m

China Eastern Airlines Shanghai (SHA) to Tokyo (HND) - Mon, Sep 8
China Eastern Airlines 9815 Dep: 9:05AM Arr: 12:30PM 2h 25m Airbus A330 Business (I)
OPERATED BY SHANGHAI AIRLINES CO. LTD.

Tokyo (HND) to Dubai (DXB) - Mon, Sep 22
China Eastern Airlines Tokyo (HND) to Shanghai (SHA) - Mon, Sep 22
China Eastern Airlines 538 Dep: 2:30PM Arr: 4:30PM 3h 0m Airbus A321 Business (I)
Layover in SHA 15h 10m

China Eastern Airlines Shanghai (SHA) to Kunming (KMG) - Tue, Sep 23
China Eastern Airlines 5804 Dep: 7:40AM Arr: 10:55AM 3h 15m Boeing 737 First (F)
Layover in KMG 5h 15m

China Eastern Airlines Kunming (KMG) to Dubai (DXB) - Tue, Sep 23
China Eastern Airlines 755 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 7:00PM 6h 50m Airbus A330 Business (I)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) €666.16
Total cost for 1 passenger €666.16

May 30, 2014, 11:54 pm

#1708

mlqsko

Join Date: Oct 2011

Posts: 3,838

Now this is a mean price.

May 31, 2014, 12:53 am

#1709

travellertales

Join Date: Apr 2009

Location: UK

Posts: 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben63

I think this routing will need a visa as it has multiple stops in China. The 24-hour period is calculated from the scheduled first landing to the scheduled last departure in China. The 72 hour visa waiver rules applicable in some cities requires you to leave China from the airport where you arrived into China. You would therefore need a visa to arrive into China at Shanghai and depart China from Kunming if the first landing and the last departure from China exceed 24 hours.

The above itinerary arrives China at 7am Sunday and departs China 9.05am Monday which exceeds 24 hours.

May 31, 2014, 5:44 am

#1710

FlytheTail

Join Date: Oct 2004

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Posts: 4,553

Montreal to Singapore on LX, P class, from CAD 3,421

Montreal to Singapore on LX, P class, from CAD 3,421 (USD 3,156)

I took advantage of a similar fare last year when the route was introduced and looks like it's back, but must be booked by today (31 May). Available for travel through end of schedule. Long layover in ZRH though. Bookable through LX website. Example:

Montreal (YUL) - Singapore (SIN)
27 December 2014
16:55 YUL 06:20 +1 ZRH
Business - P
LX 87

28 December 2014
22:45 ZRH 18:00 +2 SIN
Business - P
LX 178

Singapore (SIN) - Montreal (YUL)
06 January 2015
23:35 SIN 06:10 +1 ZRH
Business - P
LX 179

07 January 2015
12:50 ZRH 15:15 +1 YUL
Business - P
LX 86

Grand total CAD 3,421.25

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