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Jun 29, 2009, 7:11 am
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This reminds me of an incident in October 2001, where someone wasn't allowed to fly because of the book he was reading (An Edward Abbey novel, Hayduke Lives! about a radical environmentalist who blows things up.)
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/10....godfrey.shtml
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/10....godfrey.shtml
Jun 29, 2009, 7:42 am
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Jun 29, 2009, 8:07 am
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Jun 29, 2009, 11:24 am
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Jun 29, 2009, 11:49 am
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This reminds me of an incident in October 2001, where someone wasn't allowed to fly because of the book he was reading (An Edward Abbey novel, Hayduke Lives! about a radical environmentalist who blows things up.)
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/10....godfrey.shtml
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/10....godfrey.shtml
All this crap can be considered a violation of a "Fundamental Civil Right" under federal jurisprudence and will put the violator in a world of hurt. Cardboard box housing and spouses selling themselves for food type of hurt.
Jun 29, 2009, 11:53 am
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Even though I spent just under a decade working for the Federal Government, I agree with this statement and have taught this principle to my children. The government is not your friend. Never call them or voluntarily get them involved in your affairs. It's going to come back to bite you every time.
Bruce
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Jun 29, 2009, 12:09 pm
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And making any judgement regarding the content is indefensible. What next - certain books or papers are to be banned from airports ? Debt of Honor (Clancy) and Storming Heaven (Brown) probably at the top the list. The Koran is OK though, mustn't offend anyone.
If the screeners keep up these egregious abuses the courts might (finally!) be forced to smack them down. Not before time.
If the screeners keep up these egregious abuses the courts might (finally!) be forced to smack them down. Not before time.
Lets try and be a little realistic folks, you cannot demand that the TSO’s not react as any normal human does.
Jun 29, 2009, 12:15 pm
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Jun 29, 2009, 12:17 pm
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Jun 29, 2009, 12:19 pm
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The problem is that TSO's are not reacting like any normal human.
Most people know to mind their on business and just do their jobs. I don't comment on how a person appears or anything about their possessions.
For TSO's if it's not WEI or a prohibited item then not much needs to be said or commented on.
TSO's are responsible for the hostility many have for your agency. Don't think we want to get chummy with any of you.
Jun 29, 2009, 12:28 pm
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This is clearly overreaching. What would trigger any screeners to feel the urge to browse through literature? It gives the impression that these are well read people who are very studious and engage in creative thinking and writings.
Jun 29, 2009, 12:42 pm
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My first post ever in the TS&S forum was because of the violation I felt when the TSA started asking questions about my journal articles I had with me when I passed through security. They have a lot of math in them, as is the norm for any economics article, and TSA started asking what all that stuff was about.
I am sad to hear that all this time later, TSA and the First Amendment still seem to be at odds.
I am sad to hear that all this time later, TSA and the First Amendment still seem to be at odds.
Jun 29, 2009, 12:48 pm
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My first post ever in the TS&S forum was because of the violation I felt when the TSA started asking questions about my journal articles I had with me when I passed through security. They have a lot of math in them, as is the norm for any economics article, and TSA started asking what all that stuff was about.
I am sad to hear that all this time later, TSA and the First Amendment still seem to be at odds.
I am sad to hear that all this time later, TSA and the First Amendment still seem to be at odds.
Jun 29, 2009, 1:08 pm
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I've had TSOs comment on the books/movies that I had in my bag and it never struck me as a problem. Human nature.
But it would strike me as weird if they started leafing through them.
Mike
But it would strike me as weird if they started leafing through them.
Mike
Jun 29, 2009, 1:33 pm
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I couldn't help but laugh last Thursday afternoon in TPA when the screener doing a bag check on my sons bag opened up both his "Finding Nemo" and "The Wild" dvd cases, pulled out the dvds and lifted them up in the air reflecting light off them as if they were something he had never seen before. So yes it can be wierd but it was also just plain funny to watch, he had a LOT of people staring at him as he held those DVD's up in the air as it was so ridiculous looking.