FL captain arrested in PHF bound for BOS flight this early morning
Jul 15, 2009, 11:10 pm
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FL captain arrested in PHF bound for BOS flight this early morning
Good grief for AirTran captain has been arrested as charge of assaulted & battery with TSA. So he was on their way out of PHF-BOS in the this early morning around 7am in EST time. It was not inappropriate for trying to assaulted with TSA. So here the link:
http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-lo...,3243463.story
Good riddance for AirTran Captain will be eventually fired from the job and it will be disciplinary actions against his job.
http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-lo...,3243463.story
Good riddance for AirTran Captain will be eventually fired from the job and it will be disciplinary actions against his job.
Jul 15, 2009, 11:24 pm
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Sounds very troubling. Things have gone very wrong when the security that is supposed to protect airline employees and travelers turn on them instead.
Isn't it sad when we fear those who are supposted to work for us and protect us?
Your papers please, comrade! If you don't comply to our every whim, we're going to arrest you!!
The start of the U.S.S.A. is at hand.
Isn't it sad when we fear those who are supposted to work for us and protect us?
Your papers please, comrade! If you don't comply to our every whim, we're going to arrest you!!
The start of the U.S.S.A. is at hand.
Jul 15, 2009, 11:37 pm
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I give this Captain ^ ^
It will be interesting to find out what he did and why, but if more people started battering these idiots, perhaps their attitude would change.
It will be interesting to find out what he did and why, but if more people started battering these idiots, perhaps their attitude would change.
Jul 16, 2009, 12:05 am
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Now, I am highly inclined to side with the captain, but at this point there is no info on what supposedly happened.
However, in the news article the police said they were not involved and everybody keeps quiet. Maybe TSA overstepped their boundaries and arrested the pilot on their vigilante crusade?
This said, I wonder if we will have a competition between FAMs and TSA soon if TSA keeps trying to seep into other fields.. Could be fun to have a TSO powertripping inflight and then brought down by an FAM
(in my opinion the far more competent force).
However, in the news article the police said they were not involved and everybody keeps quiet. Maybe TSA overstepped their boundaries and arrested the pilot on their vigilante crusade?
This said, I wonder if we will have a competition between FAMs and TSA soon if TSA keeps trying to seep into other fields.. Could be fun to have a TSO powertripping inflight and then brought down by an FAM
(in my opinion the far more competent force).
Jul 16, 2009, 12:14 am
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Well if I were betting for the winner of a fist-a-cuffs, I would bet on the 6-4 230lb tweenty-two year Marine Corps veteran pilot over any TSA member I have ever seen.
It will be interesting to see what other info comes out. I find it interesting that this brouhaha happened at the checkpoint (or so it seems from the article) yet the pilot was not arrested until he was already in the cockpit.
Are there not always at least some (or one) real cops (LEO) at the checkpoint to deal with problems? Why did they wait for him to walk to the gate and board before arresting? Did it take that long to get stories straight?
I'd like more details.
Ciao,
FH
It will be interesting to see what other info comes out. I find it interesting that this brouhaha happened at the checkpoint (or so it seems from the article) yet the pilot was not arrested until he was already in the cockpit.
Are there not always at least some (or one) real cops (LEO) at the checkpoint to deal with problems? Why did they wait for him to walk to the gate and board before arresting? Did it take that long to get stories straight?
I'd like more details.
Ciao,
FH
Jul 16, 2009, 12:47 am
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In most states that is assault...
While many of us are not a fan of the TSA's overall way of doing business, I don't think many of us would randomly assault a TSO for asking us to do something that is commonly known procedure (please note- I do not condone the procedure or TSA logic of taking off the shoes, but it is a well advertised procedure and other than to bin or not to bin we all know it is coming)
To digress-The only time I have ever had to get testy with a TSAer was not at an airport but during (or "just after") Hurricane Ike, when some TSA tool in civies, but wearing his hat and TSA jacket, tried to tell me I couldn't ford the road to get back to my property. Without using English profanity he was promptly told where he could stick it. I was legally armed, he was not; my property stayed intact.
Ciao,
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Jul 16, 2009, 12:51 am
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Interesting that nobody will admit to arresting him. At some point soon there probably has to be an affidavit file detailig the charges & justification for arresting him.
And no bail hearing?
And no bail hearing?
Jul 16, 2009, 1:16 am
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No, not yet. I haven't hear any person who gotten out of the jails to get his bail or no bail to be set. It's up to the judge to says something for him.
Jul 16, 2009, 1:49 am
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I do not have to hear any more details about what actually happened to know that I side with a 22yr Marine Corp veteran and airline captain over one of TSA's smurfs
One notable exception would be if the Capt was intoxicated, no excuse for trying to fly a planeload of passengers and putting them in danger if he was.
Still, the thought of a smurf being knocked down is most amusing
If it turns out to be anything other than the pilot being intoxicated I would also be inclined to contribute to a defense fund for the Capt^
One notable exception would be if the Capt was intoxicated, no excuse for trying to fly a planeload of passengers and putting them in danger if he was.
Still, the thought of a smurf being knocked down is most amusing
If it turns out to be anything other than the pilot being intoxicated I would also be inclined to contribute to a defense fund for the Capt^
Jul 16, 2009, 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by TSA Spokesmouth in the Daily Press
to protect the safety of our officers ... verbal abuse ... of any kind are not tolerated," according to an e-mailed statement from Lauren Gaches, an agency spokeswoman.
Jul 16, 2009, 9:04 am
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Jul 16, 2009, 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by TSA Spokesmouth in the Daily Press
"to protect the safety of our officers ... verbal abuse ... of any kind are not tolerated," according to an e-mailed statement from Lauren Gaches, an agency spokeswoman.
"to protect the safety of our officers ... verbal abuse ... of any kind are not tolerated," according to an e-mailed statement from Lauren Gaches, an agency spokeswoman.
Jul 16, 2009, 9:46 am
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No, I didn't assaulted with TSA officers but, I physically pushes her at the metal detector. I was arguable with her where I didn't want take off the shoes. Because I am never hidden the shoes explosives at all. So I will be more respectable with TSA is doing their job. That's why I didn't have any capable follow the specific rules.